My Younger Daughter Texted A Minute Ago To Say Her Friends Cat Has Had Kittens..

@ellie333 (21018)
June 14, 2008 7:44am CST
Max's cat has just had kittens and he said that you could have first choice from the litter...was the text. What this actually means is mum oh please please please can we get a kitten! I have two cats already but they are excellent with all others so that would not be a problem at all and it would be giving an animal a good home as only last week I was at the RSPCA looking at a pair of older cas that need homing. Do I really want to have to train a kitten to use the litter tray, stratching and keeping in whilst the older too have free reign in and out usually. She will be here soon and I just know she is going to look at me with that look of oh pleeeeeeeese. Have you ever given in to these pleas and let them have a pet of any sort or have you stood firm and said NO enough pets already? Ellie:D
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@raydene (9874)
• United States
14 Jun 08
Hi Sweets Yes you would be giving a home to a kitty or would you be encouraging them to allow this Mommy cat to have another litter? I think if I accepted a kitten I would ask what their plans are about fixing the unexpected kittens problem. My neighbor 3 houses down has about 20+ cats that just keep having kittens. I asked her if she might be considering getting them spayed or neutered and she said " Oh no I never have a proble getting homes" True we neighbors find homes for the poor things but we are all tiring of this game! I feel sorry for these poor Mama cats! Honey, I don't mean to offend or hurt your feelings and hope I haven't..I just wondered if you and other kind people that open your door to new kitties are helping that circle of bringing more kittens into the world when the pounds are killing the leftovers? xoxoxoxoxoxo
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@ellie333 (21018)
14 Jun 08
Oh no Raydene you haven't offended me at all over this one as I completely understand what you are saying here and remember the cat/kitten issue discussion re your neighbours. I was considering rehoming two older ones from the RSPCA but as I have no catflap they don't allow, crazy really as mine have an open window larger than a catflap that they use all the time instead. Red tape rules. I think my other two would be more accepting of a kitten but they are very sociable cats to all animals anyway. My two are both neutured and are up to date with vaccinations etc so it would be a good home. I will suggest to my daughter for her to mention to her friend about having the cat speyed now. Its not the homes factor really is it is is the poor mummy cats like you say which in your neighbours instance was almost kittens having kittens and then it affects their health bless too. I will take all you have said into consideration though Raydene. Thanks for your input. Ellie :D
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@ellie333 (21018)
14 Jun 08
Hi Scoop. I would rather home an older cat from the RSPCA than get a kitten but as I don't have a catflap they don't allow, crazy. The decision has been made not to get one anyway if fact by my older daughter. They had a sister disagreement in that she told my younger one I've told mum that she has enough pets and let someone else home it instead. Let mum just have a look, no cos if she goes over she'll come back with one that type of arguement. Kitten free home still LOL. Ellie :D
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@Gollywog (1092)
14 Jun 08
Whats another mouth to feed and another four paws running amuck? Yea ellie let her have a kittycat! I love them when they are so tiny they cuddle up around your neck and suck your earlobe.lol I had a lovely cat a few years ago but it got killed on the main road, she just liked to cross over to the fields. That put me off of having cats ever since. Go for it?
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@ellie333 (21018)
14 Jun 08
Its not just the mouth to feed though is it as they need vaccinations and boosters they need to be neutered and unlike you with your sad loss when one of mine was runover he broke his leg and had to have tail amputated so that was an extremely high vet bill too. Sotty about your loss though I have had this happen in the past and know how upsetting it is but I now live in a very rural area so I haven't too much worry on that one now. Ellie :D
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@Gollywog (1092)
14 Jun 08
You are so right about the cost of the vet? That is one of the reasons there are so many cats looking for homes? My dog hurt her leg and was limping so I took her to the vet. She said it was a sprain after running so she massaged it and gave me 4 pain killers and it cost me £46 well I know for the next time, I will massage it myself.
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@shooie (4985)
• United States
17 Jun 08
Yes all the cat shots and things. Unless you really really want the added expense I would hold firm. She won't be happy at first but they get over it.
@ellie333 (21018)
17 Jun 08
She hasn't mentioned it since so I am sure you will get over it very quickly and I will stand firm on this one. Ellie :D
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@fifileigh (3619)
• United States
16 Jun 08
i dont think u need to train a kitten. i have never trained my cats to use the litter box. they seem to know how to use it on their own. i just pour the litter inside the box and show it to them so that they know where it is, and they just step inside and do their thing...they even know to cover their poop up on their own. i remember 30 years ago, i went to an aunt's house, and her daughters were morons and not toilet trained until junior high. but they adopted a cat, and the cat used to go straight to the bathroom sink and go to the bathroom because they didnt put a litter box for it. i guess their cat was an outdoor cat. my aunt was shocked that the cat knew how to use the bathroom better than her moron daughters. we used to joke around that the cat was smarter...
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@ellie333 (21018)
16 Jun 08
Hi I have said no to the kitten now though anyway but I agree usually once you have shown them they know immediately usually. Your cousins certainly were tained late I agree. Ellie :D
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• United States
16 Jun 08
you write that time was spent at RSPCA .. hmmm I would think you know all about the over population of animals .. might be a cool idea to tell the daughter that there was no need for this cat to have kittens and what might be best for her and her friend .. instead of spending money on a new kitten .. shots worming etc neutering or spaying .. you might donate the money to this silly friend whose cat had kittens and have the mom cat fixed .. what a thrill that would be to the mom cat . no more kittens .. it might teach the two young teens a thing or two about responsibility towards animals and their care .. love those animals .. care for them .. teach the kids .. do you know how many cats those kittens are going to make in their lifetime if they are not fixed .. yikes .. too too many cats and dogs in america ... far too many ..
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@ellie333 (21018)
16 Jun 08
Hi yes I have explained all of this and have said no to the kitten as I have too many pets at home anywyay, I can't home them all. My own cats that I have have both been neutured and have their vaccinations up to date but yes there is the expense for an extra if I had of decided yes too. People should have theirs done too but no I will not donate to this family for them to get cat done as I am sure they will now it has had this litter. Ellie :D
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• United States
15 Jun 08
I had to tell my kid NO recently. :-( With any new cats, I usually keep them in the bathroom with a litterbox until they've definitely used it, then I will move them to one of the other rooms with a litter box, until they've used it, and once I see that they've repeatedly used the litterbox over and over again, then I give them full reign of the house. It's generally NOT too difficult. Unless of course you have the issue like what I mentioned in another one of my responses, where I had a kitty with a bladder problem. :-(
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@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
Hi yes I noticed that within Tessahs post and I am sorry to hear that you lost them, very sad. I have now said no as I think the two that I have are enough for me at the moment and she is now asking her dad if she can have one at his house instead. I hope you manage to track the stuff Tessah was saying about to clear.Ellie :D
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@luvstochat (6914)
• United States
14 Jun 08
My kids wanted a pet desperately so I finally gave in and went to the humane shelter and we ended up bringig home two kittens they are sisters. It is not hard to train them to use the litter box usually one time after putting them in it they get it. The thing my kitties do that annoys me is they chase each other in the middle of the night and keep you awake.
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@ellie333 (21018)
14 Jun 08
Oh you saying about them chasing each other in the middle of the night reminds me of one of my cats the other night. It was so hot I had my bedroom window open and I got the fright of my life when I was woken by a thud on the floor at the bottom of my bed. It was my cat jumping in through the window. They can only can in and out into the litchen at night usually so my heart was racing. It is lovely that you have homed two kittens though. No cats are clean and easy to train it all the vaccinations and getting them neutered that costs as well. I will think about it for a while, they are only just born. Ellie :D
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@kaleegirl45 (1515)
• United States
10 Jul 08
thank you for the best responds. Hope your kitties are doing good.
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@ellie333 (21018)
10 Jul 08
Hi Kalee, No I didn't give in even though you and my daughter try to persuade me otherwise so we still have just the two older cats, no kitties LOL. Ellie :D
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• United States
10 Jul 08
Hi ellie, Well, guess what, I started feed this one cat, she had her babies and now we have 3 more. Funny, how you didn't get anymore cats, but I wind up get 3 more. You sure you didn't send them my way? lol
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@ellie333 (21018)
10 Jul 08
Meoooooooooow, no honest I didn't. Oh how lovely of you. I am sure they are all keeoping you very busy. Enjoy, they grow so quick bless. Ellie :D
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@mummymo (23707)
14 Jun 08
Well we have one cat and for us that is enough at the moment. We have had the pleas for more pets quite often but have always refused! I think it is a case of whether or not you have the time and patience to look after all the pets you have. So what was your answer? Did you give in? I bet you did! lol xxxx
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@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
Hi Mummymo, I was good I said no and her older sister said no too, mum you have enough pets already type thing, she is working on her dad now to have one at his house LOL and she will work on me again once her sister moves to Cambridge next week but I am the one that will end up footing the vet bills for neutering etc so not a good idea really at all. Ellie :D
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@mummymo (23707)
16 Jun 08
I can see the pleading eyes and the promises of looking after and being responsible ensuing ellie! Good Luck with staying constant with the no lol - so how long til you give in do you think? lol xxx
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@ellie333 (21018)
16 Jun 08
LOL I will give it until at least next week once her big sister is out of the way ha ha. I will try my best to stand firm though but you have seen those eyes and yes she will play on it bless. Ellie :D
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@kaleegirl45 (1515)
• United States
15 Jun 08
I'm the one, who is always asking to have another kitten. I have 3 of my own, my mother has one and a dog. Now the neighborhood cat is coming over so that I can feed her. Which I do. poor thing she is so skinny. I already said when my cats die I don't want to have anymore pets. It hurt too much to lose one of them. When it comes to the cat litter, once you put the kitten inside the box, he/she will go back when they need to. It's very easy to train a cat on how to use the litter box. If my daugter came and asked me if we can get a kitten, I know I would have to say yes. It think it be easier to get a baby than an older cat. Did you find your older cats? How did they react to the others?
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@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
Hi no it was my daughter that bought the other cats as kittens out of her own money after asking me of course but it was a while ago now. I have said no to the kitten and she is going to ask her dad if she can have one there instead. I also have rabbits and guinea pigs, one of the rabbits is hers but it is always me cleaning them. I was very tempted though cos one of the kittens is a grey tabby and I have never had a grey cat and have always wanted one. My cats are fine with other cats which is a good thing but maybe not another one in their home. Ellie :D
• United States
15 Jun 08
My two cats are both black, peewee is white with brown and black. Frosty use to be orange and white. Let her get the kitty, and if you do let her, what will the kitty's name be?
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@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
Haha Now you are trying to persuade me also. I will not name as this will make me get. LOL. Ellie:D
@tessah (6621)
• United States
15 Jun 08
in comparison in training difficulties.. id take a kitten over a puppy anyday. ive had scads of kittens and cats in my life and ive never had to train a single one of them in anything.. ever. soon as id put the litter pan down.. id take te kitten and put tem in it one time so they knew whgere it was.. never had to do it again and didnt have any "accidents". the only time it became a problem is if the person in charge of keeping it clean.. didnt. and theyd find someplace else to go that was. and id have to curb their behavior a little bit and make sure it was kept clean all the time, and the behavior stopped within a week or so. the getting of pets has always been ultimately up to me as im the one who mainly tends to them, so there hasnt ever been any whining or plzzzzzzzzzzzz can iiiiiii???!?! incidents as of yet. atm we have three cats and a dog.. there was a request of a bird, and ive been thinking about it.. but she never gives me a begging fest with anything.
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• United States
15 Jun 08
I'd always been a cat person too, and like you I've never really had any problems with litter training. But one of my cats ended up getting chronic bladder infections and couldn't make it to the litter box. We started putting litter boxes in different places around the house (as well as taking him to the vet to get treated). Sadly, after several weeks of medications, and even a hospitalization, he did not make it. Very sad day. However, because of his situation, he succeeded in "marking up" certain areas in my house. I have done everything I know how to do to clean up those areas. I've ripped out the carpet padding, I've shampooed, I've used all the suggested chemicals. It does NOT smell like cat urine. yet the other cats are like "oh, okay, THIS must be the bathroom". UGH.
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@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
I have said no to the kitten though as I have enough animals at the moment and the two cats I have are great and get along really well and they may not with a new kitten even though they are good with other cats. She is going to ask her dad instead to have one at his house for her. A bird with cats is not a good mix even if it is caged, mind you Tweety Pie always managed to get away from Sylvester. Ellie :D
• United States
15 Jun 08
Well...I think that it would be great for your daughter to have her own cat. When I was about 14 my family had 6 cats and 4 dogs. But these animals weren't really "mine"..they were my moms. So I didn't really hold any responsibilty from them. But I found a stray cat that wasvery sick, starving (EXTREMELY thin) and her hair was very choppy. I kept the cat, nursed her back to health and now she a beautiful, healthy pure white persian. My parents let me keep her, and she became my first ver own pet. I've learned responsibilty from getting my own pet, and I think your daughter could too. Does your family see your current animals as just yours, like our situation? Or does everyone help with their responsibilities. I think if you want your daughter to become more responsible you should let her have her own cat. But I kind of think that maybe a cat from a shelter would be better. Because, I'm just guessing, that her friends mom is going to be finding homes for all the kittens or keeping them, right? They aren't in danger of going to the pound are they? Maybe in the long run it would be more fulfilling for your daughter if you took her to your local animal shelter and let her save a kitten or cat there. Just a personal suggestion! :)
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@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
Hi LilyogtheThorns, I really appreciate your thoughts and suggestions. I have said no to the kitten. Wilfred and Sybil are both my daughters cats already and one of the rabbits. The guinea pig and other rabbit is my sons. He is the only one that helps me with any of the animals and he is four bless. My daughter will fuss them but if I say the hutch needs cleaning she will suddenly need to go out somewhere so really for this reason I have said no as it will be me doing everything, but I would rather a rescue cat. Ellie :D
• United States
16 Jun 08
Yeah I would always want rescued cats too :) It feels good saving a life that actually needs saved. I don't know why I've been so good at taking care of the cat I found. Maybe it's because I felt closer to her than any of our prveious animals because I am the one who saved her, and I am the one who got her healthy again. And she knows it too :) You can defeniatly tell she has a closer bond with me than the rest of my family. But honestly I can't say for certain your daughter would help out anymore with a new one, because she probably won't have to care for a sick animal and create a bond with it like me. But since she alreay has her own cat, if responsibility for it hasn't already come, maybe she isn't ready for another.
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@checapricorn (16065)
• United States
14 Jun 08
Hello ellie, I have not tried saying No to anyone who will ask me to take care the pets..LOL, But, maybe if I have plenty already, I will learn to say that since I also don't want to be unfair to the pets like compromising their food or needs for accepting more and more!LOL!
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@ellie333 (21018)
14 Jun 08
It has been decided no now anyway as it can all be too much and it is me at the end of the day that looks after them, but she will work on me more once her sister goes back to her house, but to be realistic I should say no and mean no eh! Ellie :D
• United States
14 Jun 08
Correct, might not be good to accept and it will just turn out to be a burden. Anyway, I hope she will be able to find a friend who will adopt it!LOL!
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• United States
15 Jun 08
Sure I've most certainly given into those kinds of requests. Not always for a kitten, but for just about everything under the sun. I am sure that my daughter will want to adopt another kitten if the outdoor mama cat has any more babies that she brings to our house. Sometimes she will have her babies on our door step and hide them under the bushes in the front yard by the house where they won't get rained on. And, they come out and peer at us standing at the front door. They're adorable!
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@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
I didn't give in on this one even though kittens are adorable, I said no so she is going to ask her dad if she can have one there instead. It sounds like yes eventualy you will end up with a kitten indoors. LOL. Ellie :D
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@carolscash (9500)
• United States
15 Jun 08
Yes, I have given in to those pleas and we now have a pure black cat that I absolutely can't stand. This cat bites,scratches, climbs on everything_ stove,sink,table,etc. I really would like to find someone to take it but my daughter would have a fit as she loves the stupid thing. She can't do much with him because he won't let you touch him. I guess I am stuck with the cat,so I don't think that I would do anything with taking another cat in unless you really want it.
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@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
Oh this cat doesn't sound like the sort of pet I would want either, at least with the ones I have got I know that they are loving and friendly. I have now said no to the kitten. Ellie :D
• United States
15 Jun 08
No pets for us, I have a monkey (8 year old boy) and a pig (5 year old girl), the zoo is complete.
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@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
Oh I have a monkey too LOL, my son is four! Ellie :D
• China
15 Jun 08
i really appreciate your love for the animal and i also very like cat.
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@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
Thank you yes I do love animals but I have told her no for the kitten as I have too many here at the moment. Ellie :D
@Samanthavv (1383)
• United States
15 Jun 08
Wow. It's cool that the cat had kittens, but if you don't want to get a kitten then tell your daughter that you just don't want to take on the responsibility of a kitten right now. Explain to her that it's a lot of work and you have enough on your plate as it is.
@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
Hi I have said no now and she is working on her dad for him to get one at his house instead, he'll probably say no too. Ellie :D
@raydene (9874)
• United States
15 Jun 08
Doll I forgot to mention that the white cat is my own Athenia that was rescued under a shed just prior to a shotgun blast. She clawed the living Hel! out of me but is sweet now. I didn't notice until I came back to be sure I had not hurt you in any way. Love to you and yours always
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@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
Hi Raydene, Athenia is a lovely name and good for you for rescuing and making her feel safe again. My two are called Sybil and Wilfred, my children named them. I have said no now to this kitten and as a consolation have changed avatar to my younger daughter for a few days LOL. She is working on her dad now to let her have one at his house for her. Ellie :D
@TessWhite (3147)
• United States
15 Jun 08
Well Ellie, your last sentence I can answer. No I can't say no. :P My son used to rescue cats and bring them home. When he got married he picked a wife who was allergic to cats. Now, fast forward a few years to now. I currently have eight, yep I really did say eight, cats. As well as two chihuahuas and a german shepherd. We have enough fur floating around on a daily basis to build cat number nine. I never intended to get this far. I thought five was bad enough. But, kittens kept showing up on my doorstep and here in my city shelters are full. So you either feed them or they are picked up and put down. So really, if you only have two.............lol go for it.
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@ellie333 (21018)
15 Jun 08
Oh wow you have quite a managerie there don't you. I have in fact said no with help from my eldest saying we have enough already mum but if they do have real problems homing I may cave in later. The most I have ever had at one time was four. Thanks for sharing. The ninth cat made me giggle. Ellie :D