With FRIENDS like these... Who needs ENEMIES?

Obama & Michael - Satire cartoon ak-47 and afro and turban
United States
July 13, 2008 7:25pm CST
Yes, it is true. One would think the NEW YORKER magazine is pro Obama, wouldn't you? Then what's with this cover shot on the image attached? Click to enlarge. Is this tasteless, treachery on the part of the New Yorker? Obama in a turban? Michael in an afro carrying an AK-47? The NEW YORKER says it is a satiracal lampoon of the rightwing perception being created by conservatives. They say this image helps Obama by displaying how ridiculous the propaganda is against him. Obama's campaign thinks the image is outrageous. So, does McCain's! Read all about it. http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0708/Ya_cant_make_it_up.html Now, it is your turn. What do you think are the NEW YORKER's motives? How do you like or dislike the image?
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@Destiny007 (5819)
• United States
14 Jul 08
The right-wing perception being created by conservatives? How about the perceptions being created by his associations, the things he and his wife says, the things in his book, and all of the rest of it. They may try to blame it all on conservatives, however they would be wise to look to Obama himself as to the source of the perceptions. I think the image is right on the mark, and I think it says a lot.
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• United States
14 Jul 08
I think that image on the cover of NEW YORKER is an indication perhaps the smarter liberals have come to realize what a disaster Obama could be as President. The clue is their defense of placing that image on the cover. Essentially, NEW YORKER said it only looks like we are making fun of Obama, really we are making fun of the right wing. This is mealy mouthed double speak which only a few stupid people might believe. The NEW YORKER is helping Obama just like Bill helped Hillary Clinton get the nomination.
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• India
14 Jul 08
Well i can say, its just a picture, but i can also say a picture speaks a thousand words. So i actually donno what to say. Whoever wants to take it seriously would, and whoever wouldnt wont. I mean i have seen sveral pictures just like this one about several polititians, so whats the fuss all about with this one?
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• United States
14 Jul 08
That is a very good point. All politicians get made fun of so they should learn to not let it bother them. Both politicial parties make fun of each other so they should learn to get use to it, too.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
14 Jul 08
Hello Red, Your discussion title sums it up perfectly! If this election cycle hasn't reminded us all about that pesky little lesson that our parents most likely tried to instill -- 'choose your friends wisely to avoid guilt by association', then this magazine cover sure hammers the message home! Whether intended, or not. Aside from the very poor taste behind the cover art, I'm troubled by the portrait hanging over the fireplace in the Oval Office. I certainly hope that's not supposed to be an image of Muhammed. If so, "The New Yorker" may find itself facing the same kind of insane overreaction as did the Danish cartoon of Muhammed with an explosive device in his turban -- since it's allegedly sacrilege to have or create an image of Muhammed. I dunno', maybe it's supposed to be Muqtada as-Sadr. Either way, it's the portrait that strikes me as the most incendiary aspect of this cover art I'd have to sum this up as really boneheaded. When someone walks into my dentist's office, they will see many framed New Yorker covers. My dentist is among the many who collect New Yorker cover art for their collectable value. So, what's it going to say to someone 20 years from now if they walk into an office somewhere and see this image framed & hanging on a wall? Yup, really boneheaded!
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• United States
14 Jul 08
I had not looked at the background items of the image. That is an interesting portrait. Who it is, could be important. I finally saw the American flag in the fireplace, too. I'd like to see a larger version see the design on the carper. There is more to this image than meets the eye.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
14 Jul 08
Hello Red, I couldn't tell what was in the fireplace, or on the carpet. I'll have to see if I can get a closer look. Perhaps there is an enlargable scan on the web somewhere. I'm off to work, though I'll make a point to check.
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@clrumfelt (5451)
• United States
14 Jul 08
You both summed up my observations about the background images on the cover. The image on the rug is a large globe and the smaller picure under their feet is a globe wearing a turban! The New Yorker is going to be in trouble with a lot of Obamites, in my opinion, not to mention the followers of Islam! I wouldn't be surprised to see them pull the cover before it comes out. However, that won't do much good since it is probably all over the internet by now. On another note, everyone knows that controversy sells, and could it be that someone has completely overstepped their boundaries this time to try and makea buck? Does that possibility put a less scandalous face on the incident if it is the truth?
• United States
14 Jul 08
Wow, this will really do the trick! The thing that the New Yorker knows is that people buy the mags based on cover photo's and this one is gonna sell like a wild fire. I think that whatever the article is actually about will be lost. Most wont even read it, they will take the picture and sum it up from there. Well New Yorker if you are pro Obama, I guess you are Pro Sales much more.
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• United States
14 Jul 08
Surely all business is more for sales than any candidate. I'm still surprised at the NEW YORKER. To remain balanced they must have a lulu of a cover about McCain in the works.
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@Marie37 (63)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I think it's hilarious... It's obvious the New Yorker loves Obama; five minutes perusing their rag tells you they think he's the best thing since sliced bread and he's gonna be the 2nd Coming. Seriously. So this has to be an embarrassment to them. Personally, I love it. The irony is just too delicious. Can I have a second helping? ;)
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• United States
14 Jul 08
Second helping? Just wait until they do one on John (Grandpa Simpson) McCain. It will be a beaut, and no matter what it will do McCain no good to complain it is unfair as look what they did with Obama.
• United States
15 Jul 08
Yeah, but when it comes to conspiracy and controversy, nobody tops Obama. I had a thought; perhaps the New Yorker secretly supports Hilary and hopes she gets a chance to run again in 2012. That can't happen if Obama wins this election. Disgruntled Hilary supporters are McCain's bread and butter right now.
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• United States
15 Jul 08
Liberals at the NEW YORKER engaging in really sophisticated dirty politics? Yeah, that could happen. Pretty clever if that's what they are up to as there is no way to prove or disprove it.
@James72 (26829)
• Australia
14 Jul 08
This is reminiscent of the propaganda cartoons that existed throughout the first and second World Wars! (And pretty much throughout the early to mid part of the 1900's really). In my opinion it is nothing more than a tongue in cheek parody at best and I personally have no issues with it at all. If it were to show Obama (or anyone else for that manner) killing a child or procreating with an animal or something offensive of any nature then that is a different story altogether! And from the McCain angle; I am sure that he and his entourage have personally had a bit of a giggle about it and now it is his time to condemn the same so he may protect his own a@@ from something similar coming out with HIM as the centrepiece! Humour comes in many forms and as long as it is not morally, ethically or theologically reprehensible or offensive then I will either see it as funny or think nothing more on it. The Obama cartoon I do not find particularly amusing myself; but the subject matter itself is also not really of any major importance to me either. And as for the NEW YORKER? Way to sell some papers guys! Champion effort!
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• United States
14 Jul 08
Yes, before the NEW YORKER is for or against any candidate, they are for selling the magazine. This should do the trick. As to John (Grandpa Simpson) McCain, I'm sure his turn is coming.
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@James72 (26829)
• Australia
14 Jul 08
Oh man..... As an avid Simpson's fan the picture I will now have in my head whenever I see John McCain will never be the same again!
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• United States
14 Jul 08
You can thank one of the critics of one of my posts. I repeatedly refer to Obama to include his middle name. This respondent asked how would I like it if he refered to John (Grandpa Simpson) McCain? Of course, I told him that was a really neat idea!
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• United States
14 Jul 08
that is so unbelievably hilarious. who could have imagined they'd do something like that. it will be interesting to see how this developes.
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• United States
15 Jul 08
Hilarious and interesting are about the exact right words. I figure what will be hilarious and interesting even more so is when they do a McCain cover so they can claim 'balence'.
• United States
15 Jul 08
LOL that'll be something to look forward to as well.
@gewcew23 (8010)
• United States
18 Jul 08
This just goes to show everyone that a blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while. The New Yorker was just tried of being wrong on everything, and they just wanted to say that atlest one time they got it right. Do not worry folk the next issue they will go back to screwing things up. Who reads the New Yorker anyway? Only elitist and pseudoelitist would read such a publication. McCain find it outrageous well what I find outrageous is him always sticking up for Hussein. He has no problem throwing his own supporter under the bus, on the behalf of Hussein. He has defended Hussein so much you might think he is campaigning for the Hussein's VP slot.
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• United States
18 Jul 08
McCain is trying to appear 'understanding' and a 'nice guy'. Guess he never heard the expression 'nice guys finish last'! As to the New Yorker, I believe the editor is far too sophisticated to not realize that cover hurt Obama. That business about the cover making fun of conversatives is a lie for the purpose of getting away with ridiculing Obama.
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@laglen (19778)
• United States
15 Jul 08
I have already heard about this and responded on another discussion. This person thought that Obama should sue the New Yorker. I feel this cover is very tasteless but not lawsuit worthy. I think it is funny in a sick kind of way that all of these people that are "helping" Obama are doing the opposite. Rev Wright, his wife, the New Yorker! lmao. Like you said, "who needs enemies"!
• United States
15 Jul 08
The NEW YORKER can not be sued successfully for that cover. When you are a candidate, the standard for libel is outrageously high to protect political speech. To sue a cartoonist a candidate would have to prove the cartoonist knew the information protrayed was false, and intended harm. In this case, who can prove Obama isn't a secret Muslim? You can't prove it. I don't believe he is, but how do you prove it? Obama's word would be insufficient. Merely intending harm to a candidacy is not grounds to sue as that's the object of most cartoons!
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@valeria1 (2723)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I agree with all you are saying there, and I think that people that believes in reporters of any newspaper, tv, magazines, etc as being their friends is completely out of reality. The only thing they think is how to make a profit by putting someone's down.
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• United States
15 Jul 08
Gee, when you put it that way, it sounds like a reporter has a pretty neat job.
@rosey3223 (1569)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I LOVE IT!! I think it depicts how a lot of people feel (and fear) about him, his campaign, and possible future as President!! I think it's creative and brilliant, but also self explanatory. I read a small news article clip of this just this morning and had a good laugh. But to actually get to see what the picture looks like, I'm rolling on the floor with laughter now!! It's wonderful!!
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• Ireland
14 Jul 08
dude i dont know what to think about this its kinda confusing
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• United States
14 Jul 08
Yes, confusing it is.
@cbreeze (1206)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I am unsure of the New Yorkers motives except maybe for the sake of increased exposure due to controversy. I think it is in very poor taste. I think it perpetuates fear, hatred and stereotypes.
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• United States
14 Jul 08
Many of the NEW YORKER's friends probably will tell them the same as you just said.
@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I was really appalled when I saw this and I can understand why the Obama camp was upset. I know that the New Yorker magazine has always used a lot of satire and like to do it on the covers especially. You are right because this just adds to the fact that so many people do not know the truth about him. How many times are we going to see him pictured in a turban which makes so many think he is Muslim when he is not.I agree his "friends" have not done him any favors here.
• United States
14 Jul 08
Yep, it does make one wonder what is going on. The NEW YORKER staff is pretty sophisticated. Hard to believe they do not know what they are doing.