Do nice guys really finish last?

United States
June 22, 2008 12:17pm CST
I just read an article on Yahoo that said that the nice guy seems weak to women and boring so that is why she goes for the cocky guy that seems uninterested.That the nice guy is already giving everything while she hasn't given anything. In a nutshell it is what Thomas Paine wrote," What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly." For me,I prefer a guy who is neigher too nice or too cocky.A guy who would do what he can for me When I ask.Not a guy who seems like he isn't interested or Too interested. He knows his limitations.So ladies , do nice guys really finish last in your eyes.
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• China
23 Jun 08
Good post. though i am a man ,i'm also interested in this topic because i want to know what type women like most. from a view of a man ,i think good looking is not a disadvantage. but usually the handsome men are not brave enough, Because of their faces, they were treated carefully as a girl,i mean in the normal sense.not all the time. but if there are two man who are both capable, kind, i think most women will choose the nice-looking guys.
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• United States
23 Jun 08
Telly Savalas - Actor Telly Savalas
True we all are attracted to beauty at first but a good person who is kind, considerate is better than a guy who is just good looking.There are many guys who aren't pretty like Brad Pitt but they know how to treat a woman.Or they have "it", that star quality . Whenever they walk into a room, everyone just stops. He may not be the best looking guy but he has "it".Telly Savalas had "it"And he wasn't a great looking guy.So looks aren't the only thing.
• United States
23 Jun 08
I am an American and I think Brad Pitt is one of the best looking men on the planet. And unlike some handsome men he is smart, considerate , and caring. One thing that makes him more attractive is his love for Angelina and their children.
• China
23 Jun 08
Aha,interesting comment. i agree with you point, and what i want to say is the great-looking guys usually have some fault just because of their looking. but i have one question ,i am a Chinese, and i've thought Brad was a handsome guy from a Asian's view. don't you westerns think him handsome? this is against my expectations.
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@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
22 Jun 08
Good Post! But how you are going to guage or judge about a guy, whether he is in the middle, neither disinterested nor too interested. You may require to apply certain yardstick to know about the suitability of guy. It is said - "Excess (either negative side or positive side) is always bad" and to me you are rightly applying this dictum in selecting a guy of your choice. Best of Luck to you!
• United States
22 Jun 08
It is simple. I just have to hang out with him.I can tell an a**hole when I am around one. And the same goes for a gentleman.So any guy should be himself around me. If he is a nice guy Trying to get my attention by being aloof, it won't work.
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@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
23 Jun 08
It is really nice to know that you have ample experience and guts to know about the 'right guy'. Best of Luck to you!
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• United States
23 Jun 08
I wouldn't call it experience. It is more of a sixth sense.Thanks.
• Philippines
23 Jun 08
I would rather have an equal guy. Not too nice and not cocky. He has to love me for who I am and has to have respect for me at all times. I want someone to be there for me in good times and bad times. Someone honest and won't cheat on me. Someone who'll love those people I love and respect them as well.. In return I will do the same.
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• United States
23 Jun 08
Me too!
@underdogtoo (9579)
• Philippines
23 Jun 08
Is this discussion just for ladies? I am a guy and sometimes I am nice and sometimes I am a total jerk. This is how guys are apparently. Nice is nice but lacks aggressiveness and I find that I can have girl friends (friends who are girls) by being nice but not girlfriends who will do things not so nice with you. I like friends who are girls and generally I am nice to them but sometimes it happens that being nice is attractive to them and that becomes a problem. Am I making sense?
• United States
23 Jun 08
First, this question is for whomever wanted to answer it. And second, you did make sense.So being the nice gut you are, you get friends that are girls . but you have to play at being a little of a jerk to get a girlfriend.That must be a pain.
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• Philippines
23 Jun 08
Well, the being a jerk part is natural. Most guys are jerks at heart. Some of us have to work harder to keep that down. A healthy balance between the two makes it interesting for girls. "Naughty but nice" works!
@zhuuraan (961)
• United States
23 Jun 08
I would have to agree with you. I don't want someone who would lay it on too thick, but I don't want a man who's totally detached either. I like the in between. My man is good for me. He does his own thing a lot of the time but we still do things together and he still does things for me. We are always expressing our love for each other and our relationship is very healthy, as it should be.
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• United States
23 Jun 08
That is fantastic. I am happy for you both.
• Philippines
23 Jun 08
I can't say that I hate guys for being nice but I have to admit, I can't really notice those guys who are nice even when they really like me. It is not bad to be nice but it doesn't hurt to be a little aggressive sometimes, especially when you really want a thing so much, because there's a tendency that more aggressive guys get to nicer places... plus, if you're aggressively nice, you'd have plus points to us girls than those guys who are really aggressive and not a gentleman at all.
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• United States
23 Jun 08
Thank you. You answered my question. I was about to ask can a guy be both aggressive and nice at the same time.
@alindahaw (1219)
• Philippines
23 Jun 08
No, I don't think that nice guys always finish last. I also read that article and I have a few objections to it too. I don't really like guys who act as if they are too busy to be bothered to call me at least once a day. I don't like too cocky guys either. I find them irritating and shallow. I like guys who have a lot of sense of humor though.
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• United States
23 Jun 08
Being considerate and having a good sense of humor goes a long way.I rather be with a nice, considerate, funny guy than some arrogant a**hole.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
22 Jun 08
I think that some women just like the bad boy image that some guys project, sarah. I cannot believe that any woman in her right mind would want a man who is not respectful and caring. I don't believe that nice guys finish last any more than I believe that nice gals finish last. The nice ones just don't receive all of the attention that the bad ones do.
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• United States
22 Jun 08
I am a little weird because I would expect my husband to be uncaring and disrespectful but that's another post. I hope that there are women out there that want a good , caring guy, And I hope guys will look for good caring women.and that good gay people find good people to be with.It would be sad to think you have to be an a**hole to get any attention.
• Philippines
23 Jun 08
I agree with that article. Sometimes I'd rather go or date boys who are not that sensitive . Somehow I love being challenged, if I know that someone's going crazy for me and if he's not that cocky enough then I won't even dare to talk to him. I like it when I have to think a million times when a guy really likes me or not than a guy a who lays his cards on me immediately.
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• United States
23 Jun 08
Is it that you like the mystery and the nice guy is too straight forward?
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
22 Jun 08
Nope....at my age the last thing I want is some guy that's a challenge. I also like my age group as you know what you are getting....they are pretty much stuck in their little habits so there aren't alot of surprises. I do like nice guys not some cocky guy that has to be controversial all the time. A few years I had a guy I was emailing that constantly wanted to know what my size was...and everything thing I wrote was a challenge....nadda....I finally figured out that he must be in a wheel chair because he wanted to know how tall I was all the time....I guess he got sick of always looking up to people..but I told him it wasn't his handicap that kept him from having a relationship....it was his attitude!
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• United States
22 Jun 08
I am not too young or old but I hate cocky men. Arrogance is a huge turn off for me and i have been this way since I was 12.So to get my attention , you better be polite and kind.
• United States
23 Jun 08
It been so long since i've been out with one i wouldn't know,there so many of them out there that are just such creeps.It sad to say that.
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• United States
23 Jun 08
I don't want a guy who treats me like cr@p! That's not romantic or fun. I could do better! And I have done better.
• United States
22 Jun 08
Thats very true. I've always been what people would consider a nice guy, and I've only been in three relationships my entire life. I'm also still a virgin, but when I tell a girl this they're usually surprised and will like me more for it. It's funny though, because when I was younger girls wouldn't find me attractive at all and they wouldn't approach me usually either. But now I'm older and the nice guy part of me seems more accepted.
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• United States
22 Jun 08
I am so glad that a nice guy like you is being pursued. Keep being a nice guy. Take care.
• United States
23 Jun 08
I think they probably do but I don't think its right. Too many woman complian about their men but when they finally find one who treats them well they blow them off. I don't think it's right but I do think it's true
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@friendship (2084)
• Canada
22 Jun 08
No, I don't believe such concept. It is trying to generalize that being nice is unworthy. It is untrue. Besides, how do we (women) know exactly whether he is nice or not? What is your opinion of being nice, anyway? Every person has different assumption in term of being nice. I ever read another article that is saying differently.
• United States
22 Jun 08
I think that with all things, you have to find a good balance. Nice is a wonderful quality, but when paired with low self-esteem it can make a guy seem clingy, needy, and desperate. When a man is eager to please you, that is very sweet. However, when he takes that desire to the point of forsaking everything he wants and needs just to make you happy, it becomes less desirable. I think most women just want a man who is confident but considerate. Also, a lot of younger women like the chase of a cocky man. When you are never sure where you stand with someone, it can be very exciting. As you get older though, you realize that what you really want and need is someone who can appreciate you and that you can trust to always let you know how they are feeling.
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