14 going on 40

@freedomg (1684)
United States
July 9, 2008 10:42am CST
My oldest daughter is 14 and she thinks that she is grown. Every time I open my mouth she tries to shut me down and here lately anything I say (even when I'm not talking to her) she has some really snarky comment to add. She recently started getting very negative in her views. If I say something about a person (pointed out a flaw that bugged me) then she goes on these rants where I'm not really there friend and I'm a mean person. Have any of you guys ran into this before? Help she is driving me crazy.
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@alori61 (344)
• United States
12 Jul 08
This is so typically teen age behavior, I'm currently at number 6 hitting that age. I think when they hit puberty it engages thier mouth. Girls are the worst. Just because it's normal doesn't mean you have to put up with it though. When mine got lippy they were told simply they have the right to thier opinions but they did not have the right to be disrepectful. They were given one chance then sent to thier rooms. If it continued loss of all priveledges and property followed. Had one that was pretty stuborn but by the time she was spending a week at a time in her room with nothing but her school books she figured out how to voice her opinion in a respectful manor.
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@alori61 (344)
• United States
15 Jul 08
Oh I'm afraid mine never tried that one, they learned at a very very young age fake tears brought down the rath of mom, and believe me that was not something any of them wanted. When mom has a melt down even the neighbors run. I get slamming doors mostly and then lots of lip like I can't hear them, LOL. Imagine their suprise when I enter thier room with a screw driver and remove thier door till they learn how to shut it with out rattling the window pains. Taking away thier privledges and their privacy gets very rapid results even with the stubborn ones.
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@freedomg (1684)
• United States
15 Jul 08
That's too funny I remember spending a week in that same condition once. It worked pretty good for me too. Did any of yours do that "I'm crying but I want it to make you feel bad too" wail when you sent them to their room? Mine has recently started that. It's very annoying and I tell her it's only going to make things worse for her, but she just as stubborn as I am and seams to be willing to lose everything before she lets that one go.
@sunshine4 (8703)
• United States
9 Jul 08
Welcome to my world:) You are describing my 14 yr old son. I know nothing and he knows everything. It is driving me crazy too. My other boys didnt' go threw this phase, so I am not really knowing how to handle it. I guess we could just stop talking to them for a couple of years while they grow out of it:)
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@freedomg (1684)
• United States
9 Jul 08
ROFL! I love it. There have been a few days when I remember thinking "So this is why people send their kids to boarding schools". Good luck with yours.
• United States
9 Jul 08
LOL, you got it, we have even thought of military school for the oldest now 16, when he was 11 thru 14 military school was very much on our minds. Now for the past year he is at a school just 3 hours away. Soon this month to be coming home for good. We hope he has learned something from this. It has been hard on us without him home. They have no idea how their choices in things to say and do effect us. Also how it affects us to have to take drastic moves as to send them anywhere else to stay.
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• India
15 Jul 08
Naturally the time has changed. The kids of today are not like our generation, where we would heed to what the parents say, if not at all times at least listen, and analyze the pros and cons in the thing. But, kids now think, of course have more exposure to the world, and love to enjoy freedom, and want to make decisions on their own. Only with the advance of time, they will realise, and listen to what the parents say.. May be to another three or four years.
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@freedomg (1684)
• United States
15 Jul 08
This is true. I was an awful kid but then again my mom was not a real mom so who would stop me but I remember my grandpa speaking to me. I would "yes sir" him no matter what he said and it was all out of respect not fear. My daughter will fight with anyone she'll even talk back to her doctor. I think she needs to go to law school with her skills she would be a great lawyer.
@ch88ss (2271)
• United States
14 Jul 08
oh gosh, I feel for you. My son is turning 13 and I already get that feeling already, though I heard from others that girls are harder and more outspoken. I already have a hard time with my 12 years old, I can imagine how hard it is for you. I wish you luck.
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@freedomg (1684)
• United States
15 Jul 08
Yeah I think it's true. My son is one year older then her and while he can be a hand full it's usually just stuff like not doing his class work. He has been much easier.
• United States
10 Jul 08
I have been through this. Except I was the hormonal, snotty 14 yr old. I think most girls go through this phase. I didn't become friends with my mother again until after I was out of the house and grown. Good luck to you! :)
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@freedomg (1684)
• United States
10 Jul 08
See i think this may be where I'm lacking. My mom will be the first to admit that she didn't raise us we raised ourselves. At 14 I was working full time with a carnival (her and my brother were with the same show(. I paid for mine and my little brothers food, hotel room, washed mine and my brothers clothes at whatever laundry mat was close and made sure my brother and I had a ride to the next spot.The only thing she did for us was be a parental figure head so the show didn't kick us off. We were both working and my brother was 11. She has a good heart but a lot of problems. So see i never got to really see how the whole mother of a teenager thing should look. I'm dang sure giving it my all though.
10 Jul 08
This is because of your girls age. For girls this is most import age that their body is reacting them with something different and it will may also effect their mind . I had read already these types of problems in this girls with this ages.And you need to do is don't interfere their activities and gave them complete freedom after 1 or 2 months all the things become in under control.
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@freedomg (1684)
• United States
15 Jul 08
What? The last time I gave her too much freedom she stopped eating lost nearly 25 pounds and gave her older brother a bloody nose for calling her stick girl. Maybe that worked for your girls and I'm very glad it did, but I think mine is some type of mutant.
@moondancer (7433)
• United States
9 Jul 08
Chidren these days and maybe earlier have always been strong minded and strong willed. This are good traits however they do say things back to adults and speak their mind more than is necessary. I have one grandson that is a talker and he butts into everything and thinks he knows all. Granted he is very smart which makes getting onto him a challenge. He always has a comback. Which he knows he is not suppose to be doing. No talking back or just keeping on talking about things and running them into the ground. But he does this anyway, so frustrating. He is 11 and thinks he is 30. The oldest grandson 16 is much like this as well. Now we have a child 7 and she is more like 20 year old, very mature for her age in what she says and does. Likewise for the 9 year old boy. They are very responsible children as is the 6 year old girl. Mind you there are 7 all together. The youngest is 1 and the oldest 16. As you can imagine we have our hands full, lol.
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@freedomg (1684)
• United States
9 Jul 08
OMG you do have your hands full. Also I do agree that when they are smart and have a valid comment it is much harder to get on to them for talking when they shouldn't.
@elmiko (6630)
• United States
10 Jul 08
Its probably just one of those things where shes changeing because of hormone flucuations. After all she is a teenager. You will probably have to deal with it. My sister was and still is a teenager. If you talk to doctors they will tell you the biggest majority of the time its normal.
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@Samanthavv (1380)
• United States
10 Jul 08
Ha ha ha. Welcome to the life of a typical teenager. Ever heard the saying "Ask a teenager. They know EVERYTHING!" People say it for a reason. Teenagers seem to think they know everything there is to know on this earth!
@lightningd (1039)
• United States
9 Jul 08
I have raised my kids to feel free to voice their opinion to me, but they also know that certain things will not be tolerated. I have gotten into heated discussions with my kids about various topics. It's funny, but I think they all go through that stage at one point. My oldest is 19 now, and he's actually returned to normal since he has been to college for a year. My 16 year old on the other hand has turned into the typical moody opinionated hard headed teen. I have found that arguing with him doesn't do alot of good with him. It's funny how they like to insert their opinion into things that they either know nothing about or is not their business. I usually just let it go.
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@freedomg (1684)
• United States
10 Jul 08
Yeah those little comments that come out of no where and is either none of their business or so far fetched you are just like "What?" is what really gets on my dads nerves. He lives with us and that is my daughters #1 foe. They fight like brother and sister sometimes I just sit back and watch. I only step into those if one of them forgets the fair fight rules. So 19 you say o.k. I can make it 5 more years... I think.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
9 Jul 08
Welcome to life with a teenager. I've raised four of them and have the battle scars to prove it. It's been my experience that many kids go nuts at around the age of 13 or 14 and won't become normal again until at least 18. My girls became especially opinionated and would argue with me at the drop of a hat...my 17 year old still is like that but I really think it's a normal part of their transition from childhood to adulthood. Who else is better to take on than your parents who love you and probably won't kill you? My kids didn't become negative but one of my brother's daughters did...she was very goth and very sullen for a long time. The only thing that I can suggest to you is that you insist that your daughter treat you with the respect that you're entitled to as her mother. She can debate you and voice her opinions but you really need to establish a line that she is not to cross because, not only does she need that, she wants that. She wants to know just how far she can go while practicing to be an adult. Good luck, hang in there and count the days until she's 18.
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@freedomg (1684)
• United States
9 Jul 08
Thanks for the advice. It's funny that you mentioned goth kids. My 15 year old son is goth and very sweet and happy and silly in fact he and his friends are all that way. They even all went to the mall wearing signs saying "Free Hugs" to count how many hugs they got. My daughter is super conservative she goes to church with me every week and is the one I have the most trouble with. She is also the one that spends the most time with me. It's like she knows we are going to fight but she's gluing herself to my hip anyways. That part I like, even if we are fighting I want to spend time with her. My boys are both very distant so I take what I can get.
@TessWhite (3146)
• United States
9 Jul 08
She is a typical teen, they outgrow it. The great thing is when they grow up, have their own kids and get to have all the wonderful experiences of their own. LOL My son is learning this with HIS two angels. About all you can do is try to point out her behavior to her. But more than likely it will just sent her off on another rant. Good luck!
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@freedomg (1684)
• United States
10 Jul 08
Yeah if I try to point out the behavior problems you get to hear "You always say that about everything I do" I'm trying to take the words "always" and "never" out of their vocabulary. It's not working.
@bmorehouse1 (1028)
• United States
9 Jul 08
I had a friend say to me one time that they should put junior high age kids to sleep and not wake them up until they are in high school. It is a hard age, for the kids as well as the adults. I did learn that it is much better and easier if you don't shout and argue with them. It went much better for me when my son and I disagreed about something, that if I was mad, I would walk away and then come back later and voice my point of view in a normal voice. You get absolutely nowhere if you are shouting! I did come to realize that teenagers brains are not completely developed until they are in their 20's, so they really don't have the capability of thinking of consequences. So as long as you keep that in mind, you will realize that some of the things they do is just normal and they don't see the consequences of their actions. Be patient. It will get better with time! Best wishes.
@freedomg (1684)
• United States
10 Jul 08
Yeah I try (emphasis on try) to not get into a shouting match. I know with me as soon as the yelling starts I stop listening and I figured the kids would probably work the same way. I do have to admit to a few times of losing my cool and yelling but they were extreme situations and thankfully I was able to rain it in fast. Like when I found my son had been setting his and his friends hands on fire then when some one called the cops they ALL ran into my house. They all heard me then.
• United States
9 Jul 08
Well, this is comming from a teenager, but I think every teen is like this a little. My older brother used to talk back so much that he ended up grounded to our house for weeks over leaving out the milk...
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@freedomg (1684)
• United States
10 Jul 08
Thank you for your honesty, and your reply. It's nice to hear from a teenager on this issue.
@guybrush (4658)
• Australia
10 Jul 08
Join the club, freedomg! I have three daughters and a son - and for some strange hormonal reason, my lovely, mild-mannered children turned into snarky, sullen beasts at around 14 or 15. I've had to tolerate eye-rolling whenever I open my mouth, being told I'm repeating myself, my views are stupid, I never listen, blah, blah, blah. Sometimes I would just walk away and cry (depending on my own hormones!) The girls have grown up and left home now, but my son is still living here and although he's 20 he hasn't quite metamorphosed into a 'normal' human being yet. He mumbles, swears, and accuses me of 'staring at him' if I look up when he enters the room. It's maddening - but all things will pass. (Hopefully...)
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@magojordan (3252)
• Philippines
10 Jul 08
I think that's the problem with most teenagers today being confused that they are really still to young to be old and to old to be young. With those raging hormones teens really have that problem of thinking that they know all already. I suggest that you give her some time and a little space to find herself. I wish you all the best for your daughter!
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