Let's Talk...Tanning Beds!

@anniepa (27955)
United States
September 17, 2008 7:49pm CST
First of all, I hope everyone takes this discussion as it's intended to be, which is sunny and bright and at least in part tongue in cheek. In other words, it's not meant to cause a pi$$ing fight about links or sources or who's trying to dig up lies and dirt about who. Anyone who does that will be off-topic in my opinion, and it's my discussion so if I say it's off-topic, it's off-topic...lol You may or may not have heard that it was confirmed by a spokesman for Sarah Palin in 2007 that she had an indoor tanning bed installed in the Governor's Mansion. Since this story broke at least one campaign spokesman said she may have had the tanning bed to treat depression caused by the limited sunshine in Alaska. That's supposed to make us feel better about this why...lol...? http://whatwouldjackdo.net/ Dan Humiston, President of the Indoor Tanning Association and candidate for United States Congress (R-NY27) issued the following statement: "Moderate amounts of indoor tanning allow Governor Palin to experience the many health benefits that come with exposure to UV light. Especially in dreary northern locations like Alaska, indoor tanning can help guard against wintertime depression and ward off diseases associated with vitamin D deficiency. Kudos to Governor Palin for standing up to dermatologists and other members of the sun scare industry who are trying to frighten Americans away from UV light." While she's gotten praise from the Indoor Tanning Association for standing up to the "sun scare industry", I wonder how this has been taken by four time skin cancer sufferer John McCain, who frequently warns people of getting too much sun and recommends sunscreen every chance he gets? Gee, this seems like something that could cause a bit of a conflict... I'm very glad Senator McCain has had the good fortune to beat this potentially fatal disease and I think he deserves a lot of credit for doing a great public service when the opportunity arises by using his personal experience to advise others to use caution. I am NOT making light of his history of melanoma AT ALL, please be assured of that! That having been said, I want to repeat what I said in the beginning of this post - I don't want this to get nasty and mean, I'd just like to have a bit of a chat on one of the more frivolous issues in this silly campaign season. Annie
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• United States
18 Sep 08
lol, This made me laugh! I never heard of tanning would cure depression. I thought the vitamin D from the sun could not be duplicated in a tanning bed. I wonder if she knows that there are supplements of Vit D! Oh well, I personally think she is a silly woman and makes things up for no reason! If I was her I would have said I don't like bikini lines! :)
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Sep 08
Well I knew someone would start a thread about this as soon as I read it. I'm glad you didn't turn it into a bash Palin thread as I'm sure someone else will. As I have had a number of friends from Alaska I can say that tanning beds are necessities, not senseless luxuries as they are in most parts of the US. You can't just walk outside to get sunlight whenever you want. Depression is extremely common during the dark months as are illnesses.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
18 Sep 08
I intentionally said I didn't mean this in any kind of serious way but then I DID feel the need to add that I wasn't making light of McCain's bouts with skin cancer. I know there's no way I could EVER live in Alaska. A friend of ours worked up there years ago for several months, I'm not sure just what part but when he was there it was dark at like 3 in the afternoon. I couldn't handle that, no way. Just the cold and snow would be bad enough for me, but no sunshine, forget it! Annie
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
31 Dec 08
Thank you, Evanslf, for your helpful information. I hope anyone who does frequently use tanning beds read your post carefully and makes sure to use caution. When I delivered mail I used sunscreen every day all year around and I always made sure to advise new carriers to do likewise. I can't tell you how many would tell me they didn't have to worry about it because they didn't burn. I tried to explain to them that wasn't the point but some of them just didn't want to hear it. So, if you're not concerned with the health aspect of too much sun whether by natural or artificial means think of the vanity part - if you get too much sun you're going to age faster and get premature wrinkles. That is NOT going to make you look healthier and more attractive. Annie
@evanslf (484)
18 Sep 08
I think it appauling that Palin is using a tanning bed, but in fairness to her she probably just simply doesn't realise the risks that such beds cause (this is NOT a political point, so please read the rest of the information here as this is a SERIOUS issue and definitely not a frivolous one). I work in the health and safety field, dealing with both the risks posed by ionising and non-ionising radiation so I think I know what I'm talking about here. Tanning beds emit non-ionising radiation, UV rays. Such rays can cause arc eye and skin diseases including skin cancer, the most dangerous form of which is melanoma which has a high probability of killing you. There is a spate of young kids / teenagers who like to have a tan because having a tan equates to being healthy and attractive (never mind that in the 1930s, the vogue was that the paler skin you had, the more attractive you were). The problem with tanning machines is that they have become increasingly more powerful over the years, so much so that they emit non-ionising radiation (UV rays) to the same degree as if you were being exposed to tropical sunlight. Being exposed to such levels of UV increases the risk of getting the above mentioned skin deseases and cancer, particularly the case the lighter skin you have (ie if you are blond/blue eyed, also at particular risk are those who are redheads and who have freckles. If your skin is naturally browner, then there is less risk - though still some - and those of dark skin having the less risk of all, though again still some). People of light skin / blond hair / blue eyes / pale complexion / redheads or with freckles are ill equipped to exposure at such high levels and repeated exposure will harm your health. Not only that, those people who are using tanning machines to look healthy and more attractive don't realise that another aspect of exposure to UV rays is that they damage the skin and make you look older as your skin gets more wrinkly the more exposure to UV you have. So one sees people in their 30s whose faces have become lined with wrinkles because of such exposure since their teenage years under tanning machines. That is why for those women who wish to look younger in their 30s and 40s, the experts advise two things: moisturiser and UV day cream, as these will keep the wrinkles at bay for longer by blocking the UV rays from the sun. Now the tanning industry will say exposure to UV from tanning beds will help you by giving you vitamin D. Though this is true as far as it goes, the key point here is that 1) in most parts of America, your skin will receive sufficient vitamin D through natural sunlight, the only exception to this would be in the northern states in the winter months, where you might experience some vitamin D deficiency and 2) in such cases where you might suffer vitamin D sufficiency (which I accept covers Alaska, particularly in the winter months, but maybe all year round in that case), there are OTHER ways to obtain such vitamin D supplements: ie diet and also taking vitamin D supplement pills. I hope this information is useful and would urge you all to take it seriously.
@Trace86 (5030)
• United States
18 Sep 08
A light therapy lamp - Often used in the treatment of SAD.
If she were really trying to treat SAD rather than achieve her lovely golden glow, she could have bought one of those little treatment lamps that have no UV radiation and pose no threat of skin cancer. http://www.fullspectrumsolutions.com/lighttherapy_8_ctg.htm That being said, if she wants a tan and can afford it and is willing to take the risks associated to get it, whatever.
• United States
18 Sep 08
I agree with Trace, a light therapy box to treat SAD would be so much more healthy and it would treat depression. I am not sure that the lights of a tanning booth would treat depression. I could not tolerate the lifestyle in Alaksa but I know someone who lives in the north western most part of Canada and ADORES the lifestyle. She has mush dogs and does racing. Her dogs live better than most pets. I guess everyone has their own thing.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
18 Sep 08
I actually read an article that after she had the bed installed that a few months later she released a statement about cancer (skin) being caused by the sun and tanning beds. I don't understand if Alaska is so bad why people live there, any ideas?
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• United States
18 Sep 08
I actually hear so few people live there that they actually pay people to move there and live. It would not be enough. I hate cold weather and snow.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
18 Sep 08
Yeah I have to agree with you.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
18 Sep 08
I can tell you one thing, there isn't enough money on this planet to pay me to live in Alaska! Annie
@devylan (695)
• United States
19 Sep 08
Wow. I know you are supposed to use UV lights to combat Winter depression, and it's more common in Alaska than elsewhere in the US because of it's long "nights," but I have never heard of using a whole tanning bed for this! I'd like to hear what the association of medical doctors (whatever it may be called) would say about this, not the Indoor Tanning Association! That's just ridiculous. Of course they would be for it. Well, as for McCain being a skin cancer survivor, he probably won't say anything publicly to or about Palin while they are running for office together--unless confronted with it--but I would think that he's probably mentioned to her in private that it's not a good idea. I hope so anyway.
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• United States
18 Sep 08
Wow I want to be a governor. I want a tanning bed. I know she paid for it herself, but still......it would be nice. Personally I would have spent the money on a nice hot tub. But I guess each to their own. I had no heard that alaskans have problems with depression due to the reduced amount of sunlight. Do they really have like a month with no sunlight?(Note to self....you like sunshine....don't move to alaska). I wonder... are tanning beds just as bad a the real sun? I have no idea. I am one of those doomed people who only burn, never tan. So I should own stock in sun block with how much I buy.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
18 Sep 08
Good for you for using sun block, especially since you burn easily which as I understand it puts you at greater risk for skin cancer. I've read where tanning beds are even worse than the sun but I think there are other reports that say the opposite so I guess it's like everything else - one day, it will kill you and the next it will make you live forever. I'm with you, give me a hot tub any day! Annie
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Sep 08
Yes, Alaska has long periods of no sunlight followed by long periods of ONLY sunlight. I have had several friends from Alaska and there are many people who suffer severe depression due to the lack of sunlight. Tanning beds are more a necessity than a luxury in Alaska purely for the benefits of UV rays.
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@Shar19 (8231)
• United States
18 Sep 08
Yes, tanning beds are actually worse than the sun. I used a tanning bed only once in my life and it was for five days. Now I'm in my 30's and I have already had basal cell skin cancer on my face. Apparently it only takes one tanning session to really damage your skin enough for skin cancer. I wish I knew that 12 years ago.
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• United States
18 Sep 08
A little bit of sunlight per day, is not bad, it is a good thing in fact, but too much of it can cause Skin Cancer, which is what my mother had a few months ago. My mother thought that she was doing everything by the book, only staying in the sun for a few hours per day, never using tanning beds, and wearing on sunscreen if she knew that she was going to be out in the sun for a long period of time, but sure enough, this last year, she had Skin Cancer on her nose. Many people in my family have had Cancer, some have had Skin Cancer, some had Uterine Cancer, you name it. If a tanning bed makes her feel better, then she should use it as long as she knows the positive and negative effects of the tanning bed.
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
18 Sep 08
Well, I didn't know that McCain had dealt with skin cancer though I'm happy he made it through. I don't see the big deal with Palin having a tanning bed surely other ppl have them as well. As for tanning beds in general, I don't use them b/c I don't like them. I did once and it was a horrible incident. I don't recommend them for kids or ppl prone to skin problems. I guess to each their own...including Palin. As for McCains feeling about it b/c Palin has one...well, it would be like thinking that someone with Diabetes can't get along with someone that eats cake. I doubt he'd ever borrow her tanning bed but I doubt it makes much difference to either of them if she wants to lay in one. [b]**AT PEACE WITHIN** ~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~ [/b]
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@Bluepatch (2476)
• Trinidad And Tobago
18 Sep 08
I'm somehow adverse to this ideaa of artificial tanning. Its so much better to sit or lie in the natural sun and get a tan. Then again, I live in the tropics where this is natural. As far as I know there are extremely few or no tanning salons here in Trinidad at all. So I just prefer the natural tan with the sea close by and the wind in your hair.
@fiona08 (454)
• United States
18 Sep 08
That is very interesting. I know I'd be depressed as he11 if I had to live in such a dreary setting! I have a tanning bed for the same reason, actually, and I get a lot more hours of sun where I live. I do think it causes a conflict between Palin and McCain, because of his cancer survival. I wonder how they'll handle this difference? Some psychiatrists recommend a few minutes in a tanning bed to avoid the winter blues. Some dermatologists even recommend them to clear up some acne problems. I think the amount of time spent in a tanning bed is key to its being a positive or negative. But now that I have given my opinion on tanning beds, let me just snidely say, I am sure she has it because she is soooooo vain. I mean, its all about the looks with female politicians, at least with the conservative ones. lol JK people! Don't throw things at me.
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@Shar19 (8231)
• United States
18 Sep 08
Very interesting. What would happen to her if her tanning bed doesn't work one day? Will she go back into her depression? I wonder is she takes any meds for her condition? I just hope she realizes how serious the consequences are from tanning beds. I've had basal cell carcenoma already and I'm in my 30's, and it was from using a tanning bed in my 20's. Funny thing is I only used the tanning bed for five days. Just goes to show how dangerous they really are.
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@MOMMASAM (1004)
• United States
18 Sep 08
well, she's a grown woman who can make up her own mind. don't forget, if elected she will be spending much more time out of alaska. also annie, i applaude your statements that you were not making light or whatever on your discussion. so many times, i see people just dump it all out there and stand back and watch. it was nice to read that you did not wish to turn this into a entertainment tonight, hollywood gossip discussion. i applaude you for doing this.
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