Adding characters of a different race in fantasy novel

@suspenseful (40192)
Canada
August 17, 2008 8:51am CST
I am writing a novel in which the hero goes to another world where the people have not seen any blacks or negroes, nor American Indians, Eskimos, Chinese. In the end of the story, the hero takes his friends from there to a place on Earth where the population is either white, black, or American Indian. Now I want to know since the characters from the other planet have not seen any Negroes. I do not want to have them shown as holier than thou, we help everybody, and better than those of your ethnic group nor do I want them shown as evil villains, lazy good for nothings, etc. I have not mentioned the color of their skin or had the character remark with astonishment. The planet was settled from people of the third and fourth century. The characters know the Bible but only up to the eleventh century through others coming from earth - worm hole - now what would people then call Negroes or Blacks? And could they do it without great astonishment? This character takes everything at face value and is not a coward.
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8 responses
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
18 Aug 08
I'm having tropuble, suspenseful, understanding why you single out black people. Maybe it is because of the obvious difference in skin color...? But, wait, I forget. We are made up of all shades from the ability to pass to the deep, dark chocolate which some of us proudly wear. So, I don't see where you really have a problem at all. Just call us people.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
18 Aug 08
Look here. I am writing a novel about a planet where people have been brought or came unexpectedly to this new planet through a worm hole and it did not go through the Congo or Africa, it was in the Bermudan Triangle. And the people who came there came by accident. In other words, there was a storm. I did not want black people in the novel or African Americans mainly because of your response. But the character is going to Bermuda and Bermuda although a British colony then or before has people there whose ancestors came from Africa. And since the character's friend knew the Bible, whether saying that the few he meets who are dark are Ethiopian or from Cush would be a good idea. As for the other person, I am very very very angry with you. You are the one who made this racist. Next time I will send a private message to someone who is not black or African American to get an answer.
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
18 Aug 08
I can not agree with you more, worldwise1. We all know that racism comes in all colors shapes and sizes.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
18 Aug 08
Anyone reading this post, Rozie, would think that people of color were some kind of oddity. The whole thing sounds ridiculous to me.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
17 Aug 08
I supose they would just talk to them like any one else!
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
18 Aug 08
yup thats for sure. and really probably no need to comment on the color for they really wouldnt know any different
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
18 Aug 08
At least they are landing in the Bermuda Triangle and going to Bermuda where there is not those issues. Why the people they meet there could have been descended from pirates and I guess that would hurt more knowing your ancestor was a bloody pirate who made people walk the plank then having an ancestor who worked on a plantation for nothing.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
18 Aug 08
I was thinking that myself. I mean being from a strange planet and that planet probably have different life forms, two in fact, the people who accompanied the hero back to his home, would just start talking. After they would not have the history of American in that if they practiced slavery in their planet, they did not care what color or race, so they would not have that guilt.
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@slickcut (8140)
• United States
18 Aug 08
That sounds like a different type of novel..Good luck!
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
18 Aug 08
Actually it is a fantasy science fiction, but without the witches, weird sisters, dragons, etc. I wonder why no one thought of that concept yet.
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@slickcut (8140)
• United States
18 Aug 08
Well i don't really know but i supposs that you are talented in that field and you thought of it first..Thats how things are invented and it takes just a few thoughts of someones creative mind to step out and do it..Thats a unquie gift..Maybe you can try and get it poblished....
@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
18 Aug 08
I totally hate it when a book points out the nationality of the characters in a book. It makes the writer seem prejudice and takes an awful lot from the book. I find it so offensive that once I read a book like that, I never want to purchase or read anything from that author again. If the story is fantasy, I do not see any reason for you to make it up like this.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
18 Aug 08
Well if someone decides to make a movie out of it, I do not want them to do the stereotype thing and make the Bermudan police men who see them see more wonderful then the other people who helped the hero because they are black. Now if this is turned into an Action Adventure Fantasy novel, I would not worry because no one worries about that and everyone shoots at the bad guys. Well this planet is settled by people from about four nations and one names it after their former homeland, one names their land after a goddess, one names it after their leader, and two name their lands after their tribes, but there is so much intermarriage among them that it really does not make any difference. It is just that I do not the planet to be one large country. And there are a few provinces or states where you really do not have any idea. but if the character is a white and has never seen a black man in his life, would he just assume that is normal or would he go into shock? I know how the media would do, but me I would just yawn and start talking.
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
17 Aug 08
I think the people would not know what to call the person - they would ask what had happened to him that made him that color. I think they would then call him whatever he calls himself. Racism is actually a learned behaviour, so I doubt they would see him as any different if he just tells them that he comes from a part of the world that all the people were that color. Since they seem to know something about the wormhole - or at least have a history of people coming from it or whatever - I think that would be all they would need to know. Heck, they might very well consult their Bible and call him an Etheopian.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
18 Aug 08
I was wondering whether they would call him either an Ethiopian or a Cushite. I would assume they had knowledge of the Queen of Sheba and that Ethiopian who was reading Isaiah when Philip approached, and they would assume that these were from Ethiopia. I just do not want it to fall into what the movies and tvs who seem to think that race is more important than character. Also since they know nothing about the American Civil war and previous, they would just think they are just dark.
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
18 Aug 08
Even in the Bible it doesn't seem to note too much the color of their skins, just their place. But I agree that they wouldn't know any of the stereotypes - might even surprise him a bit. But if he does identify himself with the Etheopians he might be somewhat honored since the Bible presents them in a pretty good light.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
18 Aug 08
The character is white, but he meets these police officers and they are Black and it is on the Islands, so considering the police officers might have been descended from pirates, they would think it is wonderful for someone to mistake them as Ethiopians.
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@ellie333 (21016)
17 Aug 08
Hi Suspenseful as it is a fantasy novel I don't think it really matters but I would go back in history to the 11th Century and find out what terminology was used then but if the world on Earth only consists of white, black or American Indian I would say to use black in this instance. Good luck with the novel. Ellie :D
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
18 Aug 08
I was thinking of not having the character remark about the excess skin color of the two. It would be better.
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@ellie333 (21016)
18 Aug 08
Hi Suspenseful, Yes that would probably be better and also will show that they have no preconceived idea of anything so therefre total acceptance of who they are meeting for the first time, it is only us that have labels as such for different cultures. Love and unity is what is important. Ellie :D
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• United States
19 Aug 08
It would depend on the background of the people involved and their language. However, since they are in another world they may not use either word.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
20 Aug 08
It is amazing what people call people who are different from them. I am part English, and back in the nineteenth century, if they referred to someone as black, it was not because he was African American or came from South of the Sahara, it was because he had dark hair and olive skin. And the Black Irish were Irish who had dark hair, blue eyes, and white skin and did not have red or blond hair. I could just leave it at that, and figure it out myself. After all, the men they meet do not look like Ethiopians and that would be the only kind of people from Africa, the people of this planet know about.
@iakulchen (615)
• Singapore
17 Aug 08
Neither Negroes nor Blacks. Those are names. Names for a race don't just pop up, they tend to get used over time by more and more people till it sticks. Consider the American Indians. They were only called Indians, cos' it was erronously believed that Amercia was India. While we now know that they are not, the name has stuck cos' people have gotten used to it. If you met an alien, you wouldn't suddenly start naming it something, you would call it, say a "green-skinned bug eyed alien". You might have a name for it, but it'll be later. Same here. They'll call them "dark-skinned natives"
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
18 Aug 08
That sounds like a good idea. I was thinking of either Cushite or Ethiopian and Southern Cushites or Southern Ethiopians since it would be assumed the farther south you go the darker is the population. It is near the end of this novel, so I will think of something, but Negros or Blacks are out. The people know the Bible, and also know about the Roman Empire, so I will have to find what they called them.