We Succeeded in Iraq!?!?!
By Pitgull
@Pitgull (1522)
United States
July 21, 2008 9:29am CST
John McCain said in Kansas City, Missouri the other morning, that we succeeded in Iraq.
What were our goals?
He also said we need to continue the strategy we set in place, in Iraq, in order to win the war.
So our goal was never to win. I thought we went into Afghanistan looking for terrorists. Now we are occupying Iraq, and there are plans to send more troops to Afghanistan....
So we have succeeded, but have not won the war we never should have gotten into...
I do not understand this....what did we end up accomplishing, that if we left, everything would just fall apart?
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4 responses
@avidwhit (1492)
• Mexico
22 Jul 08
The USA might be in Afgainstan for the Poppy Plant and Iran for the oil and any religous booty for the Church. John McCain will be the next president as well. Not that this is was what I want. What big business just walk away when theres money to be made? :)
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@Pitgull (1522)
• United States
22 Jul 08
I do not see Senator McCain becoming President....
He sounds like he has conceded already....
And he keeps making mistakes. I understand people are not perfect, but Senator McCain is showing his age, and we need someone young enough, who understands the times we are in....
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@avidwhit (1492)
• Mexico
22 Jul 08
I hope you are right. But people didnt want Bush for a second term and here he is. I will be pleasantly suprised at the state of the USA if McCain doesnt win. If he does win it just goes to show that the controll is not in the hands of the voter but in the hands of the old big money. Regards I hope all is well for you take care! :)

@tutul0045 (2630)
• India
22 Jul 08
Hello there,
Yes u r right we dont know what they r fighting for and y its needed in the first place. These place su mentioned have so many problems of their own and they cant afford to have foreign elements in their country.
American government is wasting fund in a project which is not at all needed and they could have utilized this money to being down the gas rates for their citizens.
Well it is all very complicated and a very mean politics is involved in these things which people like u and me are not going to understand.
Cheers,
Tutul
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@Pitgull (1522)
• United States
22 Jul 08
Do not be so quick to judge. Although it seems so very complicated, I have been studying politics for a good portion of my life. I understand it is dirty, and applaud that there are candidates that will say exactly that.
But do not say that we are not going to understand. I am informed, I call my representatives and I understand people. No one knows everything, not even our representatives, they can feel just as lost and powerless as us. What I do not understand, is why everyone is so quick to decide it is not their problem.
I AM affected by gas prices, I AM affected by this war, I AM affected by the morale and the mental stability of my country. I hear the stress in my parents voices, I hear the uncertainty in my little sister's, and I am not just going to say "I am not going to understand" or worse, just sit here while other people make decisions that are going to affect the rest of MY life and potentially the lives of my children.
I cannot do that. Not as me, and surely not as an American.
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@Annie2 (594)
• United States
21 Jul 08
Pitgull, do you think we will ever really know the truth about anything to do with this war, with Iraq, with Afhanistan, with the candidates? I, personally, do not know whom to believe. The media isn't helping us to understand either. I just try to listen to it and read about it and try to sort it all out and the whole thing gets to be too much and too scary. I have a grandson. He's a precious 10-year-old. I don't want him to some day have to go to a war that we don't believe in. I hope it is over by then, but I am afraid it won't be. I have to decide whether or not I believe in it, in them -- the politicians, the reporters, etc.
@Pitgull (1522)
• United States
21 Jul 08
No, I do not believe we will ever know the whole story. I just find it interesting how the price of oil might be affected by having an oil man in office....
I cannot understand why anyone voted for him a second term.
These are the candidates we have to chose from, One believes we have succeeded in Iraq, the other, feels we never should have gone.
Anything I was ever taught about the wars and fighting that has gone on there, tells me it is unwise to tamper with the civil disunity of another country. They need to get along with each other, before we can even believe we can help them...
Why do we send troops to countries, who obviously do not want us there, when there are countries ASKING for our presence. Countries ASKING us to send troops...
That is what I do not understand.. :\
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@Annie2 (594)
• United States
21 Jul 08
I know what you mean. I agree with you. I also remember being taught that it is not wise to go into a country with unrest, but then I was also taught that we must go in where there is unrest and try to help those being oppressed, murdered, overrun. Again, two sides to the coin. What are we to do? Flip the coin and take our chances? It seems that way with our two candidates, doesn't it?
@CEVCEV (543)
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21 Jul 08
OIL, OIL, OIL, Sorry about that, but in my opinion the war or occupation of Iraq was and still is about oil, and not weapons of mass destruction, and now that you have gotten me started on the subject! One target Saddam could have (and if he was such a terrible dictator) and should have been deleted during the 1992 Iraq conflict. It has been told that the military had him in their sights back then, but were told not to fire ???? Aparently the west were not ready for an Iraq without a suitable or viable leadership in place....
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@Pitgull (1522)
• United States
22 Jul 08
I was always taught it would be unwise to take out Saddam because at least we understood how to deal with him. Taking out Saddam was a really bad move, because what we ended up doing was allowing other leaders whom we do not have experience with, come to the forefront and start making their countries decisions.
Which is what anyone would do.... They need a leader...so someone is going to step up.
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