My husband and I disagree about abortion!

United States
July 5, 2008 2:37pm CST
I feel that abortion is wrong, no matter what. My husband always argues with me about my position, even though he says he is "pro-choice" -- but he won't even tolerate me having my CHOICE of opinion about this. What I find ironic and horrific is this: his children are what I would call survivors of abortion. His exwife had numerous abortions, and the two kids he has just happened to make it through the gauntlet, ie, she "chose" to allow these particular ones to live while the others died at her hands. I am not sure if she/they ever decided to abort any of their own children, but she is a promiscuous person who got herself in this situation too often. I do know, though, and this makes me sick, that at one time, he was in favor of aborting his firstborn, who is now 18 and a delightful kid who has lived with us full time for the last 6 years. I don't have any kids with him. I just do not understand where this guy is coming from. How can a man whose own children might have been aborted not see that this is a crazy, messed up "choice"? I'm all for choice, but my take on it is this: can't a woman like this make her "choice" before she goes to bed with random guys and gets knocked up? And my choice is to be solidly anti-abortion. I know this subject always brings out the worst in people, but if you have comments relating to a couple on opposite sides of this issue, please write.
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@hellcowboy (7374)
• United States
5 Jul 08
I personally feel that abortion is nothing short of murder,because all your doing is murdering a poor innocent child,all because you do not want to have it, I do not see how he can be so up on abortion,especially when they are his children,I do not see how anyone could basically kill something they helped make,and that everyone should have a choice,and I support all people who are against abortion,and if you get pregnant and do not want to take care of,then at least give it up for adoption,I do not feel that,that is much better, but at least the child will get the chance to live with a family who will love it and raise it and treat it right.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
6 Jul 08
The thing is that the woman you described is obviously not a responsible person and obviously did not bother with birth control. I can kind of relate to your husband's stance on this. I am pro-choice myself. By that, I mean that I do not judge anyone who makes the choice to abort even tho I personally have not and don't believe I could do it. For most women, It is an extremely difficult and well thought out choice given their particular circumstances. The woman you described above is a bad example as it should not be and is not intended to be a regular form of birthcontrol. She is someone that probably should have had her tubes tied long ago from the sounds of it. When my youngest was conceived, I was on birthcontrol and a single mom already raising 3 children. I had only been seeing the father for a few months when I found myself pregnant. I did not want to marry him or even live with him. Financially, I was struggling as it was. I have to admit that for the first time ever, I did consider abortion. I was also nearly 40. In the end, I opted to keep her believing that everything happens for a reason. I have absolutely no regrets. She added so much fun and life to my little family. The point is...It was my choice and I didn't have her feeling I was forced to or have a negative outlook on the situation. The very fact that I had the choice caused me to do some deep soul searching and come to the conclusion that I did. She was a very much loved and wanted addition to us. Everyone has a different story and pro-choice means just that...choice. You can choose to feel that abortion would never be a solution for yourself without deeming it to be wrong for someone else.
• United States
11 Jul 08
I think this post , answered this discussion very wisely, i totally agree with you.
@Cocoa33 (921)
• United States
6 Jul 08
i agree with you on the abortion issue. i think no matter how the child is conceived. the child has a right to have a life just like the rest of us. i think if a woman makes a decision to sleep with random guys. she should know there is a risk she should get pregnant. she should look for a family who wants a child. she should give up for adoption, and give the child to have a chance to have a normal life. i think the reason why men make it the woman's choice. they dont want the responsibilities. they think since the woman is the one carrying the baby its her job. i think that the men don't want anything getting in the way of the plans that they made for themselves. well for them abortion is a quick means to the solution.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Jul 08
faithriver you and I agree abortion is murder no matter what, and I think woman should first use birth control if they do not' want babies,not use abortion as a birth control, and second if they do not want a baby and are already pregnant have the baby and give it up for adoption.there are loadsof women who cannotg have children and would love to adopt those babies. I agree women who feel that they have to be promiscuous use birth control if they cannot refrain from their promiscuiety.I think the only time to use abortion is if a woman is raped criminally, or is going to lose her life if she bears the child, thats the only times.
• United States
6 Jul 08
I agree with you on abortion that it is wrong. I personally believe that abortion is MURDER. Yes Murder. Just think on this when a women gets pregnat but the fourth week of pregnacy the brain, spinal cord, and heart is developed. The fifth week the heart is beating.Abortion does not happen until after the fifth week. I am sorry but when the heart is beating in a fetus that is a live human. So when aborton take place that is MURDER.
• United States
11 Jul 08
This is a huge argument among people... but the main thing is it all depends on the "situation" one has. I can't speak for that women who sleeps around and got pregnant because i am not her. But alot of people judge when they have no say so..... because they do not live the life of those people...they don't know what they had to indure during childhood years ....I was with my b/f for 9 months ... in about 7 months into the relationship ... I suspected he was cheating ...and i looked through his phoen and found him calling and texing this one girl... Well i confronted him and he told me it was his ex and their "just friends" well anyway i end up getting pregnant.... I find out he 's cheating like not even 2 weeks later an dim devasted .....i talked to the girl and she told me , that they were together the same amount of time i was with him ... and all this bull.... she also told me she was 2 month pregnant!! I was horrified , i never told her i was pregnant the next few days i made an appt to get a medical abortion.... i did it all alone and i left him.... .. and I do not regret it, but i do sometimes get tiems where i feel lke it never happened as if , i never did it, i think its all in the mind.... but .... to have to deal with her being pregnant and him leacing me to be with her... because she was pregnant and he didn't find out about me until i had the abortion ..... everyone's different ... but ... i say " live your own life, judge your own choices,and all shall be peace"
@urbandekay (18278)
5 Jul 08
First of all I must take issue with a commonly held viewpoint that has also been expressed her. "I also believe it's not a man's place to tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her body, so men really should have no say at all in the abortion debate." This is a clear case of question begging, since abortion effects not just the woman's body but also that of the unborn. The whole question really comes down to which you feel is more important; the pain and inconvenience of the woman or the life of the unborn. Clearly on compassionate grounds we should value the life of the unborn as more important. Arguments that attempt to deal with this issue on the basis of 'rights' merely fog the issue. A 'right' in an ethical context, is no more than a linguistic shortcut for saying something is wrong. That is, if I say I have the 'right' not to be killed then I mean only that it is wrong for someone to kill me. all the best urban
@alindahaw (1219)
• Philippines
6 Jul 08
I am pro-choice but that does not mean that I am for abortion. Choice is not just about aborting a fetus. If you really want to exercise your freedom to choose, you would already exercise your choice before you go into bed with someone. Try the pills, it won't get you pregnant!
@loolets2 (106)
• United States
5 Jul 08
That is awful. I don't know how he can live with himself. I don't believe in abortions at all unless one is in a major health risk. I can't believe she's done it that many times! Has she even HEARD of birth control? She makes me SICK!
@chrysz (1602)
• Philippines
5 Jul 08
I know how you feel but in my case, I was the one who wanted to abort my second child after I confirmed I had rubella while I was pregnant. The prevalence rate that my child could have congenital defect(s) is 80% and even if I am prepared to have a child who would have a special need, I am not ready if my child would grow up not wanting to live at all.Luckily, my child survived the first critical 5-months inside my womb since i read somewhere that a fetus who has a complicated congenital defect will eventually die before they reach the fifth gestational month. Unfortunately, my child is profound deaf but nevertheless, she is only deaf and is now using hearing aids. We are not yet sure but we are hoping that she would learn to speak. Anyway, she is only 10-months old. My husband is against abortion and so I knew a lot of person ho has special needs who has suffered emotional trauma due to "unwelcome" society. For now, we just face our lives one day at a time and be thankful that my child, though I know is wondering why there are times that she cannot hear well is still developing a happy disposition.
@katsmeow1213 (28717)
• United States
5 Jul 08
I really don't like commenting on these types of discussions, because as you said, this debate brings out the worst in people. But.. here goes... First of all, I think regardless what we each believe, we need to respect each other for those beliefs. I also believe it's not a man's place to tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her body, so men really should have no say at all in the abortion debate. I actually applaud your husband for his stand. I myself am pro choice under certain conditions. I believe there are times when an abortion can be a logical choice, but I also believe too many women take advantage of this right when all they needed to do was use birth control or leave their clothes on in the first place.
• United States
5 Jul 08
I'm pro-choice, but I am not in favor of using abortion as a form of birth control, which sounds like what your husband's ex was doing. That, to me, is irresponsible and sickening. I think abortion can be used responsibly, such as in cases where it will severely impact the mother's well-being to have the child. I, however, do respect your opinion of feeling that abortion is wrong, regardless.