Pre-Election Warning

@clrumfelt (5452)
United States
June 23, 2008 9:11am CST
The letter below is from some missionaries who have served in Kenya for over 20 years and know Obama's family. I think it holds some truths that should be considered when you help choose who will be our next president. If you value your freedoms, you should listen to the warnings. The letter: Subject: Obama...a message from some Missionaries in Kenya Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:26:28 +0000 When we read I & II Kings we see that the LORD often allowed evil kings to hold an office. Just looking at where we are as a nation right now...it is really possible that this smooth-talker will be our next prez...let me encourage you to read this...then let me encourage you to take Mr. Obama and this upcoming election before the LORD. Our nation is too easily lead, we are too easily taken in. This man is dangerous. Read on: II Chronicles 7:14 "...and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from Heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land." This man must not get into office. Celeste and Loren Davis are Missionaries in Africa and can shed some light on one of our Presidential candidates. Thanks for sending out an alert about Obama. We are living and working in Kenya for almost twelve years now and know his family (tribe) well. They are the ones who were behind the recent Presidential election chaos here. Thousands of people have been displaced by election violence(over 350,000) and I don't know the last count of the dead. Obama under 'friends of Obama' gave almost a million dollars to the opposition campaign who just happened to be his cousin, Raila Odinga, who is a socialist trained in east Germany. He has been trying to bring Kenya down for years and the last president threw him in prison for trying to subvert this country! December 27th elections brought cries from ODM (Odinga Camp) of rigged election. Obama and Raila speak daily. As we watch Obama rise in the US we are sure that whatever happens, he will use the same tactic, crying rigged election if he doesn't win and possibly cause a race war in America. What we would like you to know is what the American press has been keeping a dirty little secret. Obama IS a Muslim and he IS a racist and this is a fulfillment of the 911 threat that was just the beginning. Jihad is the only true Muslim way. We have been working with them for 20 years this July! He is not an American as we know it. Please encourage your friends and associates not to be taken in by those that are promoting him. It is world wide jihad. All our friends in Europe are very disturbed by the Muslim infiltration into their countries. By the way,his true name is Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama. Won't that sound sweet to our enemies as they swear him in on the Koran! God Bless you.Pray for us here in Kenya. We are still fighting for our nation to withstand the same kind of assault that every nation, including America, is fighting. Takeover from the outside to fit the new world order. As believers, this means we will be the first targets. Here in Kenya, not one mosque was burned down, but hundreds of churches were burned down, some with people in them, burned alive. Jesus Christ is our peace but the new world order of Globalism has infiltrated the church and confused believers into thinking that they can compromise and survive. It won't be so. I will send you a newsletter we sent out in February documenting in a more cohesive manner what I've tried to say in a few paragraphs.
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• United States
23 Jun 08
This letter certainly makes serious allegations. So serious that, if true, Obama should be stripped of the nomination he apparently already has won. This being the case, it is time to do some research on Celeste and Loren Davis, the missionaries making these allegations. Are these people creditable? Can we take their word alone that these allegations are true? Start here. http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2008/04/20/loren-davis-ministries-and-the-obama-slurs/ There is more information available elsewhere on Celeste and Loren Davis. They even have their own web site. My research so far indicates to me I would not put any stock in any allegations made by Celeste and Loren Davis without additional evidence. So, Celeste and Loren Davis, you say you researched Obama in Kenya? It is time to provide names and sources of information. If all of what you say is true, it needs to be proven. If it is false, you need to be sued by Obama. I am anxious to see which it will be.
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@clrumfelt (5452)
• United States
23 Jun 08
They have ministered in Kenya for about 12 years. They claim to know the Obama family(tribe) well and since they are living among them they possibly would able to see first hand what has been going on over there. That is what I got from the letter. They are conservative fundamentalists in their beliefs and in my experience the mainline media has little tolerance for conservative minded fundamentialism, hence the "irregular times" analysis. I don't agree with all their teachings about Rick Warren, government conspiracies or modern symbolisms having come from past demonic worship, but those things don't necessarily mean they have not witnessed the political upheavals in Kenya. If they are telling the truth then the Irregular Times owes them an apology. Much of the information claimed by the Davises is confirmed in a blog by Larry Johnson, CEO and co-founder of BERG Associates, LLC, an international business-consulting firm with expertise combating terrorism and investigating money laundering. Here is the link to his blog: http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/31/obamas-african-hubris-2/
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• United States
24 Jun 08
redyellowblackdog you may want to read what Urban Legends have to say about this message here is the link: http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama_kenya.htm
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• United States
24 Jun 08
Thanks, for the link. It confirms what the link I provided said.
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
23 Jun 08
Clrumfelt, As you know, you don't have to convince me! I already am convinced that this man is not who he portrays himself to be. He has some well hidden secrets that we can only hope will be ferreted out in the coming days before the election. In another post by Whiteheather he is very presumptious by presenting his rendition of the presidential seal and some of the changes he has made are very disturbing to say the least!
• United States
23 Jun 08
Nobody's perfect, and everyone has secrets. We'll never have a president who is secret free and error-proof, and I don't think we'll find one is close to it.
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@clrumfelt (5452)
• United States
23 Jun 08
Of course nobody is perfect and everyone has secrets, but it appears we may have a candidate here with a monster in his closet and he is wanting to move it into the oval office, the presidency of the USA. Knowing the violence radical Muslims have wreaked on other countries, I'd think voters would be RUNNING from this candidate.
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• United States
24 Jun 08
Yeah, but look at the mess we have now. He had all kinds of monsters and skeletons, but...nobody really says anything about that. It's kind of a double standard with everything. Just like all the mudslinging Hilary did to Obama, but now she's backing him?! Excuse me, but I don't know what to think about this society. She had a lot of skeletons too, but no one really focused on hers. Why is that? I think if you're going to talk about one candidate's downfalls, you should point out the other one's too.
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@nana1944 (1367)
• United States
24 Jun 08
Yes, Obama wants to bring changes to the government, but... I shudder at the thought of what those changes may be. We really do not have much of a choice of who to vote for. Hillary Clinton was trying to get some bills passed in the last few years that I could not justify seeing passed. Do the words "rock and a hard place" sound like the correct words to anyone else? Seems like all we have for people in the government these days are lawyers. That is so scary to me. There are just some things that you do not find these days. The tooth fairy, Santa Claus and an honest politician (lawyer).
@clrumfelt (5452)
• United States
24 Jun 08
I think he has been pretty vague about what changes he will bring to the USA. Mostly he has spoken inspirational types of things with no real specifics about how he would solve the problems the USA has right now. When he has tried to be specific, some of his solutions for things just aren't grounded well enough in reality to do any good.
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
24 Jun 08
Not to defend Obama, but the changes he wants to make, and the plans that he has for his Presidency and our nation if elected can be found and read in his "Blueprint for Change". It can be found and downloaded at this link: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ If what he says at this link is what he really believes and wants to accomplish, then more power to him; I think he might be on the right track. However, I do have serious doubts that are raised by things like this, his association with Rev. Wright - and his membership in that church for 20 years, the changes made to the Presidential seal, the possible Muslim ties (more what they could mean and which group of Muslims he is connected to), and just plain gut instinct. I just wanted to give the link to the information that so many people say he is not giving us. It is there if you take the trouble to look for it and read it. I would like to actually hear him say the things that are in this document, rather than just repeatedly say we need change. But perhaps everything will come out in the debates - I must say that I am looking forward to them!
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@trell8402 (274)
• United States
23 Jun 08
WOW!! These people really don't like the Obamas, do they? Um... First of all, when did Barack Obama become a Muslim? He's named after his father, who was a Muslim, so that's where his name comes from. Last time I checked he was a Christian. And who is Obama being racist against? His mother was white, and his father was Kenyan. Is he being racist towards Hispanics or something? Because being racist against white, blacks, and Americans in general would make this whole situation ironic. And wasn't the election in 2000 accused of being rigged? Obama didn't run then, so he's not the only person who would say the election was rigged. Anybody who feels they're being cheated is going to protest! I'm not taking sides in this election, but you have to look at both sides.
@clrumfelt (5452)
• United States
23 Jun 08
Of course Obama is not claiming to be a Muslim, a racist or to have a name other than the one that is publicized. But his associations with known Muslim extremists, Jeremiah Wright's church for over 20 years and his missing birth certificate are all leaving gaping holes in his claims. People want evidence of the truth and so far the evidence supporting his claims is contrary to the facts.
• United States
24 Jun 08
How is he being racist?! Who would he be racist against? Not whites or blacks, that's for sure. I think everyone is being racist against him because even if he was Muslim, that doesn't mean he's friends with Osama Bin Laden. There are different groups of Muslims, and they are not all extremist. And about him once being a member of Jeremiah Wright's...We were in a church that we thought was right at one point, but when the doctrine just didn't seem right anymore, we went our separate ways. It's kind of hard to change churches when you've been there for so long. People are acting like he's sipping tea with Osama Bin Laden. But most people are going by his name and his dad's upbringing. I know people get judged by their names because I get judged by mine when go apply for jobs.... At this point, I don't care who wins because this country is already in a mess...
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@underdogtoo (9591)
• Philippines
24 Jun 08
I know nothing of Barack Obama except for the fact that he is a smooth talker who says nothing at all but platitudes. I have not heard him say anything tangible that anyone can pin him on. I believe he is an unknown factor and his agenda is hidden. It is very easy to tell what he is from the company he keeps.
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@clrumfelt (5452)
• United States
24 Jun 08
I agree with you n that. Birds of a feather flock together, they say.
@mehale (2200)
• United States
24 Jun 08
The more that I read like this, the more doubts that I actually have. It is quite possible that this is true; it is also quite possible that it is not true. I really am not sure who to believe at this point. Politicians have always been known to tell the voters what is necessary to win the election, and then change their tune once elected. This leaves the voters in a very difficult position - trying to figure out which side is the true and right side. I do believe that what is written in Obama's "Blueprint for Change" is possibly the best political plans for our nation that I have seen or heard, as of yet; however, if what we are reading hear is true, then how much of what is in that document will be followed through upon if he is elected? I just truly do not know what to think. I do support the political views that Obama put forth in that document, but I do not like things like Rev. Wright, the altered Presidential seal, and connections like this with the problems in Kenya. Hopefully these things will be resolved before the election in November. I pray that the truth comes to light, and wins in the end.
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