Maybe the Republicans will stop their stupid ABSTINENCE answer to birth control

United States
September 1, 2008 11:54pm CST
It was always ridiculous for the Republicans to believe that it was effective. I am also tried of their "family values" propaganda. What is their criteria? Anyone in a "good" family can have real problems. I think the personal problems of the candidates should remain just that, but we all know it is fodder for the press. So maybe the Republicans will finally figure out that everyone has real problems and stop judging people who have children out of wedlock, and understand that telling children to "just say NO!" is not realistic. It is time the Republicans start having some semblence of realism in their party, but it is not appropriate for them to "learn it on the job" while they are in office. Let them learn it while a Dem is in office, someone who as Obama put it, is willing to let the family issues be private.
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
2 Sep 08
As always your words are great! I made the comment of so much for Christian values in another discussions and the righties are having a major issue with that, with that said I'm shocked only the rambling rose has responded out of all of those that are so high and mighty. I am sick of the Conservative Republicans pushing their "Christian values" and "family values" onto the American people. I doubt that they will rethink their failed program of abstinence.
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@Latrivia (2888)
• United States
2 Sep 08
I don't think that abstinence only education doesn't work, but I think those who support it could learn given time. It's not going to be a matter of a few years, though. It's going to take time and effort to ease people out of the belief that abstinence only education works. This should not be made into a republican thing, however, because it's deeper than that. It's a lack of understanding about human nature and the mentality of an adolescents.
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@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
2 Sep 08
Let me say first where I stand on the issue. I believe it should be abstinence first and formost, not exclusively, but first and the most emphasized part. then comes protection education with it. It Seems that programs are either at one extreme or the other and both miss the mark in todays society. I can say however with certainty that we got to this point by not sticking originaly to the abstinence mentality. It used to be that some things were just plain wrong and simply not done. The 60's ruined this nation's values in an explosion of the "anything goes" mentality. Yes girls got pregnant in the 50's in highschool but it was the exception, the very rare exception and certainly wasn't something that society felt was "ok" or even tolerable. The sense of shame kept this kind of thing from happening in the first place and this guided education and the way kids were raised. Even back in the late 70's, when I was entering jumior high, in a pretty urban area, a highschool pregnancy was something of shock and not something society, the government or the school system bent over backwards to acomodate or exceuse or even try to work around. Now, a few decades later, you have teen s-ex and pregnancy almost an accepted part of life, the sense of shame and shock is gone. because we as a society have let it become so. The kids of the 60's grew up and passed this anything goes mentality on to their kids and as they went in to government, they took it with them and now you have what we have today as the result. Rampant teen pregnancy and the need for protection education because of the free love and anything goes philosophy that was imported in to government. Things like abortion went from being a medical proceedure that was done as the exception and medical nessesity to becomming a means of after the fact birth control, a fall back. Eventualy you saw things like in school daycare centers even further make a teen pregnancy an "ok" thing. We cannot simply stop and begin abstinence only education to fix this problem but it seems that even the mention of the word "abstinence" even when mentioned in partnership with prote3ction education begats rabid and frothing responses from people as if it was kryptonite. The idea that kids have absolutly no self control is ever more perpetuated by the fact that we have given them all the control over these things and handed our parental responsability to the schools and government in the process and whith it, moral education. Teen pregnancy and se-x needs to begin again to be something that is shocking and shamefull. We need to stop worrying about how it effects kids "mental health" to be ashamed of actions. We need to stop being afraid of our children. we need to stop being afraid of dicipling our children. we need to stop being afraid to instill strict moral values in our children. I'm not talking religious values, though, no matter what religion you follow the values are a common thread, But I'm talking about basic human behavioral and societal values. People have become so defnsive of their lack of basic morals and defnding thses things as the norm that it has BECOME the norm.
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@cynddvs (2949)
• United States
2 Sep 08
I'm not trying to argue with you here. But where I live teen pregnancy certainly isn't widely accepted as the norm. And there is certainly a sense of shame and shock. I know with the media there have been a lot of teen pregnancies reported lately. And I think the media is part of the reason why it seems like teen pregnancy has become accepted and not so shocking or shameful. But I don't think that's the reality. I think what the media reports are rare cases and that in fact teen pregnancy is still very much frowned upon and not accepted as a part of life. And teen pregnancy has actually been at a low for a while now. So it's not like it's some rampant thing going on. It's the media making it seem like it's rampant.
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@worldwise1 (14887)
• United States
2 Sep 08
I admit that they are very arrogant in their attitude regarding family values, zydecokitten, and I couldn't help thinking that if the same situation had occurred in a Dem family they would be all over it blaming "liberal" ideas for the unfortunate incident.
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@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
2 Sep 08
If Abstinence doesn't work then neither does s-ex Education and giving out free Kondoms. The teen pregnancy rate is up and keeps going up. Maybe if we stopped promoting s-ex on TV and the movies our children would stop thinking that everyone is doing it and that it is alright or the right thing to do. The message the children are getting is it is OK if you use protection. We should be telling them it is not OK and you should wait until you are married. Abstinence is considered the wrong thing to be teaching in school. Most of the s-ex ed classes say do do it but if you are going to do it then this is what you need to do. 5 seconds telling you not to do it and weeks telling you what to do if you want to do it. One girl told her teacher that it must be OK to have s-ex if the school is giving out free Kondoms. Just tonight on TV I saw a commercial that was for clothes where the girl runs up the stairs of an apartment building and a boy is walking up. She tells him she lives here and he says he lived in Detroit. All the time they are unbuttoning their pants. As they get in the apartment he tells her his is living out of his car and she tells him this is not her apartment as the last pieces of clothing hit the floor. They are selling s-ex and advocating breaking the law. I am writing to the company and refusing to buy any of their clothing line.
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@Hiridaya (40)
• India
3 Sep 08
mature content is generally permitted on mylot. I recognize that viewers have different levels
@mhonna (40)
• Philippines
2 Sep 08
Well, abstinence doesn't do good to anyone. It just a way to birth control. I don't support it. I hate it. Actually, I don't know what it means.
• Singapore
2 Sep 08
Haha...