McCain's record
@thegreatdebater (7316)
United States
September 8, 2008 7:38pm CST
I was doing some research on Grampa Simpson's voting record, and noticed that Gramps has some explaining to do. Here are some of his interesting votes:
Social Security
Campaign statement: Looming challenges of entitlements need personal accounts (Feb 2008)
Policy statements: Disallow using Trust Fund for "emergency" spending (Jun 1999)
Lock up Trust Fund; Devote 62% of budget surplus to it (May 1999)
voting record:
Voted Yes on Using Social Security Surplus to fund tax reductions (Jul 1999) Notice the above statement about using trust fund for spending, and following vote
Voted Yes on Social Security Lockbox & limiting national debt. (April 1999) Another McCain flip flop, this one only took four months for him to change his mind on this one
Tax Reform:
Campaign statement: McCain voted twice against Bush's tax cuts, but now supports them, and is fighting to make them perminate
Voting record:
Voted NO on across-the-board spending cut (Oct 1999)
I guess his proves that Gramps isn't the hawk on spending like he claims
Voted NO on $47 Billion for military by repealing capital gains tax cut (Feb 2006) I guess it is fine for our men and women in uniform to fight for us, but we will have to ask China for a check because it would be wrong to ask the wealth Amreicans to put more money out of his pocket
Voted NO on increasing tax deductions for college tuition. (May 2001)
Here is a huge a difference between McCain, and Obama. Obama wants to give Americans more help to got to college, and McCain doesn't feel that him and his wife should pay for it.
On Jobs:
Campaign Statement: Some jobs aren't coming back (Jan 2008)
Do you think that the tax breaks for US corporations to send jobs overseas that McCain has supported, and voted for has anything to do with this?
Voting record:
Voted Yes on increasing minimum wage to $7.25 (Feb 2007)
Wait for it.
Voted No on raising the minimum wage to $7.25 rather than $6.25 (Mar 2005)
I don't know if Gampa remembers that we keep track of all of his votes, but at his age, who knows if he remembers any of these votes.
Immigration: You are going to love this one
Voted Yes on comprehensive immigration reform (Jun 2007)
Voted Yes on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007)
Voted Yes on building a fence along Mexican border. (Sept. 2006)
Voted Yes on allowing more foreign workers inot the US for farm work (Jul 1998)
Voted Yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security (May 2006)
Voted Yes on giving Guest workers a path to citizenship (May 2006)
NO more ballot initiatives against immigration
This may be the most flip flops in a personal voting record, on record, but I might be wrong. What do you think?
Favors Illegal immigrants earn citizenship
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
9 Sep 08
"Voted Yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security (May 2006)" Aren't conservatives against that?
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@evanslf (484)
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9 Sep 08
I remember Kerry being attacked relentlessly for flip flopping, but McCain seems to have done much flip flopping of his own. That said, most politicans, particularly those who have to trim to get to power at the highest level do this. Obama has done it.
What concerns me more is what is McCain flip-flopping to. It seems that he has abandoned a number of his previous stances and now takes up stances that mirror Bush's policies (like the 2001 tax cuts issue for example and now his cozing up to the religious right, exemplified by the Palin choice). The Democrats need to use this ammo to relentlessly expose McCain who is trying to attract voters into the Republican shop by doing some window dressing (Hi, I'm not Bush, honest, you can trust me my policies will be different to what has gone on in the last 8 years, whilst the Republian party behind him is very much the same (the appointment of Palin proves this point, McCain is having to compromise with the Republican base to get their support for this election). Also of course, McCain has voted with Bush 95% of the time.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
9 Sep 08
Your comments made me think of when President Bush and President Fox (Mexico at the time) came to my city and went to the part of town with the biggest Latino/Mexican population and both spoke of allowing as many Mexican citizens come to the US to start a better life. They were a huge hit, Bush was trying to speak spanish (wonder how many he insulted lol). Bush was all for immigration, then he advocated for the wall that the US is building between Mexico and the Southwest US to keep immigration down. Or maybe that was to keep the US citizens from leaving since the Bush Administration has not done much to keep the economy from crumbling lol Not really sure which.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
11 Sep 08
Explaining to do - are you kidding? Don't you know he was a POW so he can do no wrong! When he flip-flops, it's not really a flip-flop, heck if he tells an out and out lie, it's not REALLY a lie. In the cases where he obviously either told a lie or forgot something, either of which is scary considering this man could be the leader of the free world and have his finger on the nuke button, that's no big deal to his followers! Now that he's selected as his running mate a woman with as much of a credibility gap/flip-flop record that's wonderful and she can't be criticized or questioned in any way or we're all sexists, or something like that.
Thanks just the same for trying to point out things in his record; just don't expect any miracles here on myLot at least!
Annie
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
9 Sep 08
Is that all you were able to dig up? You hand picked a dozen or so votes and expound them as a voting record. Well, lets have a look at the rest of things shall we?
Here is "gramp's" complete voting record:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53270
And here is Junior's:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490
Not that I don't apreciate you doing the digging through some mind numbing data, but we might as well have a complete record of both for everyone in here to look at right?
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
9 Sep 08
lol well at least you are NOT a jerk about it lol
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
9 Sep 08
Sure but in his defense most McCain supporters don't point out his bad side when starting a discussion. I can't say that I have seen anyone say "hey look at the bad things my candidate has done and this is what the other guy has done" lol When I have seen conservatives talk about Obama's voting record I don't see them say well McCain has only showed up a handful of times in the past few years (I don't know how many times he has shown up) lol
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