Have we lost our way?

@p1kef1sh (45638)
August 4, 2008 5:20pm CST
About four years ago a poll of 9 - 14 year old girls in the UK identified that the largest percentage of them (34%) wanted to be lap dancers or a glamour model. We see never ending queues of young hopefuls to be the next top model, Big Brother winner or X Factor champion. The sciences are in a steady decline in our universities; whilst the performing arts, journalism and media studies courses cannot contain the number of applicants. The service industries - Law, Medicine, accountancy are seen as professions to aim for. But you rarely hear of a young person, female or male, that wants to enter manufacturing industry. Western nations are becoming ones where we import greatly, and simply push the existing money around amongst ourselves. We seem to be slowly, but relentlessly imploding. Have we lost our way?
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• Bahamas
4 Aug 08
Hi p1kef1sh! Maybe it's because they see it being glamourized so much. You can see it all over the tv, they make it seem as if it's so much fun, and who wouldn't want to have fun and make big money. Very rarely do you see the dark side. Sometimes it does seem as if we have lost our way. And if it was 1% that would be to much.
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@p1kef1sh (45638)
4 Aug 08
I believe that the west is losing its grip on manufacturing and that Governments are not doing enough to encourage young people to move into business. Instead, the glamour of "fame and fortune" is becoming more and more prevalent and is seen as the easy route. Although the reality is of course quite the reverse.
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@Hatley (164226)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Aug 08
hi pikefish thats very interesting and a bit upsetting for 'thinking Brits I am sure. Of course a country does need young p eople going into the manufacturing industry. maybe they need to make it more appealing to the younger generationI am not sure whether or not you have lost your way but I am sure every country needs to be able to export to keep up with the world wide market.Lap Dancing is not going to cut it nor modeling either. somebody has to work in the manufacturing industry.
@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
My point exactly Hatley. We are increasingly uncompetitive as manufacturing nations. On the UK we have seen several major industrial concerns move the manufacturing base to other countries because the cost are so much cheaper there. Youngsters are not being encouraged to go into manufacturing so what hope is there for the future.
@rowantree (1190)
• United States
4 Aug 08
I'd like to actually see this poll, because I simply don't believe it. The majority of young girls today aspire to be much more than lap dancers or glamour models. They're young and yet some of them are more intelligent than 40 year old males. I don't know where you're getting this idea that youth today only want to be on television shows but that's far from the truth. Our youth today are more concerned with the environment and the future than adults are and they know what steps need to be taken to protect both.
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5 Aug 08
Hi p1kef1sh, In our days when asked what would you likt be when leave school? the anwers woulbe a doctor a nurse a pilot all sorts of professions and they do study for it but now the education is bad some of them cannot spell their own names and girls are more interested in being a Wag or have I lost touch with modern days? it is so sad now lapdancing indeed. Tamara
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@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
I thick that many still want to be those things Tamara and that is my point exactly. We need people to do those jobs. But you don't find many that say they want to go and work in a business that makes money for the country rather than just pushing the existing finance around. A WAG is a Wife and Girlfriend Gala. Usually of a professional Soccer player. They are portrayed typically as being pretty, expensively clothed and share the one brain cell between them!!
@daninuk (145)
• United States
5 Aug 08
i find it difficult to try and judge the current state of the human race. for the most part i've figured that we all have our preferences and goals in life and that judgment of those who make decisions e would not is unfair in almost all levels. i respect those who have enough courage to follow their dreams, even if they go through somewhat humiliating means to try and get them, because at least they're trying. what i'm amazed and appalled at, though, are those people who are willing to purposely humiliate themselves and make themselves appear less than human just for a little piece of fame in a reality show that will get them absolutely nothing in terms of career support afterwards.
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@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
I agree with you entirely. However, I find it sad that in this country at least, nobody wants to go into manufacturing as a career in the west. We are losing our ability to be competitive.
@ruby222 (4848)
5 Aug 08
Piky..its the world we live in,albeit a mess sometimes !If all the young girls want to be supermodels and X factor champions etc..then who s going to be the lovely little face that stands behing the bakery counter and serves us with our bread?are all of those jobs now going to be seen as tooo menial?but yes its all very well for us to want our children to become a Doctor,an accountant,or whatever,but the main thing is that they are happy in doing it!The aspirations of the young are far higher now,and no longer are they prepared to settle for anything less than the creme de la creme..and if they all strive for that then we will be in a right mess!!
@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
Very true Ruby. However, as always, things settle and the lovely little face will end up where she should be. Not all of us make it to the top. There is a natural leveling. What concerns me is that nobody seems too concerned about the fact that we aren't making anything any more. Cream Puff?
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@ruby222 (4848)
5 Aug 08
When you think of all the things that we used to manufacture!!a prime example around here was the steel industry,also the mining industry..but the miners were far too demanding,too unionified,and shot themselves in the foot..my opinion!!the auction houses are full of sheffield plate,and lol I have bought some,one thing in particular was a tea kettle,it was beautiful,just plated silver,but it had a little inscription on it,it was given to an elderly couple from a church congregation,on the occasion of their wedding anniversary..so lovely..but what are the auction houses going to sell in the coming years lol.its going to be a sticky wicket thats for sure.
@ruby222 (4848)
5 Aug 08
Cream puff will be lovely..and two lumps please,im feeling a little bit low on sugar today..
@skinnychick (6906)
• United States
5 Aug 08
Sure we have lost our way. But there will always be people who go into manufacturing for one reason or another. Not everyone has the brains , money or the patience to go through 100 years of school to make the big bucks. The thing is there needs to be more respect given to the hard workers in this world. Without them, we wouldn't have all the "stuff" we need to get by.
@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
Bu that's just it Skinny. We need bright people in manufacturing too. People to develop products, find new and innovative ways to produce them etc. I agree with you though. You are a manufacturer. Actually the only one that I can think of on myLot.
• United States
5 Aug 08
Very true. I guess I never looked at my soap that way but that's what I do. Hmmm? Very interesting.
@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
A one woman factory Skinny. A beautiful one actually creating dollars rather than simply pushing them around.
• Regina, Saskatchewan
5 Aug 08
Damn straight we have. What worries me is that the social/political pendulum which used to swing left to right on a fairly regualr and timely basis now seems to have swung 'out there' so far that there is no going back. Bodes rather poorly for the future of our social/political infrastructures. All great civilizations eventually fail. Have we learned NOTHING from our collective history to teach us to avoid a repeat? Apparently not. Implosion is inevitable I'm afraid. Thank god I'm not too old to see it happen, but am too old to live long enough to clean up the mess! LOL
@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
Indeed Sparky. But what a legacy we are leaving to our children and grandchildren. "Sorry about the mess dear". I sometimes feel that we have given up. For example. I love everything Apple computers. We have a couple. Designed in California manufactured and assembled in China! Of course to be patriotic I should buy Amstrad ("Who" you say. "Exactly" I say) but they are assembled in Korea. We are losing our manufacturing base and that spells lean times ahead. The "credit crunch" is just the beginning.
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• Regina, Saskatchewan
5 Aug 08
Yes, I'm afraid we will be leaving our descendants a bit of a mess. Ok, a BIG mess. But I take hope from seeing the numbers here rising in the young people joining the trades. And in this hi tech world we're living in, the number of young people mastering technology at younger and younger ages is also heartening in a way. We are actually raising a much smarter generation - perhaps they will find answers we can't even dream of. The best we can do is hope and instill in our progeny the need to preserve our planet as well as our economy - oh and to NEVER EVER live on credit! LOL
@ElicBxn (61137)
• United States
4 Aug 08
LAP DANCERS!!! LAP DANCERS!!! Gods I hope these little girls have NO CLUE what A LAP DANCER IS!!!!
@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
You would like to think that they don't know, but I suspect that many do. I raised my eyebrows at the survey quote, but frankly that any girl at that age sees is as a career aspiration is worrying.
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@ElicBxn (61137)
• United States
5 Aug 08
Ain't that the truth! I wonder how many of those girls are named "Sugar" and "Candy."
@nannacroc (4049)
5 Aug 08
We lost our way years ago. We used to be able to be proud of our manufacturing industry, we knew things may be expensive but they would be well made and safe. Napoleon called us a nation of shopkeepers and now we can't even claim to be good at that.
@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
Everything that we sell is imported anyway Nanna. Sad times.
@guybrush (4660)
• Australia
5 Aug 08
It does seem everyone these days is desperate for their 'fifteen minutes of fame'. Probably because celebrities are being thrust down our throats 24/7 and there's no escaping it! My son, however, is happy to be in the 'manufacturing industry'. What does he make, you ask ... He makes a mess.
@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
LOL. At least he is making something Guy.
@anonymili (3138)
5 Aug 08
I do see where you're coming from pal. My husband's niece is 17 and for the last 4 or 5 years she's always talked about wanting to become a model. Now she is 17 and luckily is doing well enough in school to know that she wants to go into medicine and we've always jokingly told her that she can't get involved in modelling until she's finished her medical degree. She bought that when she was younger but now she's a bit more mature and knows we were kidding but also she has matured and realises through talking with all of her friends that she's not the only one who aspired to get into modelling and it's really not a respectable career generally! I don't care if people jump down my throat for saying this but I wouldn't want a daughter of mine getting involved in the seedy world of modelling... There are far better things to aspire to!
@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
I guess that she could always become a modelling doctor! Manufacturing is not sexy and schools don't push children towards it and Government doesn't do enough to encourage industry in this country. Walk around your house and see how many things were actually made in Britain. Very few I'll bet. On my desk I have a computer, printer, scanner and telephone. Not one of them is manufactured here. In the kitchen the washing machine and fridge were both made in Europe, but not the UK. I see no encouragement to do so and that's what I find scary.
@diutay (1327)
• Philippines
5 Aug 08
The media may have something to do with it. The big fuss given to such programs and the sensationalism attached to it plus the money involved might have made an impression amongst our young people. There are still other factors which have to be considered though such as their peers, family and the community as a whole.
@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
I am sure that you are right. However, my concern is for the future of manufacturing and the aspirations of young people these days seems to be increasingly aimed at fame and fortune rather than industry.
@littleowl (7157)
5 Aug 08
Oh pike you have me in fits of laughter at times..you ask if we have lost our way in the UK..the answer is a big resounding YES..we did a long time ago it makes me wonder did we ever find the RIGHT way littleowl
@p1kef1sh (45638)
5 Aug 08
I think that we did have it right for a while Littleowl. But now we have become a country of wannabes. Unfortunately we want to be pop stars, models and 10 minute celebrities. There are people in this country that make money simply by being "famous". They don't actually do anything other than be seen at the right club. Where are the great manufacturers of our youth? Mostly they have folded or gone abroad and where their factories stood is now shopping malls (for mostly imported goods, car parks or low cost (to build) housing.