Will Obama keep his word?

Now you're just blatantly lying and you know it. Palin released that statement because all the liberal blogs, lead by DailyKOS, were claiming that Trig was Bristol Palin's son and it had reached the point where major media outlets were about to discuss the story. She had no choice but to come out and tell people the truth or the smears and lies would continue. You've had the audacity to use DailyKOS as a source before here on mylot and this is precisely the reason I told you they had no credibility. If you think she WANTED to announce her daughter's pregnancy you are just lying to yourself. It is not a good thing for her campaign and that's obvious from the criticism she's recieved.

"Palin released that statement because all the liberal blogs, lead by DailyKOS, were claiming that Trig was Bristol Palin's son and it had reached the point where major media outlets were about to discuss the story." And what does Obama have to do with blogs or media outlets? If I'm "blatantly lying", how do YOU explain the constant claims victimization from the Obama campaign when the Obama campaign hasn't attacked Palin through Bristol at all? "You've had the audacity to use DailyKOS as a source before here on mylot and this is precisely the reason I told you they had no credibility." Yawn; show me an entry from the Daily KOS where they claim it's true instead of making it clear it's a rumor.

ClarusVisum, You are so blind to the reality of Obama you have probably walked into too many walls and your "YAWN" could be a sign of a concussion! Maybe you should head to the emergency room, seriously!

My aren't you a bitter one. "Dude your not talking about anything that matters" I think Obama's ability to keep his word matters. He's already broken his word multiple times in his campaign, including public financing and opposing Bush's illegal wiretaps. A person's ability to keep his word is just as important as his stance on the issues. If we can't count on him to keep his word while running for president, how can we count on him to keep his word on the issues when he becomes president? I'm not going to follow him blindly because he yells "change" all the time. I have researched all the issues and I have decided who I am going to vote for. This discussion isn't about Bristol Palin or her baby, it's about Obama's employee using Palin's family as a method to attack her which Obama promised nobody in his campaign would do. "i think you should be questioning the republicans word" So instead of questioning one man's word, I should be questioning the entire republican party? That's about the dumbest thing I've heard. If we get into that then I have to compare every lie by every democrat, to every lie by every republican. Just think about that for a second. I'm comparing Obama to McCain. "You sound like a bush vote-so this is out of question" No, I voted for John Kerry. Try again. Just because you don't like me questioning your messiah, that doesn't mean my opinions aren't valued by others. I think the number of responses I've already had proves that.

Changing her stance on an issue is completely different than making and breaking a promise within one week Zephyr. I really don't understand your comparison at all. I'd be more than happy to discuss my opinions on earmarks and why they're good on the city and state level, but bad on the national level. That however, has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. It doesn't even relate to what vellibiz said, which also ignores the point of my thread. Simply put, Obama has already broken to significant "Promises" that he's made to the American people during his campaign. This promise, which I'm still giving him time to see if he keeps, is even more significant because it is something he's brought up twice and goes beyond issues and into whether he really wants this to be a clean campaign and whether families are truly off-limits, or if that concept is only valid with regards to protecting his wife's words during public campaign speeches.

Ok, I am going to kick myself for this but here goes Taskr, "I said thanks but no thanks to Congress for the Bridge to Nowhere" Are you coming down this hard on Palin because she was for earmarks then against them and now who knows where she stands. Of course not because that is who you like for "the ticket" so why would you think that Obama supporters should question his word when Palin supporters blindly follow her without question?

When Bristol and her family think it is appropriate to bring the expecting father to the convention, does this not spark interest in the issue? But they want it to be private? You cannot have it both ways. One day we see Bristol with her family, a daughter of Palin. The next day, because she is pregnant she is an adult woman with her new fiance? These are the people who are supposed to be role models and examples for the rest of the country. The children included. People learn from their parents and that is why this is relevant. All the children in the country might not be able to relate to McCain, or even Obama due to age. But the kids, they can. They can tell a lot about their parents and the issues, and they also learn by example. Apparently getting pregnant, turns you into a woman. That is not what should be taught to the children of this country. I do not believe that they were intending on going after the family, but if one side brings up an issue and tries to use it to their advantage, when there are other major issues at stake, I believe someone should step up and discuss. Palin also called it an "embarrassment" which seems to contradict her views on the situation. You cannot have it both ways. New life, is no embarrassment and why is having a baby embarrassing? I am sure Bristol understood what she was doing, she does have 4 other siblings. It is the hypocrisy of the situation that is being discussed. Maybe they are trying to protect us....

"When Bristol and her family think it is appropriate to bring the expecting father to the convention, does this not spark interest in the issue?" Why shouldn't Bristol's fiance be allowed to come to the convention? When my wife and I were engaged we went to each others family functions. If bringing family to the convention opens them up to public attacks, then why did Obama vow that nobody in his campaign would do that and if they did they'd be fired? Did Obama open up his daughters to attack when he brought them to the convention? Would it now be appropriate to scrutinize their lives, boyfriends, myspace pages, grades, etc.? Not one person in McCain's campaign has attacked or even brought up his children or parenting skills. Now he's made a vow to fire anyone in his campaign who did such a thing. I'm waiting for him to keep his word. He's already broken his word several times in this campaign, but none of those would offend me nearly as much as if he breaks his word now.

Let's get into families. Didn't McCain cheat on his wife and 3 children? He's with a woman, with money, where do you think the loyalty lies? If he cannot maintain his commitment (OF which he takes complete responsibility for the result of his marriage) to the family he created, how can he take the responsibility we require of this family that is our country? Where are those 3 children at his speeches? What about this supposed "adopted daughter" that is never in pictures, on stage, etc, with the rest of the families? Gov. Palin has made statements regarding her daughter, that is her own fault. She is the one who dubbed it an "embarrassment"....a mother calling her daughter's pregnancy an embarrassment, will raise questions from the public. Especially if she is running for Vice President.

Kennyrose - great comment. Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever. He is so pro-abortion he refused as an Illinois state senator to support legislation to protect babies who survived late-term abortions because he did not want to concede -- as he explained in a cold-blooded speech on the Illinois Senate floor -- that these babies, fully outside their mothers' wombs, with their hearts beating and lungs heaving, were in fact "persons." "Persons," of course, are guaranteed equal protection of the law under the 14th Amendment. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24354 I have read both his books and the following quotations prove to me that he is not the type of person who should be president of this great country. From Dreams of my Father: I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race. From Audacity of hope: I will stand with the Muslims should the winds shift in an ugly direction.

"Would you explain to me where he said "I promise"? If this was my discussion about Palin, you would question the exact same thing. I just don't see where he said you have my word, I promise whatever." That's grade school crap Zephyr. I have NEVER said that a candidate can't be held to promises because they didn't say "I promise". "I would also like you to explain why you are waiting for him to keep his word? Are you going to change your vote because he said something and didn't follow up on it?" I'm waiting because it speaks to his character. It wouldn't change my vote, but I often like to respect the opponent even if I'm not voting for him. I respected Al Gore when he ran against Bush. I had not intention of voting for him but I had the highest respect for him. When Obama made those statements I really started to respect him and was glad to see him take the high road so vocally. Now it looks like it was just talk. That offends me because I bought it hook line and sinker when I typically expect idle talk. If I couldn't vote for a candidate that tells lies than I could probably never vote. I have to put up with it either way, but certain lies offend me more than others and this was one of them. If people are attacking you by saying a newspaper article is biased then either figure out why or stick up for your choice of articles. If I call an article biased I will typically explain why. Any opinion piece is inherently biased since opinion is not fact. If the newspaper you cite is stating facts, then they are facts even if presented in a biased manner which facts and statistics often are. You just have to stress that facts are facts and your opponent will need to counter with facts of their own to demonstrate the bias. An example would be to imply people hate Cindy McCain because only 20% of those polled had a favorable view of her. Although true, it could be presented in bias by omitting the fact that 70% of those polled said they did not know enough to make an assessment. Note: while a poll like that was conducted those are not the exact numbers. It was purely an unofficial example.

After looking back at some of your other responses on different discussions, I can clearly see that it's ok if one side says whatever and doesn't mean it, doesn't follow through, or leaving a statement open-ended. In my personal opinion there are just some people so bias they refuse to to compare the candidates. It is actually the behavior of the conservatives that sealed my vote this year for president.