TODAY i HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH A SERIAL KILLER......

@ESKARENA1 (18261)
August 14, 2008 3:25pm CST
TODAY i HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH A SERIAL KILLER. OK nothing unusual as I work in maximum security. However, as i interviewed this multiple child murderer who has no chance of ever being released, it slowly dawned on me, shouldnt we have a way of switching these guys off? I am not in favour of capital punishment simply because too many mistakes have been made, but for cases such as this, isnt there a way we can quietly switch them off?
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@ellie333 (21016)
14 Aug 08
Hi Eskarena, This one is one that is close to my heart and in just a few years now a guy will be released after having murdered a young girl close to me to be able to carry on his life and still be young enough (he was 19 when he committed) to have a good life and even children, she can't eh! Yes mistakes are made but in these days with forensics being as good as they are not so much but I still couldn't be the one to switch off the life of another human being but I would let someone else do it. We are paying for him to live a life of luxury, well three meals a days, no financial worry as bed and board all paid for with TV etc whilst innocent people who don't kill struggle to pay bills. Don't know the answer, all I do know is that the guy I am talking about has to live with what he has done for the rest of his life so if he has a concious perhaps that is punishment enough, however a serial killer, a child one at that, perhaps no remorse so yeah switch off. Ellie :D
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@ellie333 (21016)
15 Aug 08
Hi Mands, yes they most certainly did, she was only 16 herself bless. Ellie :D
15 Aug 08
oh god hun i'm sorry about your friend how awful!!! at least god got another angel!!!
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
14 Aug 08
I'm in favor of capital punishment for people who hurt children...and for bringing them back so they can be executed again...a couple of times!
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
14 Aug 08
the guy im working with is with us for 99 years, but i and every other British tax payer pays to keep him locked up, shouldnt we be given something even if only knowledge?
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14 Sep 08
What we're 'given' for our taxes is security from this violent individual. I don't see what 'knowledge' - by which I presume you mean broadcasting to the population this persons exact treatment - would achieve, other than perhaps invoking some extremely ugly mob "justice".
• United States
14 Aug 08
Well lethal injection is a good switch off. It's quiet and painless and fairly quick. I don't know what gets triggered in these people or why but once they start I've never heard of a case where they can stop themselves. I'm not for capital punishment unless the case is extreme and proven without a shadow of a doubt such as what you're talking about. Once they start their murderous behavior they are a waste of space in my book. Send their matter back to the Universe.
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@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
14 Aug 08
Isn't it a better punishment to let them rot in prison, rather than killing them off? (If you mean something else by "switch them off", please clarify)
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
14 Aug 08
killing is what i was refering to. At the moment i am torn between killing them and finding out all we can, but surely something who can only kill must be dealt with somehow?
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@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
15 Aug 08
Oh hell! A child killer? Let the other inmates at him. Thy will "switch him off" in no time at all. If the other criminals are not in there for non-child related crimes... set him loose in a yard.. (those types of inmates HATE child killers and molesters) have the guards turn their backs and let the other inmates at him. Problem solved
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@sataness (321)
14 Aug 08
Has he ever been faced directly to the damage he's done? Meaning.. Does he truely understand the pain, trauma and ultimate sense of loss he's done by his actions? Or have we just shoved him in a cell because, basically, the government really don't know how to truely deal with the people that repeatedly kill and harm people and are in a fix. Because in one respect if we was to kill him many pro-life people and religious would protest against the taking of his life and conveniently ignore the stuff he's done; But if we don't kill him... there's no where for him to go. I can only assume by the fact he's done it multiple times, that this man is not showing any remorse and in my opinions deserves nothing for that reason alone. Put him to work. Something that gives something back to society, where he's away from people and isn't leaving him in a cell to basically rot his days away? I dont know if this could be deemed as slavery and he certainly doesn't deserve the work but it's the only thing our laws will do. Am i'm hoping to hell that he's in America, because if he was in an english cell he would get paid wages and also could apply to be let out (and freed as the system tends to be criminal leanient). I don't think there's going to be a way we can quietly switch them off without someone protesting and therefore causing government to make more stupid decisions. Oh, if only we didn't have to pay tax to house the criminals that harm us, then we could just let them rot for their sins. =(
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@nancyrowina (3850)
15 Aug 08
It's a tough one because I don't believe in capital punishment either, but on the other hand it costs the tax payer thousands of pounds a year to keep these people under maximum security. Ian Brady (one of the moors murderers, or Myra Hindley's boyfriend to those less clued up about British serial killers)has been on hunger strike since some time in the 80's hasn't he? I wonder how they can justify force feeding him all this time, as even if you think of it in terms of his human rights and don't think of him as a multiple child killer for a moment, surely his quality of life is now so bad it's kinder to just give him lots of pain killers and let him die slowly as he wishes? Quite frankly I'm shocked he hasn't had a massive heart attack from the stress already as being force fed is pretty awful and in the past has been used as a form of torture by our penal system, and he must be pretty old by now. Though now I think about it he probably has a feeding tube in his neck by now... The only reason for keeping him alive is he probably knows where the undiscovered bodies are buried as he knew the moors better than Myra Hindley, and maybe one day he will give someone that information. Though it looks unlikely now don't you think?
15 Aug 08
Just did a little research and he's been on hunger strike since 1999, but was making a bid in 2007 to be moved to a prison where force feeding is not allowed so he will be allowed to die. Couldn't find any confirmation of whether it's happened or not yet. And I also read the feeding tube was permanently up his nose so they don't have to keep keep jamming it up there which is marginally more humane I suppose.
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@derek_a (10874)
15 Aug 08
I would say that if he is locked up and will never be released, he is more or less switched off as far as society is concerned. He has the rest of his life to reflect on why he is locked up and perhaps that sort of reflection should be encouraged so that he can face the pain that he has caused. Sooner or later, he will experience that pain for himself as the law of karma cannot really be ignored. In Zen meditation I have come face to face with the mistakes I have made so many times, as reflection does bring it to the surface. OK, I've never killed anyone, but have realised the pain I caused in my youth all because I ended a couple of relationships wrongly. Instead of being straight with my (then) girlfriends, I tended to beat about the bush. As I recalled their hurt at the time, I felt it in the moment and they themselves had moved on and probably never even gave me a second thought. Our minds are amazing machines! :-)
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
14 Aug 08
I guess it depends on what you mean by that! I think sometimes they do use electric shock therapy. It has to be humane whatever they do, not my rule but the US rule. So I guess it depends on which country you live in. Many countries it can be done rather quickly and easily. I am glad that I do not have to meet such people every day. But then again, how would I know it, if I did?
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
14 Aug 08
I guess it depends on what you mean by that! I think sometimes they do use electric shock therapy. It has to be humane whatever they do, not my rule but the US rule. So I guess it depends on which country you live in. Many countries it can be done rather quickly and easily. I am glad that I do not have to meet such people every day. But then again, how would I know it, if I did?
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15 Aug 08
You see I am n favour of Capital punishment when it is very very clear that the person who is being accused is right. I wold not think it safe to let this guy out and so he is just blocking up the prison for criminals who have done petty crime and just need to learn a harsh lesson before being released.
@wallie (405)
• Sweden
15 Aug 08
Look on the bright side if he feels any kind of remorse which might be likely than he will have a lot of time to learn to hate himself hopefully.
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@mands61123 (2098)
15 Aug 08
My first initial response is to agree with opal teach them a lesson do unto them as they have to others but really who would want that job! I don't agree with electric chair or anything like that because i don't feel we should play god but at the same time i don't agree that they should sit in prison with sky TV learning a law degree for free while we work our arses off to pay for it. I really don't know what the answer is here i can only hope that even if they are not made to force the consequences of theyre actions in this life then maybe they will in the next. Hopefully they have to face all that pain/guilt before they can move onto the next life or rot is some hellish existence eitherway i truely believe in karma. What goes around comes around and evil comes back 3 fold. So i bide my anger knowing that they've got it coming and it's coming big!
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@kinjalk (192)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I'm not much of capital punishment myself, but then its our tax money thats keeping them alive, I understand its their time to rot in jail and think about what they did, but they are doing it on OUR money. Is that fair???? to the the taxpayers? I don't think so. Should'nt we be using that money for other things like helping poor? building schools for kids and things of that nature?/ Just a thought. Thank you
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@Ohara_1983 (4117)
• Kuwait
15 Aug 08
for much better if we give him a funishment not only once but in his intire life,even his working in same filed of you,he dont have the right to take one life because they called just mistake.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
25 Sep 08
Oh you have a tough job. I don't envy. I guess I am not tough as you are! I would be pissing in my pants! I am not in favour of capital punishment either, Mistakes have been done in the past and can be still done in the future. A life of a human being can never be replaced. But I believe in life long term prisons.
• United States
14 Aug 08
I personally think that as soon as they are found guilty they should be castrated and then whether they live or die can be decided afer the castration.
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@Bluepatch (2476)
• Trinidad And Tobago
15 Aug 08
There is, of course, we have enough chemicals and other stuff to do that. We must, however, set standards of human rights. Without that we might all be just like him.
@Elixiress (3878)
15 Aug 08
What do you mean by "switching them off" the only thing I could have thought that you meant was too kill them, but then you said that you do not agree with capital punishment, so these contradict each other, so I am just asking for you to clarify what you actually mean.
• United States
15 Aug 08
I would switch them off. No need to cater to there needs when the have no empathy for anyone else. I think prison is to good for them. They deserve the pain of there victims and there family's. They could never change. Something is not wired right in them.