Autism & Vaccine Rant...

Yeah I know what you mean about not knowing what to think... very confusing subject, but it does make you think. As for Autism in our family, my son is the first and when he was born the only thing I recall that was a little off was eye contact/hearing. He reached all his mile stones fine, but started changing around 15 months. But I guess all the signs could of been there, I mean I wasn't looking for signs then and knew nothing about Autism. I do know that my son use to say "I love You" and when the phone rang he always said "Hello" - now he doesn't talk at all. He is almost 3. I say he changed after his MMR, so at times I wonder, but then at times I tell myself that maybe I just didn't see the signs...? Just wish the CDC would stop playing head games... one minute they say vaccines and Autism are linked and then the next they say Autism is an epedimic, but they don't know the cause. GRR..

I know what you mean about head games and it is all so confusing...they are doing so much research and so many studies and yet.....Where are the straight answers!?!? I just felt from the very beginning that there was something that wasn't right but my doctor kept telling me not to worry!I also had a back ground as an Educational Assistant working with special needs kids before my son was born and so I think that helped me to recognize the signs. When my son was banging his head off the floor at around a year old and my doctor told me that was normal I knew there was no way! My son's first word was at nineteen months but then by two years he head lost that and the couple others he had gained...At nine months I was still propping him up with pillows and he never crawled...he would pull himself along with his arms...nothing was normal with him! ~Heavens~

Hey, check out this video I put together at youtube. It's only my 3rd video I have made for Autism Awareness, but I'm learning as I go... LOL! I also have other videos on there of my son and his progress! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDAbayNmWJQ

Two links that might be of interest. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26532147 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22542677/

And I just found two more links that I think prove useful in my case against those blaming vaccines for autism. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24097185/ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25625510/

well i would use my example as having had my shots and not being autistic but i have other health probs so its prob not a good example lol.. but no one i grew up with had it and they all had their shots and i also was raised in an environment to where i met and knew a TON of people/passer by'er so i think i would notice more than the regular person due to the volume i have known..

People like you want to make me beat my head off a desk or wall repeatedly. Autism appears around the same age vaccines are given. Face that with logic. The connection with vaccines to autism was only brought up because of that. And we're only seeing a rise in the whole Autism classification because we can classify it much better.

LOL! && you don't think I don't want to beat my head off a desk or wall because of people like you who think they know so much about Autism, but when it comes down to it, you really don't... right? I have nothing against you... I just think we are both strong headed people && I don't think either one of us will change what we truly believe... I'm sure what you say about genetics to a point is true. I'm just saying that all cases of Autism are not genetic caused && they have proven that in some cases by doing a genetic screening. I believe that vaccines might trigger Autism, not 100% sure if they cause it in all cases, but there could be some truth to that as you believe there is some truth to genetics playing a part. We could honestly go round && round with this... && about Autism showing up around the time vaccines are given - I don't understand because they are now saying they can see Autism in infants...? So I am a little confused on that part. I mean Autism has showed up in kids of different ages, but it seems everyone has a different story with their child... I guess people all over the world will argue this - but the truth is, nobody really knows... Only thing I really have a hard time understand is how these kids were able to reach every milestone on time or early && even able to talk && then one day they don't talk anymore? && in most cases the loss of speech happened after a vaccine... Doesn't make any sense why a child woould fall from a talkative baby to a non talking baby unless an accident happened or something... why would a child stop pointing, waving && communicating with people just out of the blue? I can understand if the child had an accident or something along that line.... So you really can't blame parents for poiting their fingers at every little thing... they want answers && not the run around... && we do get the run around because one minute the CDC is on our side saying they believe vaccines can be linked && then next they are saying it's not linked. Give me abreak! And how do you explain all those lawsuites going on about the MMR? Any child that has Autism today && noticed the signs after the MMR was given are entitled to fight this && some families have already won that battle. So if it's going to court, then something is up - even more so when they give the families money to just hush up!

I personally feel like those that are taking the Autism/MMR fight to court are just looking for something to blame and because not many studies were done on children at that time, those people are winning their cases. However, given all the studies that are now out about Autism and the (debunked) MMR Myth, I don't think those people will win their cases anymore. And, I must say, I've been trained in Autism and how to work with children that are Autistic. I'm an early childhood educator. So not everyone in these fights as you think knows nothing about Autism.

Yeah it makes you wonder... DO you know if your friend ever had vaccines while pregnant? But as for you saying the child never was vaccinated... I'm sure it was at least once... they give all babies a vaccine right after birth, even without mothers concent... and thats another bill mothers are fighting to change...

She was never vaccinated and he never got one as his older sister had reactions to them so her doctor agreed that he wouldnt get any even at birth. I have talked to her in length on this as when we became friends I wanted to understand more.

I agree with you... My son is also the first in our family && there is no other links to Autism on both sides of the family. Or any disorder at that.

Well Mercury is still being used in some vaccines and I believe the FLu vaccine is one of them. As for Mercury being in the childhood vaccines, well they have cut it down and have took it out of some vaccines, but it is still being used. I believe the change happened in 2006. And after the removal of Mercuruy the Autism rate did go down 35 percent. But they still choose to use Mercury in some vaccines even though there was progress in numbers. Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still routinely added to some formulations of flu (influenza) vaccine administered to U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g., tetanus-diphtheria and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. But that fact is: Autism rates, as measured by two independent government databases, went up as mercury dose increased, and are going down as mercury dose decreases.

That is EXACTLY my point. Many, many, many parents were blaming the mecury in the vials. Mecury has NOT been used for many years now. That supposed 'trigger' is gone. How can you explain the number of rising cases on Autism when it is NO longer being used? I just see it as a huge fallacy in their thinking and so they can blame someone else.

gods help us if they start thinking its linked to the flu shot or something ridiculous lol.. people will stop with those and the flu deaths will sky rocket

Autism has always been around. But it has become more common these days. There are so many up-roars about why the rates have sky-rocketed... Some say vaccines, some say genes, or some say the child was just born with it. Nobody really knows, but it has been stated by the CDC, the people who make the vaccines - that vaccines could trigger Autism, but they are not 100% if vaccines cause it. And as far as it being passed down due to genes && so on... I don't agree. Autism is an epidemic && I have never heard of an epidemic caused by genes...

Helpless is how most of us parents feel, but I have just learned to cope with my sons Autism and look at all the good he brings me. I know they say there is no cure, but there is Early Intervention that can help a child with Autism learn to adjust to this crazy world around them... :)