And this is why my boys aren't potty trained!

@foxyfire33 (10005)
United States
June 8, 2008 11:31am CST
It's not a battle between them and the potty, it's not a battle of wills between them and me....it's a battle of wills between me and everybody else! I hate Pull ups. I have no problem with them for overnight but during the day there is no reason for them. They are just big kid diapers. Anyway,if I put the boys in pants and undies, 'someone' will comment about them not having a pull up on. Yesterday, no one was home so I put them in long shirts with nothing at all underneath. Both went all morning and part of the afternoon without an accident. I was thinking "see, I do know what I'm doing!" But then 'they' came home again...it didn't take long for them to notice the boys were comando under their shirts...and that is just unacceptable so on went the pull ups and shorts. And naturally, neither would use the potty for the rest of the day! S/o won't back me up...everyone complains about them not being potty trained but then this is what they do. I don't have a question and no one will listen to me no matter what I say so advice probably won't really help..I just needed to vent because I am tired of having 3 kids in diapers when two are plenty old enough to use the potty! I guess I'll have to start hiding the pull ups...oh wait I tried that and got nagged every 5 minutes about not having any.
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@kareng (54948)
• United States
8 Jun 08
Have you tried to find some cute and NEAT big boy undies like Spiderman or some other figure/icon they love? I have found that praise is the only way to go on potty training and the others need to zip their mouth if they can't say something good!
8 Jun 08
Kareng, you might have something there!!! Give them something they won't want to mess up. Let them pick out their own underpants....it could work!!
@kareng (54948)
• United States
8 Jun 08
It sounds like the big problem is all the negativity! Good luck with getting the rest of the household to cooperate!
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
8 Jun 08
Yep we tried all that...and the others chimed in with "a don't mess up your new undies because that will ruin them and we'll have to throw them away"...yeah, that helped so basically all the negativity has gotten the one so scared of accidents that he'll hold it until he absolutely can't anymore. The other is new to the potty training thing and just needs to be consistently without pull ups.
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@Trace86 (5030)
• United States
8 Jun 08
What would happen if you stopped buying the pullups? Yes "they" might nag you a bit, but these are your children and "they" have no business trying to tell you how to raise them. If "they" want your kids in pullups, "they" can darn well buy them with their own money! The only time "they" should have any input is if what you are doing is putting the kids in danger. I don't think a wet bum constitutes danger.
@lisado (1227)
• United States
8 Jun 08
I guess you are a lot more patient than me. I am my children's mother and I decide what is best for them. If family doesn't like it they can kiss my backside. I'm not shy about telling them that, either. Of course, my husband backs me up in this respect, which helps a lot. If your S/O won't back you up, it feels like you against the world. You must have done something right if three made it to potty land without other's interferance. I don't like pullups, either. They're expensive diapers. Kids will have accidents as they train, but underwear are washable so no loss. I don't think kids really see pullups as "big kid" anything. Just a marketing ploy. It's a diaper. Period.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
8 Jun 08
"Nagging" does not really cover it and that's the problem. The last time I said no more and hid the pull ups so we'd still have some for night time, there was a lot of stomping and huffing and a few rude comments...and then she bought a pack since she's "the only one that can bother getting these boys what they need"...ugh! I wanted to smack her, we provide everything they need, it was our choice to not allow them pull ups during the day.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
9 Jun 08
The difference was, the older 3 were from my first marriage so these people weren't around and/or didn't want anything to do with them.
@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
9 Jun 08
The sooner you find your dream house the better. Your inlaws are just so umm how do I put it nicely .. sorry can't think of a nice way to put it LOL
@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
9 Jun 08
By the way my son hated pull ups so he would just wear a pair of shorts or underwear. He had a few accidents, but after sometime (and watching his daddy go), he learnt to go to the toilet.
• Canada
8 Jun 08
Foxy the problem isn't with you per say it is with the rest of your family. On the other hand who is the rest of the family that they hold power over you on how you raise your kids or train them to go to the bathroom or anything else for that matter. That would be the day someone tell me how to raise my kids without an invitation to do so. If your kids can walk run and play they can most certainly find there way to a bathroom and do their business. Recently on one of those awareness news stories they were saying in is only children in America that stay in diapers for longer then a year. For me raising my kids I like them trained within a year but if not for sure they would not be reaching their second birthday wearing a diaper. I have no problem with the pull ups at bed time in case of accident but they were taught to wake me up if that were possible. I do realize some kids don't know or can't catch themselves in their deep sleep. Sore subject for me. Get a load of the girl from Sabrina the teenage witch... her son is over three years old and she has a show now on the net about potty training. If you ask me they should have someone who is working on training their kid long before that to do the show.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
9 Jun 08
"who is the rest of the family that they hold power over you on how you raise your kids" There isn't enough time to explain who these people think they are. You know that saying about "too many chiefs, not enough Indians (Native Americans)"? It's like that...only they decide who is allowed to be a chief and we are not allowed to be.
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• Canada
17 Jun 08
Is it time to move? I know sometimes this isn't possible due to the circumstance but gee if you can maybe you should? You are in a really tough spot for sure? Hugs to you!
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
9 Jun 08
Pull-ups were not around for my first 3 children and they trained very easily. With my 4th, pull-ups were the new. I bought a package. I used maybe 2 and gave the rest away.They were in my mind about the most ridiculous way to train a child. Beyond the desire to be a "big" kid, the biggest incentive for a child to run to the bathroom is that they don't like the feeling of being wet. It isn't comfortable for them when they have accidents. Even when they are naked under long shirts, if they don't run to the bathroom, then they still have the pee all over them and have to stop their play and get cleaned up and bathed. It doesn't take them long to get the concept that it is much better to stop for a minute than to stop for 30 mins. Another thing....I bought all my girls cool undies that they picked out themselves. They did not want to soil them and it made them feel so proud to be wearing them. Pull ups are just diapers that go on differently. It prolongs the training. The other's didn't interfere too much in my training of her but getting her away from the bottle was another story! Very similar to what you are going thru.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Jun 08
foxyfire it is your home and your kids so why cannot the rest of your family keep hands off your way of potty training. you so should back you up and the others should just butt out. these kids will learn under your tutledge and keep the rest of the f amily' out of the loop. stand up to your relatives it is your home and your kids.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
9 Jun 08
That's where the whole thing gets sticky...this isn't my home, we live with s/o's parents and they seem to think that means they can control everything. S/o is known to not have his priorities straight and they just plain haven't liked me from the beginning...so they boss us around and control how we raise our kids. I tell s/o it needs to stop, he says they will be worse if we say anything. I tell s/o we need to move out ASAP, he gets annoyed because they have him so convinced that we can't make it on our own.
@terri0824 (4991)
• United States
8 Jun 08
I think pull ups do hinder one being potty trained. And the way you are doing it would be the way I would do it as well. I didn't have any trouble at all with training my oldest daughter. Since she was waking up dry from sleeping and her naps, I started setting her on the potty as soon as she woke up and she was trained by 11 months old. Now I didn't have the same success with my youngest daughter and she was about 3 before she was trained. Oh no, 3 in diapers as much as they cost. I was glad that I never even had two in diapers at the same time.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
9 Jun 08
And rumor has it they are supposed to start costing even more. If the fuel surcharges being snuck into everything aren't bad enough the Dow company is raising something 20% so it's expected that products that use things from them (diapers and laudry detergent being the main items) will also increase 20% (or more). It's getting ridiculous and I can't even save a little by using store brands because the two younger ones have sensitive skin and break out if I use anything besides Huggies and Luvs. I don't know how people train little ones but I have to admit, it would be funny if I secretly got the almost 19 month old trained my way before the older two were trained with everyone else's method.
• United States
8 Jun 08
I hate to tattle tale on my little girl. But, when she was just about two or three years old,when we were potty training her, if I put her in a diaper at all, she refused to use the toilet. She would literally use the diaper, even if she were fully awake. We had to simply forgo potty training pants and Pull ups and diapers of all kinds for the daytime. Otherwise she refused to use the bathroom. They get confused and think they're supposed to go in those Pull ups. I don't know why more people don't see that. Part of learning self control for the bladder is to be able to wear big kid under pants and underwear and regular clothes. And, the sooner the child starts the learning process, the easier it will be. That's what I found with mine. I didn't rush her. But, when she was ready, she let me know, that she didn't want to wear diapers anymore. And, that's when we began. But, it took well over a year to perfect the no-diaper process. You're right about Pull ups, being just big kid diapers. Some women use them for their kids, cause they're afraid of getting pee on the carpet. But, we have stone tile floors, so it wasn't an issue for us. You're doing the right thing. That technique worked for me, too. Now, mine is 100% potty trained for both day and night. My secret for night time potty training was to cut out the bottle at an early age. And, also cut out liquids within one hour of bedtime. And, if needed, then only one sip of water. And, mine goes to the bathroom at least twice before bedtime. Hope those tips help. You are doing a super job on your own. Please don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. Trust your own best judgement.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
9 Jun 08
I trust my judgement and it worked just fine for my 3 older kids. It's everybody else that will not trust my judgement and feels the need to butt in. They are both capable of going potty...but they don't see a need to when everyone else keeps putting them in Pull ups.
@guss2000 (2232)
• United States
23 Jun 08
I really hate it when people interfere with how YOU want to raise your kid-- or something. I think having only a long shirt on for potty training is completely acceptable. The children have to learn sometime and it sounds like you are doing a great job. tell everyone to leave you alone :)
• United States
9 Jun 08
It does sound like negativity and mixed messages are really not helping. I don't understand how everyone thinks pull ups are the way to go (I am 24 and was potty trained with out them and as my son is getting ready to be potty trained I think they are ridiculous, not to mention terrible to change should one poop in them). People are so stupid, how many were potty trained before pull ups? EVERYONE! ERRR...angry with you!
@ellie333 (21016)
8 Jun 08
I would personally make a stand and do it the way you want no matter how much others nag and moan at you. All these special pull up and extra dry type nappies just encourage children to be lazy and not use the potty or the toilet whereas the old ones that got them wet would make them uncomfortable so more likely to want to be out of them early. Clever marketing ploy by nappy manufacturers to sell more eh! If you can put up with the nagging perserve and you will probably find after two weeks you may only have one of the three in nappies or maybe none at all. Ellie :D
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
9 Jun 08
LOL...if I could get the almost 19 month old trained in two weeks too and be done with diapers for good...wow, I wouldn't know what to do with myself! It's not even just the nagging, they will just go against me and put the pull ups on themselves. Today I tried again with the bare bottom approach with the older one and he was threatened with a spanking if he didn't get his pants on...yes I was furious but s/o says to just go along because "if we make a big deal about it things will be even worse". Ugh!
@cjgrooms (4456)
• United States
8 Jun 08
Are these YOUR children? Until you stand up and tell everybody else that you have heard enough of their opinions and have wasted all the money on pull-ups that you plan to. you will be going to the school and changing their pull-ups when they are in first grade. I know you don't want advice but this can't be good for your children! Potty training is a significant building block to learning other things.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
9 Jun 08
The whole living arrangement isn't good for them but I can't seem to get anyone else to see that. "changing their pull-ups when they are in first grade" You are a lot closer with that statement than you may realize...the older of the two will be starting kindergarten in a few months.
8 Jun 08
Foxy You are right!! I mothered three boys. Been there, done that. I figure if they're old enough to walk they're old enough to find the bathroom. Let them go naked under their shirts every time you can. And, make them clean up any mess they make---they'll learn. You might have to ignore (or beat up) the rest of the family. All the best , and it really DOES work.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
8 Jun 08
Believe me, I would love to ignore (or beat up) the rest of the family! What really gets me is that I have already successfully potty trained 3 children so you'd think they realize I know what I'm doing! Maybe their methods worked with their kids but it's obviously not working with mine and I'm not comfortable with using some of their methods.
@jczvrse (169)
• United States
9 Jun 08
You are so very right... you are mom you do what you need to do to potty your kids, I agree pull ups are just pull down diapers an added expense you don't need, they didn't have pull ups back in the day how did they potty trin kids ...commandoooo. or just undies nothing wrong with that. My grandson is two and he runs around all in nothing we go to the store he wears undies if he has an accident then oh well we clean up and move on. I find that if you put diapers on them they tend to go in diapers and don't bother to use the potty I mean why should they they have a diaper on yes even a pull up is a diaper. Kids dont like to feel wet so when they have undies or nothing they learn to use the potty sooner. You just do what you think is right and what works for you ...
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
9 Jun 08
I agree with the people who stated maybe your best bet would be to get them some boy underwear like with Spiderman, etc. on them to where they feel like Big boys to where they will want to use the Big boy restroom instead of having an accident. I know many people who have done this and have had huge success from doing that. It may not always work at first, but your boys will get the idea, and want to use the restroom instead. Personally, I feel that continuing to use Pullups and stuff like that only encourages them to not want to be potty trained, so if you try the other way I think it would be the way to go. Wishing you the best.
@avonrep1 (1862)
• United States
9 Jun 08
The thing that I learned about potty training is that it has to be their acomplishment and not ours. I agree not using pull ups during the day. Tell people to mind their business, but also be prepared to do alot of laundry. They will get tired of feeling wet and start wanting to go on their own. Good luck and keep doing what you are doing, that is all we can do.
@subha12 (18441)
• India
9 Jun 08
i think you just stop buying pullups. make then understand taht they should be potty trained. reward them if they do not have any accidents? by the way, how old are they now?
@msfreeze (89)
• United States
9 Jun 08
i know how frustrating potty training is and you are right pull ups are just big kid diapers my daughter is two and i did the whole pull up thing and she never once went potty i just stopped buying the pull ups kept her in panties all day and now she is almost completely trained. dont worry about what other people say they are your boys and you know whats best for them :)
@ruby222 (4847)
9 Jun 08
I reckon that potty training is a hard thing to do,especially as boys seem lazier than girls.My grandson has only just cottoned on to it all,and this weeks visit has been the first ever that he has used the toilet.He came with no pull up on and went and used the toilet...a big step for him...my daughter has been trying hard with him for ages..but he just couldnt seem to get the hang of it.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
9 Jun 08
I'm sorry, I don't think you want advise so I won't offer any, and honestly I don't have any. My 3 boys just one day decided to do it on their own I guess. I didn't use pull-up or anything like that so I don't know how that goes. But, I can say best of luck and I hope it really starts going the way that you want it to!!!