Is insulting us necessary in regard to grammar and spelling?

@Hatley (163781)
Garden Grove, California
September 10, 2008 12:36pm CST
A discussion I just read made me want to make my own point here, mylotters is it necessary to insult us in order to point out that a user dislikes seeing so' many typos and grammatical errors? Do we need grammar and spelling police here? What is your take on this? Must we all write like college professors in order not to displease fellow mylotters? In view of the fact that we come from all over the world, would it not be better to have a little compassion?
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@checapricorn (16061)
• United States
10 Sep 08
[i]Hi Hatley, I have bump a post like that and I didn't join or drop my view! I don't like the idea that we have to set a guideline here not unless if the text is more on short cutting, that will not be good since for me, I will be having a hard time getting the main core of the post! Anyway, as far as grammar and spelling is concern, we need to consider that not all members here are fluent! Like me, English is my second language and there are times that my grammar really is wrong! As long as we understand the main topic, the poster was able to let the readers get the message, that is the most important![/i]
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
checapricorn you are right and you do very well with learning English so keep up the good work.
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• United States
11 Sep 08
wow..thanks Hatley! Have a great time!
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
10 Sep 08
you are so right Hatley if they dont like reading or cant understand someones discussion,response, etc. dont bother with it. there are many of us here that understands spelling and grammer mistakes. in fact i've noticed so many times i dont spell things right. since i joined, i've gotten my dictionary back out and i live here and used to be top speller in high schools spelling bees but its been looooong time.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
hi bunnybon7 let them pass the ones by that they dont like 'reading. there are a lot of people here who have been out ofschol for a long time, and are not college professors.
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@cream97 (29087)
• United States
10 Sep 08
No, insulting only makes another feel bad about themselves. If another myLot has a problem with someones grammar skills then they should PM about this. Instead of shaming them on the entire site.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
cream you said it,pm would be the way to go instead of upsetting innocent people.
@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
10 Sep 08
no we shouldn't be insulting others for mis spelled word or grammar. and i used to feel bad when people did this to me, because i am not a good spelling and using grammar for one reason learning disably from the time i used to be in school and grew up with it, now it's from brain damage. so my thing is if they want to make or insult me go right ahead.. at least you are leaving someone else alone, but the thing they need to do this one line, most of these people won;t say it to people faces. and plus yeah so what you spell better, but i am away better person not to make fun or insult others.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
hi syankee525 you are so right. this person did not take into 'consideration all the reasons some of us are not so perfect in writing,spelling and grammar.So what if you goof, as you say you are a better person not to make fun or insult others.
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• United States
10 Sep 08
It is just more helpful if you can read what they are thinking. I find myself so many times reading the sentence over and over trying to figure out what they are talking about. Compassion has nothing to do with trying to understand what they mean. And it depends on what your calling an insult.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
hi txcheerleadr of course we all should do our best to make our discussions clear. I am calling an insult the last four lines of this persons discussion in which she or he said , if this includes you, why are you doing this?" now to me thats going beyond the limit.I mean this person does not distinguish between simple typos and grammatical errors that we miss and those of people using textese and not spelling out their words at all hardly. These make very hard to understand discussions. and yes callme soft but compassion does have something to do with 'understanding what a person from a third world country struggling with learning English means, just use some yourself when you find a discussion you c annot understand or best yet, skip it and find one more refined.
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@rajueie (204)
• India
11 Sep 08
nooo......it is not at all necessary.....bcos..... 1--- mylot is not for one country....it is there in internet and everyone shares their own views on different different topics......as for xample...US citizens are gud at speaking english when compared to any other country ..so they speak well and they also write well....there is no condition that all mylot members shud be from US.....many of them belong to differnet countries...and they are perfect in their own languages.....bcos of this mylot topics and discussions many may improve their english language gradually......so we shud not point out their mistakes....and we encourage themmm...to frends....plss encourage others.......it will be gud for the society and also for the community okkk....... cheers....
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
hi rajueie mylot is international and we should always take'that into consideration and be lenient.we are here to have fun, to make friends, and care and share with each other
@rajueie (204)
• India
11 Sep 08
thats what iam saying hatley....... we are here to have fun and enjoyment......we want to be friends irrespctive of the country.....so juz chill.......
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
11 Sep 08
To be honest, I think it is rude to bring up someone's spelling and grammar on here. We are here to share thoughts....not earn A"s in english & grammar. I come from a family of english & math teachers. I do know how to spell quite well & I have a vast vocabulary. Still...I misspell things....sometimes can't find the right words to express what I want to say and make many typo errors. As you said, many are from other countries and others may not be as educated in the english language but their thougts and views are just as valid & valuable. There is not any need at all to play teacher and correct spelling & grammar here.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
11 Sep 08
I'm the same, hatley. I'm even a pretty good typist and still...i make mistakes..many of them. I'm on here to comment to peoples discussions and i'm not really thinking about things like grammar, punctuation...all that. Also, even for those that are from this country...not everyone is gifted in that field. Their thoughts and ideas are just as valuable. It is very rare that I don't understand what someone is trying to say here regardless of spelling. If I don't understand, I ask.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
hi sid good on you. I have a B.A in English yet I also make errors and usually even after editing the moment I hit post response bang I see a typo. We dont neen spelling and grammar police here at all.
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@madasp (563)
• United States
11 Sep 08
I agree with you. As long as I can figure out what the person is trying to say, what difference does it make how they spell it or punctuate it? Usually I just assume that English isn't their first language and look beyond it. Even if it is their language I guess its just not something thats important enough for me to care enough to say something about.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
hi madasp I am in total agreement as long as its understandable dont critize, we are here to have fun and not to nitpick.
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
11 Sep 08
There are many discussions about this issue and while everyone is complaining about other guideline ignorances, I just can't see enough reaction againist that kind of sites. If you read the guidelines of mylot you will find it says this site is an international friendly opinion sharing forum and you shouldn't insult anyone for their lack of english skills. Yes, it really means that. However, there are so many people out there complaining about the grammatical skills of the foreigners and just trying to upset them. I just can't understand why people do that while most of them are not even able to speak another foreign language. They should keep in mind that the people making gramatical and spelling mistakes are speaking English as a second language.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
Yes the ruler these discussions break mylot rules. we must 'remember that we come from many different countries and are'not all English speaking,give credit to those who are trying to learn English and doing a pretty good job too.
@DonnaLawson (4032)
• United States
10 Sep 08
I have read quite a few discussions where it was almost impossible to decipher what was being said.. When I run across one of them, I usually check the profile and I find it is someone from another country.. I think it is great that we have so many people from other countries that are doing the same thing that we are doing.. We are all the same under the skin.. I am proud of these discussions and try to respond to them whenever I can.. I don't think that we need any of the grammer police on here and especially the insulting ones.. The following is an email that I received from a neighbor and it is interesting, I could read it, it is interesting.. Only great minds can read this This is weird, but interesting! fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plep oe out of 100 can. i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod a ulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
hi donna and everybody else.I was one of the 55 people who could read that. so this sort of makes my case. We can understand a lot more of the discussions than wethink we can and so many times these from other countries are worth the reading in spite of grammatical errors.
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• United States
11 Sep 08
Not power of predictin, just pure old intelligence on both of our parts..
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• Philippines
11 Sep 08
Good day... We can't expect everybody specially non "americans" to type and compose like an american does. I mean the point is they are trying, you can correct them politely to improve their skill but not to insult their lack of it. And why need to insult them? Is it really that intolerable for let say a Spaniard, a Japanese, a Korean and a Chinese to commit grave mistakes in their composition? Now, let me ask this, how many americans can speak and write spanish, nihonggo or mandarin? even for let say a little phrase like what is your name age and location? So why need to insult? And in terms to your fellow americans that occasionally make mistakes in their composition, why need to point that out. I mean it might just be that they are not good with their typing skills, I'm not good at typing and on top of it I'm chinese so pardon me to those who can't tolerate my english. Let's spread love and knowledge shall we? instead of insults and misunderstanding.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
blackmantra x hi This woman or man had no compunction about' her rant she or he just went on and on. I am not good at typing either and I am an American born here in the USA
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• Philippines
11 Sep 08
Very well said hatley and I really admire people like you that would rather understand the situation first before commenting that usually ends up in insult.
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@lazeebee (5461)
• Malaysia
11 Sep 08
As long as the message is understood, it's fine. Many of us, whose native language is not English, are trying our best - so there's really no call for sarcasm or insults. If these people are not happy with the language structure, grammar or spelling mistakes, then they should just skip the discussion and move on. There is no need to be mean - UNLESS they get a kick out of insulting others!
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
lazeebee we must realize that not all of us are English sp eaking and give a lot of creditto those who have English as a second language. no need to insult at all.
@Luchie50 (51)
• Philippines
11 Sep 08
to my fellow mylotters we need to be carefull sometimes of our grammar and speeling when doing statement since most of us are used to have fun of criticizing the mistakes of others . and besides it is also good in our part in a way that we learned from it.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
Luchie sometimes we can point out errors but kindly but'there is no place here for insulting mylotters at all.
@aendzie (571)
• Philippines
11 Sep 08
not really, we should disregard typos, grammar or spelling,well, as for me ,I correct myself coz it's my nature, i'm a teacher.lol. But anyway, it's inevitable, when we type, we would just type without reviewing it then after it is post that's the time we'd realize we have some mistakes. One mylotter responded with my discussion and he mentioned I must be a Filipino because of my term, like so what? but didn't mind him and just moved on. I think the main reason we are here in mylot is to earn money, make friends, share opinions and discuss everyday topics and learn from them. That's what I love about this site.happy mylotting!
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
aendzie I do try to make my discussions readabel, and in proper grammar, and spelling.But like most of us I do make some typos too.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
a blasted typo should be readable.
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
11 Sep 08
It really doesn't bother me if there are spelling or grammar mistakes when someone responds to a discussion, at least they're trying Even though English is my first language, I still make lots of mistakes. I think people are just being picky on here.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
hi maddysmommy It doesnt bother me eiether as we are all 'trying and thosewho have English as a second language are doingbetter than I would be in their native tongue. I am always finding typos even after I edit and then press post comment.
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@youless (112113)
• Guangzhou, China
11 Sep 08
Not everybody's first language is English. We can't blame if there will be some grammar and spelling mistakes. The importance is to share the different views. We shouldn't insult anybody for any reasons. We can discuss it, but we can't insult each other. I love China
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
hi youless yes we can discuss things without being mean to each other, and so many are from other countries so we must be' kind to any errors, as we all err at times.
@clowdine (1402)
• Philippines
11 Sep 08
I am with you. This is a place where both English speaking people or occasional speakers of the Language meet and it is a good gesture to give allowances to those with typographical and grammatical errors. We should be lenient because all of us may commit mistake anytime. But it may help to politely remind people to edit their writing before they hit the post button (which I usually fail to do) but that should be it. It is never right to humiliate anybody just because of these mistakes.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
clowdine I try to give everyone a break, and you are so right we should edit before hitting the post button. Sometimes I do fail that and then see a typo when its too late to correct it.
@iskayz (5420)
• Philippines
11 Sep 08
Hi there! I agree with you fellow lotter. It's not right to insult any user who isn't good in grammar or spelling. Nobody's perfect and the fact that not everybody's native language is english so it's acceptable if there would be some grammatical or spelling errors. I think it doesn't matter if words are spelled wrong or how they write a post is wrong as long as we understand the meaning and essence of the post, it's perfectly fine. Ciao!
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
hi iskayz we should not insult anybody for making an error as we all of us are human. and humans make errors.
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@marisriel (1156)
• Philippines
11 Sep 08
For me, that will be the rudest thing to do to a fellow lotter. There is no policy here as far as i know that we should be professionals in comes to our grammars and spellings. And there is also no educational attainment limit as far as i know. What is important is that the response is true to itself not just having the pure intention to earn. And that's what I really love about My Lot, I found sensible people here more than any other forums out there.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
hi marisriel I love mylot for all mylot friends caring and sharing and for making a little money. I do not need the grammar and spelling police to be at me at all. thank you very much.
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@Sarah1108 (310)
• United States
11 Sep 08
i know i make typos when i write. its just something that happens i try to not to make too many spelling mistakes but i dont think we should judge someone because the didnt put a period int he right place or a word was spelled wrong. i think we all type pretty fast when on here and we might have someone talking to us or other jobs going on so just deal with what comes out when someone is typing!
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 08
Idont think we should judge each other at all, as we all' make errors. live and let live.