Why do a lot of black people make fun of white people in real life when....?
@handsomeitaliano (1050)
United States
August 23, 2008 12:30pm CST
I'm just wondering something here... Not, I live in NYC, I'm italian/white, I'm not racist at all, all of the women I've dated have been either black or spanish. I am just speaking out on issues I have experienced and have witnessed. I am not saying all black people are this way, but there is a significant amount that are. So here goes...
This is just one of many experiences, I've gone through this all throughout my life -- Yesterday at work (I'm an EMT), my partner and I (He's muslim mixed something else, I don't recall, but he could pass for spanish) picked up a black man from the hospital to bring him home after having an operation. A black nurse came with us. Both of them were very kind and friendly, I had no problems with them. Anyways, we dropped him off home, he lived in a projects area where there were a lot of black people. Once we left his apartment, the three of us (the nurse, me, and my partner) took a short break on a bench outside his building in the projects and talked for a bit. They smoked a cig while I touched up on my paperwork. While I was writing, my partner noticed a group of black kids coming out and looking at me in a funny way. Then my partner started joking like you better watch out, you're the only italian/white guy here, I blend in so I got nothing to worry about cuz I look spanish and she's black.
I told him I really don't give a **** because I've been mugged before and threatened to be shot by a bunch of black and spanish kids and I dont take no crap. This just pisses me off -- How can so many blacks WORSHIP "Scarface" and "King of New York" when they make fun of white people and see them as "weak", if you will, compared to them in real life??? That makes no sense! "King of New York" especially, because in that movie, Christopher Walken plays a white mob boss who is in charge of a mostly black mafia (whom he gets along with perfectly). Notorious B.I.G.'s moniker was Walken's character from that movie, and a lot of black people like Biggie... so what the heck is the point of disrespecting white people in real life? Yeah, I know, white people (not me though) did some bad things to them in the past long ago and they're still mad about it... ok so continuing to disrespect whites will solve everything right? Great solution. Perfect. If they're gonna do that, then they should be banned from watching our "white mob boss" movies. How are you gonna worship someone like that when you're gonna do the opposite to someone of the SAME race in real life?
Sorry if I offended anyone, like I said, just re-read my first paragraph. I am not racist, I'm simply speaking out on this issue and venting my frustrations surrounding it.
Anyone have any thoughts as to why this is?
5 responses
@Angelwriter (1954)
• United States
23 Aug 08
Are you saying that it was disrespectful to point out that you were the only white person there? Maybe there was something in the tone of voice in that conversation that I missed, because I'm only reading about it and wasn't there to hear it? Because the disrespect is just not translating. It seems they were commenting that in that situation you stood out. There have been times I've been the only black person in a group of white people, and it's been commented on, and I've never felt disrespected because of it. Or, is it that they said you'd better watch out? Personally, I would have taken that as kidding. But, if someone were to take offense, isn't it more disrespectful to the black kids, since they seem to be saying that the black kids are racists enough to attack you just because you're white? The reverse of that would be if I joked that I'd better be careful in a group of white people, because they might lynch me. Saying I might be in a potentially dangerous situation (like they said to you) wouldn't be disrespecting me. It could be argued that it's disrespectful to say the other people are racists.
As far as the movies, I'm afraid I'm totally lost there, so I'm only going to make one comment. You can't ban people from watching a movie, no matter how they feel about the race (or anything else) of the actors in the movie. Sorry, life doesn't work that way, nor should it. You want to ban people from coming to your house based on how they feel, that's fine. You can't do it with movies (or music or tv or books).
@handsomeitaliano (1050)
• United States
23 Aug 08
It has happened around here before (attacking someone because of their race, white and black). So yes there have been cases around here because some ignorant black kids (notice how I don't say "all") who will attack for that reason, because they have some stupid assumption in their head that because he's white he's got money on him so let's jump him. I didn't mean that literally, banning people from watching certain movies. I'm just saying it doesn't make any sense. Why point out somebody is the only person who's a different color though? What's the point?
I'm saying it's disrespectful for ANY race to do that to ANY race. Even if it were the other way around if I was a black guy in a white area and some whites decided to do the same to me, it would STILL be wrong. My partner was making a joke, yes, but there happens to be a lot of truth to that joke and even he knows that, especially around where I live.
If I were around a crowd of white people and saw one black guy, just one, I wouldn't think anything of it. Ok, there's only one black man there, so what? What's the big deal? I'm not gonna stare at him like "Ah the only black man here". He's a human like me and everyone else. If it were one black woman by herself, same deal, except I'd probably stare at her when she's not looking, if she's hot that is (like I said I'm into black and spanish women) :)
@handsomeitaliano (1050)
• United States
23 Aug 08
And if you think that this one "staring" incident is all I'm basing this article around, you're wrong. Like I said, in case anyone didn't notice, that was one of many experiences. There was one that was very verbal as well. And another one involved staring with some physical violence while I was on a date with my black girlfriend at the time.
@Angelwriter (1954)
• United States
23 Aug 08
Okay, forgive me if I miss something. I'm trying to respond to your post from memory, since I can't see it once I hit the reply button (I only see my original one). First, I think your point might have been clearer if you used another example. You said there were more, so maybe if you had used one where people actually did or said something to you it would have been easier to understand. As for why people do that, it's a sad fact that there are racists people in every race. And, you seem to have encountered some of the black people who are racists. And, if you want to know why there are racists people at all, that is a mystery of the ages, that I don't think anyone is going to figure out any time soon.
Now, another point. When you said it's disrespectful, did you mean it's disrespectful to attack people based on their race? Well, yeah, that's putting it mildly. But, if you mean it's disrespectful to comment on someone being the only person of a certain race, I disagree. I find nothing disrespectful in it. I think people take being "colorblind" too far. Don't notice that human beings are clearly and obviously different in how they look. That almost seems like it's something to be ashamed of. I think people have come to the mistaken idea that saying someone is different is the same as saying they're inferior. If someone says I'm the only black person in a room, that's not a bad thing. It would merely be a statement of fact. It's only when judgments about me are made because I'm black that there's a problem. There may not be a point to commenting on it (except I think it's human nature to notice differences, and to notice when "one of these things is not like the other") but being pointless doesn't make it wrong.
@Chevee (5905)
• United States
23 Aug 08
You said they looked at you in a funny way. What did they do to you?
Why were you offended by their look?
Maybe you just took their look the wrong way.
People say I look mean. Tell me to smile all the time.
Even when I am having a wonderful day. I just don't have that smiley face. I can't help it.
@Angelwriter (1954)
• United States
23 Aug 08
You know, reading between the lines is not an exact science, and things can be misinterpreted. Unless someone actually says or does something, you can't know how the kids felt. Or what they were thinking. They could have been getting ready to mug you. They could have been noticing that you stood out. They could have been noticing a new face that they hadn't seen around there before. You don't know, and neither did your partner. Was there something that didn't have to be read "between the lines"? Something overt? I think people do more interpreting between the lines than they actually read between them. Also, are you sure your partner was being serious? What you saw as him reading between the lines could have been a joke using a stereotype of black people. Again, even if he was serious that's still not proof that he was right.
And, could you clarify what the "context" is? I'm guessing that it has something to do with there being a group of black kids in the projects? But, let me know if I'm totally off there. If I got it right, the context doesn't seem to have any bearing on things.
@handsomeitaliano (1050)
• United States
23 Aug 08
Chevee, it's all about the context of it. Come on, where are you from? Even my partner could read between the lines, as I mentioned. It's got nothing to do with looking mean or anything like that. It's all about the context and reading between the lines.
@Raymo23 (463)
• Uganda
23 Aug 08
You are just being sensational, and most of your article is misinformed. Black people have grudges against white people because it is they who started their suffering, and continue to treat them an unequal even today. They didn't want to be like that, you forced them to be and should not complain.
@handsomeitaliano (1050)
• United States
23 Aug 08
By saying "you" forced them to be, I hope you don't mean "me". I did nothing. And please don't associate me with the whites who did those bad things to the blacks long ago. I refuse to be associated with those white people. Instead, say "they".
Ok yeah I understand "they" started their suffering and there are whites who continue to treat them unequal today, but at the same time there are blacks who do the same to whites. That doesn't make things any better. That guy who mugged me and threatened to kill me, I felt very revengeful for weeks after (not because of his skin color, but because he tried to take my life, that's offensive to me) now if I ever ran into the guy again I'd probably feel like killing him just for doing that but then I would go to jail. Two wrongs don't make a right.
I'm not being sensational, this is something real -- Now why do some blacks have grudges against whites when they worship Tony Montana and Frank White from the movies?
@handsomeitaliano (1050)
• United States
23 Aug 08
Oh and I did acknowledge the mistreatment of blacks by whites from decades ago, so my article wasn't misinformed.
@patms1 (521)
• United States
23 Aug 08
For the same reason that some white people make fun of black people. Because they are ignorant. How many times have black folks been in a white neighborhood and been insulted or even assaulted? It sounds like you are still angry about being mugged. Please don't judge all black folks because of a few idiots. Oh by the way, I am white also.
@handsomeitaliano (1050)
• United States
23 Aug 08
Ha! I'm still angry for being mugged? This has been going on before I was even mugged, do you want me to go into details? I could give you a couple examples that didn't rely entirely on "staring". And this has got nothing to do with being mugged, like I said, I hate the kids who mugged me because they threatened to overpower me and take my life, nothing to do with their race. Yeah, they were black and spanish, but that alone is not upsetting me at all. It's what they did that made me upset.
