Dinosaurs were created for what?
By clowdine
@clowdine (1402)
Philippines
June 15, 2008 12:24pm CST
I have an idea in mind why, but I wish to know if you have the same thinking about this. Why did God create Dinosaurs and let them die later to be millions and millions of years apart from mankind?
The point of letting them die is obvious, we can't have them as neighbors, coexistence is not possible. What about letting them live first? Why were they created in the first place?
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@dodoguy (1292)
• Australia
15 Jun 08
Hi clowdine,
I don't actually believe that all the dinosaurs and so forth were stomping around the place millions of years ago. I don't claim to know better, although I have my own opinions - I just don't accept all the speculation which the paleontologists trumpet as historical "fact". It's like someone telling a bedside story, making it up as he goes along, and then convincing himself that it's actually all true. I don't believe that it is.
From my reading on the subject, there seems to be an awful lot of self-reinforcing assumptions put forward by the scientific community. I'm not convinced of the veracity of any of the dating methods which are in common use. As I understand the matter, carbon dating (for example) hinges on an assumption that the Earth's atmospheric and solar characteristics have been constant for whatever period is being considered. In my books, that's a mighty big assumption to make.
Anyway, from where I stand, it seems to me that the dinosaurs and all the other critters that have been dug up as fossils were likely here just a few thousand years ago, sometime before the Deluge. And the Deluge, of which stories exist in every culture across the globe, would have been enough to wipe them all out.
No point trying to persuade anyone to my particular world view - so if anyone doesn't like it, there's really no need to have a cow.
But another matter that intrigues me is the widespread tradition of dragons in many cultures around the world. And a bunch of other stuff, for example, the visions of Earth's history related by various mystics down through the ages. They speak of other things too, like giants, for example.
One thing's for sure - there's no way the Earth as it now exists would be able to sustain the gargantuan bulk of the dinosaurs that used to exist. Not after the Deluge, and especially not now that humanity has mostly poisoned, raped and generally destroyed the planet's natural abundance.
So I disagree with an assertion that coexistence with dinosaurs was not possible - I suspect that humanity did indeed exist at the same time as the dinosaurs. That idea conflicts massively with contemporary notions of the world's history, but to be honest, what's taught as world history really strikes me as a lot of convenient propaganda, tailored to tell everyone what the people in charge want us to believe, rather than what might have actually happened (which they probably don't actually know anyway).
Just to cast a spanner into the proverbial works, by way of illustration, what are they STILL teaching all the kiddies in schools and universities? The "Big Bang Theory" (which they teach as FACT, when it's anything BUT fact) has been disproven already, right along with the "Red Shift Theory", but they keep right on teaching it all as though it were established fact.
And the Sun? They tell you that the stars and the Sun are big fluffy balls of plasma, and that they're big nuclear furnaces. But the Sun is solid - a big, black, presumably hairless ball, a million times bigger than Earth, and we have the photos to prove it. And we still have no clue what it is or how it works.
This is apparently how mainstream science works - establish a paradigm, and stick to it no matter what - even ignore contrary evidence, in order to maintain the status quo, and to keep all the vested interests happy (and we can be quite sure that there are HEAPS of academic egoes, university reputations and big-money vested interests involved in all these things).
Anyway, suffice to say that I don't personally accept the popular story about how all the dinosaurs got whacked by an asteroid millions of years ago. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything - but no-one has to accept any particular story if they don't choose to. And I don't.
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@clowdine (1402)
• Philippines
16 Jun 08
As previous elementary pupils and students in higher levels in some degree, we were made to believe that science tells the exact truth but I guess that was just for the sake of promoting scientific studies to youngsters because science in some cases, could only be a continuous search for the truth and not necessarily the seat of the ultimate truth itself. Remember, humans thought centuries ago that the earth was flat and then later on, it was rather round. Science has something to do with that. What might have been true in the past may not be true in the future with the continuous scientific intervention. Other medicines before are no longer allowed to use now.
But going back to our topic, scientists keep digging and finding fossilite remains of these huge creatures but granting that dinosaurs were just a myth that you would believe for just a second, why do you think they had to exist and then die later to be dug by humans millions of years after? What's in it for us?
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@dodoguy (1292)
• Australia
16 Jun 08
Hi again,
I do not believe that the dinosaurs became extinct millions of years ago, as is taught to True Believers in the Temple of Evolution.
I personally entertain the possibility that they were wiped out in the Great Flood which took place not that long ago.
In which case, if the Biblically alleged metaphysical causes behind the Deluge are to be accorded relevance, the human wickedness which precipitated the flood is likewise responsible for the consequences of the flood. Which means that humanity is responsible for the destruction of the dinosaurs, along with everything else which was destroyed by the Great Flood.
Thus, IMO it's not a case of the dinosaurs being removed for humanity's benefit - they are circumstantial victims of the consequences of human disobedience to God's will. They happened to be in the wrong place (Earth) at the wrong time (when God decided to clean the world of human evil and start over).
Now, if you really want to trawl for some philosophical benefit from the discovery of dinosaur fossils, then I'd simply suggest this - if species as large and robust as the dinosaurs can be completely wiped off the face of the planet, then who is to say the same fate or worse might not also await humanity?
An allied but faith-based observation would be - if God decided to destroy everything on the face of the planet due to His displeasure with the corruption and depravity of humanity before the Deluge, and He did a very thorough job of it as the fossils now being found will attest, then how much worse a fate must await the world with humanity once again sinking to ever lower depths of wickedness with every passing year? How much more severe will God be the next time He decides to punish humanity and wipe the Earth clean once more?
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@clowdine (1402)
• Philippines
17 Jun 08
Since I'm not a paleontologist and my course is not related to science, I am just a passive learner from what our college professors (who base their teachings on books and other established materials)taught; from the television programs like the national geographic specials that I ocassionally watch; and other informative items like magazines and newspapers and direct book reading or online reading. But as I mentioned before, they are the works based on scientific studies and may not necessarily the absolute truth. I don't believe them with all my heart anyway.
So, if the carbon dating thing which the scientists use all the time has not been reliable all along, then, we are lost in terms of the ages of dinosaurs and their extinction. I appreciate that you believe about the deluge which is a Biblical fact. I'm not closing my doors to the possibility that dinosaurs might have existed along with humans during the time before the universal deluge. But I am yet to research if the Bible has verses that strengthens it. What I can only read for now is that he created huge lizards too.
By the way, the Bible states there will be no second deluge by water. The earth will be destroyed by fervent heat.
Genesis 9:15
And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
2Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
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@siddharthlife (462)
• India
15 Jun 08
You are making several assumptions in your topic here, which I do not agree with, and hence my reasons may not be the ones that you are looking for, but I still think you would find some sense in them!
Well, to start off with, you believe that God created the dinosaurs, whereas I, like a good science student, believe in evolution! This means that as competition grew, the reptiles grew in size, but there were many disadvantages of big size too - so they ultimately perished.
Now coming to your argument that why did God create them in the first place, I think you are here believing that God wanted to create human beings - that was his ultimate aim. I would contend that. May be God now wants a different Super Human species, who will be talking about how humans were created a million years ago and wonder why God made them! Animals are in no way, inferior to humans - it is only our ego that makes us think in that way. Certainly all life has a right to share earth, and if there is a culprit that spoils the perfect harmony of nature around, then I am afraid I have to speak the truth - and the truth is that this culprit is Man. So if you actually believe in God, then it is reasonable to assume that he wanted all life on earth except humans! We are the only odd ones - a sore thumb in the otherwise perfect - absolutely perfect mother earth.

@siddharthlife (462)
• India
16 Jun 08
Thank you very much for your reply. I was happy to see that you take care to respond to the people who have responded to your topic!
Now coming back to the point, first you are asking a question - "What is there in it for us?" Well, I ask, why should there be something in it for us anyway?
But playing along, I will tell you what was there in it for us -
You understand that a very small change in the past can have huge effects on the future as it magnifies over time. Did you know that if it was possible that you interfere a very tiny bit in the distant past, then the entire course of human history would have been different.
Now you are talking about dinosaurs - which are too old. And any small change in the system there would have caused a huge change really in the current state of affairs. Like if there were no dinosaurs, then there would be species still alive that are very dangerous to our very existence, and perhaps we would not even be able to survive till now. So God had a purpose for them - to make conditions on earth suitable for Us so that we may survive.
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@clowdine (1402)
• Philippines
17 Jun 08
Truly the Creator must have a reason for His creations and their timelines. Whether we are aware of those or not, for sure, they are for our own good. It explains why man was the last creation before he rested on the 7th day. He made sure that He prepared everything for him first. He created a home, food, and a habitat from the first to the 6th day before he created the most important of all, the man who was created later on the 6th day after the rest of the beasts)who will need all those previously created ones.
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@clowdine (1402)
• Philippines
16 Jun 08
Sorry, just to give you a premise, I don't presume anything. As a Christian. I have a basis. That's the Bible. It's stated there that God created animals, big and small, on the
5th and 6th day of creation (Genesis 1:21-25). And God regards human important because He creted him according to His own image and commanded him to have dominion over the animals (Genesis 1:26-28). And if you don't believe that, that's okay. But I guess the question was not answered, my friend. Why did dinosaurs had to exist just to die later? What's in it for us?
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