What Did Obama Say This Time?

@Rozie37 (15499)
Turkmenistan
June 24, 2008 3:43pm CST
I was reading an article on AOL news about Obama and something to do with James Dobson and the Constution, the Bible and all that. I am usually not a political person, so attempting to understand this stuff can be difficult for me. Can anyone explain to me what Dobson is speaking of? http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/obama-accused-of-distorting-bible/20080624100309990001
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@dvschic (1795)
• United States
24 Jun 08
i really believe what obama is saying here. he's trying to push forward with a division of church and state. the bible should not be the basis for our laws, as some parts of the bible are outdated (eating shellfish, etc) and some are just not applicable to current times. Plus, even though the old testament is pretty much the same in most religions, the new testament offers up widely different paths.. so which religion would we follow... Dobson is saying that Obama was out of line and that the bible is the bible, no matter what..
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
24 Jun 08
Well I know that as far as shellfish, the new testament of the Bible says that all meats are good, as long as you give thanks. I think that now more than ever, the church needs to get involved in politics. The laws that are being decided on will affect the church in a major way. As far as pastors being told that they can not refuse to marry gay couples. Do you think that they should just shut up and do as they are told?
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
25 Jun 08
No minister is being told that they have to marry gay couples. That will never be an issue. Civil Service people, on the other hand, have to do their job and cannot let their predjudices get in the way.
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@anniepa (27279)
• United States
24 Jun 08
Rozie, this is yet another example of how ridiculous this campaign has become. With all due respect to James Dobson, I think he's treading where he should not tread. As a religious leader I think he's supposed to stay out of the political fray in order to maintain his tax-free status, if he has it which I'm not sure. If he doesn't, then he doesn't really qualify as a "religious leader", does he? Anyway, I guess what it amounts to is several years ago Obama made a speech where he referenced the Old Testament and I guess Dobson complained that he spoke of things from the Old Testament that had been refuted or updated (or whatever it's called!) by the New Testament. Personally, I don't think it has a thing to do with the issues we're facing such as the horrible economy, the price of gas and food, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc. Annie
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
24 Jun 08
Thank you so much, Annie. I was counting on you to help me understand all of this. I know that you are really in to politics. I am just wondering now, if it seems fitting for James Dobson to speak up at this point, since so many issues that are being debated affects the church in a major way?
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
25 Jun 08
Annie, Rozie is talking about the lie perpetrated by the Religious Right claiming that if gay marraige were legal then preachers would be forced to perform said ceremonies. This is another of the lies that Dobson states.
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@anniepa (27279)
• United States
25 Jun 08
Thanks so much for you kind words, Hon! The way I see it, there's really nothing that is going to adversely effect the church adversely as long as the line between church and state isn't crossed. What I mean is, your pastor and any other pastor can continue to preach on whatever he or she chooses, they will never be forced to perform a marriage ceremony for anyone they don't want to perform it for and they won't have to accept that anything isn't a sin if they believe that it is. All they can't do is commit violent acts against someone who hasn't broken a civil law but has broken a church rule in their view. Religious leaders have every right to say whatever they want to say, short of inciting violence, but if they become active in a political campaign or outright endorse or support a candidate then their church is at risk of losing their non-profit status. I hope this helps a little! Annie
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@bloglady (19)
• United States
28 Jun 08
It also might be interesting to note that the speech Dobson attacked was from 2006 and Dobson's name was mentioned in the speech. Dobson is clearly wrong in his attack. Obama did not twist the Bible to fit his views. Actually, Dobson should not be considered a Christian leader at all. He is a child psychologist by profession and education. I wish he would keep quiet.
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
I do not understand why he can not be a Christian leader and a child psychologist. I do not know what Obama or Dobson said. Maybe there is a video on Youtube. Whatever it was, it sure has a lot of people hot under the collar. All I can say in defense of either one of them is that no one is perfect, only God.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
25 Jun 08
Dobson is an idiot. Even if something he says is spot on, I would be less inclined to listen because he is a fool. I pity the people who feel that his word is right.
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
26 Jun 08
Oh, alright.
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