Did you know that you are "paid" to live in Alaska?

United States
September 26, 2008 2:17pm CST
My husband has a cousin who lives in Alaska & she was telling him that each citizen who resides in Alaska is given money just to live there. I checked it out on the internet & it's true! It's called the PFD (Permanent Fund Dividend). The amount was $1654 in 2007 for every man, woman & child. You have to be a resident for at least a year, live there year round & deal with the nasty weather. The heating bills are higher as are food & other goods. Of course salaries are higher there but for most it just balances out with this additional money. The amount varies from year to year & the money comes from investments made on oil royalties. Would you live in a state like Alaska given this information? How much would it take to live in a tough state like Alaska? It looks gloriously beautiful but I really don't think I could take the cold weather. I've always wanted to visit but live there...I don't know if you could pay me enough. There's just no way a weenie like myself could deal with the cold weather & all the snow. But gosh it's so pretty! Hmmm...
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• United States
26 Sep 08
well, i live in upstate new york, and at times during the winter it feels like i am living in alaska! :) but seriously, i would not live there. with the 6 months or however long of dark- isn't that where it is? that would not be much fun. i have read articles that many people living in alaska are depressed much of the time. wonder why.
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• United States
26 Sep 08
I think it is dark there for 3 months or so all the time. I can't imagine that. I'd be tired most of the time. I would think that depression would be common there because of that. Or at least Seasonal Affective Disorder.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
26 Sep 08
It's typically 61 days and yes depression is very common there. There was an article a few weeks ago about Sarah Palin having a tanning bed in the governor's mansion to get the health benefits of sunlight during the dark months. Tanning beds also help to prevent the depression associated with lack of sunlight.
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@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
27 Sep 08
It's true, lack of sunlight causes depression. It's called Seasonal Affective Disorder. The site is at http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f00/web3/dyar3.html A few lines about it: Seasonal Affective Disorder was recognized as a form of depression less than twenty years ago. Before it was just assumed that the person suffering from it was especially irritable and just needed an "attitude adjustment." Sometimes a disorder is not diagnosed as a medical condition because it is not clearly understood. Fortunately, most types of depression have finally been extensively researched, now defined as medical conditions and treated as serious illnesses should be. An individual can judge the best path to recovery only if he or she has knowledge of the wide range of existing treatments. Depression is one of many typical ailments in life, yet another way in which our bodies let us know that there is a situation that needs to be attended to. Education is a positive step toward the light of hope and happiness in life and it is important that people learn about the condition and its treatments. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_affective_disorder Seasonal affective disorder (SAD), also known as emothianl winter, is a mood disorder in which people who have normal mental health throughout most of the year experience depressive symptoms in the winter or, less frequently, in the summer[1], repeatedly, year after year. The US National Library of Medicine notes that "some people experience a serious mood change when the seasons change. They may sleep too much, have little energy, and crave sweets and starchy foods. They may also feel depressed. Though symptoms can be severe, they usually clear up."[2] The condition in the summer is often referred to as Reverse Seasonal Affective Disorder, and can also include heightened anxiety.[3] There are many different treatments for classic (winter-based) seasonal affective disorder, including light therapies with bright lights, anti-depression medication, ionized-air reception, cognitive-behavioral therapy and carefully-timed supplementation of the hormone melatonin. There are many different treatments for classic (winter-based) seasonal affective disorder, including light therapies, medication, ionized-air reception, cognitive-behavioral therapy and carefully timed supplementation of the hormone melatonin. Bright light treatment is common although up to 69% of patients find it inconvenient and as many as 19% of patients stop use because of this.[5] A specially designed lamp, many times brighter than normal indoor lighting, is placed near the sufferer, and has proven to be effective at doses of 2500 - 10,000 lux.[10] Most treatments use 30-60 minute treatments, however this varies depending on the situation. The sufferer sits a prescribed distance, commonly 30-60 cm, in front of the box with her/his eyes open but not staring at the light source.[5] Many patients use the light box in the morning, however it has not been proven any more effective than any other time of day.[10] Discovering the best schedule is essential. Dawn simulation has also proven to be effective; in some studies, there is an 83% better response when compared to other bright light therapy.[5] When compared in a study to negative air ionization, bright light was proven to be 57.1% effective vs. dawn simulation, 49.5%.[14] Patients using light therapy can experience improvement during the first week, but increased results are evident when continued throughout several weeks.[5] Most studies found it effective without use year round, but rather as a seasonal treatment lasting for several weeks until frequent light exposure is naturally obtained.[4] SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor) antidepressants have proven effective in treating SAD. Bupropion is also effective as a prophylactic.[6] Effective antidepressants are fluoxetine, sertraline, or paroxetine.[4][15] Both fluoxetine and light therapy are 67% effective in treating SAD according to direct head-to-head trials.[4] Negative air ionization, involving the release of charged particles into the sleep environment, has also been found effective with a 47.9% improvement.[14] Depending upon the patient, one treatment (ie. lightbox) may be used in conjunction with another therapy (ie. medication).[4] Modafinil may be also an effective and well-tolerated treatment in patients with seasonal affective disorder/winter depression [16] Treatment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_affective_disorder Alfred J. Lewy of Oregon Health and Science University in Portland, OHSU, and others see the cause of SAD as a misalignment of the sleep-wake phase contra the period of the body clock, circadian rhythms out of synch, and treat it with melatonin in the afternoon. Correctly timed melatonin administration shifts the rhythms of several hormones en bloc.[17]
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@MH4444 (2161)
• United States
26 Sep 08
Good discussion. I think it would be really hard. Not only is it cold, but dark as well. I think every state should be given dividends. Hmmmm...another cause perhaps? I think so.
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@MH4444 (2161)
• United States
30 Sep 08
LOL That's probably true if it's very hot where you live. Take care.
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• United States
27 Sep 08
I know where I live we should be given dividends for putting up with the heat & wind!
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@loved1 (5328)
• United States
26 Sep 08
You should go to Alaska for a couple of weeks and see how quickly you fall in love with that beautiful state. I have a cousin who lives there and went to visit her several years ago. If you ask the people who live in Alaska they will tell you it is not any harder to live there than to live anywhere else. They simply have different challenges than we do. I think I would love to live in Alaska if it was not so far away from all of my friends and family.
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@loved1 (5328)
• United States
26 Sep 08
The view is unbelieveable. You cannot imagine unless you have seen it for yourself. Pictures, no matter how good, don't do it justice. My cousin says they don't really get a lot more snow than we do here in Iowa, but the snow falls straight down so they don't have the drifting. She also says they don't have the problems with ice storms like we do.
• United States
26 Sep 08
The distance from family would be a big barrier. I think every state/city has something negative that you have to deal with. The Alaskans just deal with the snow & cold weather because that's the way it is. Where I am it's the summer heat & wind & the tornado threats. There is something everywhere. I probably would fall in love with the scenery there. It looks spectacular.
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9 Mar 09
I lived in Alaska for 6 years. The only reason that I left was when I got married. My hubby is from Scotland, hence the move! Otherwise, I would never want to live anywhere else. You either love it or you hate it. It gets into your blood and you just reel in all the beauty that surrounds you. They do pay you, if you live there from January 1st to January 1st. It is a great way for parents to send their kids to college. I love the cold weather but most of all, I love the wildlife. There's just nothing like taking your husky for a walk up the trail near your home in the morning and get greeted by a black bear, munching on the skunk cabbage or watching the deer in the meadow. Living in Alaska brought out the poet in me. My brother still lives there so we can always go back for visits. To me, it is the best place on earth. I know for a fact that I would never consider living in the lower 48 again.
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• United States
9 Mar 09
While I love to see the snow, I'm not much for cold weather. But the wildlife & the scenery would do it for me. You make it sound absolutely spectacular!
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
26 Sep 08
It is something like Vancouver, B.C. around the coast but a bit cooler and it rains all the time. We went there on a cruise and it was nice there and they told us that it was unusual. I loved Vancouver, but I suffer from Seasonable affected disorder and I got tired and depressed all the time and I prefer the warmer weather, so where I live now in Winnipeg, MB where where it is either very hot in the summer or very cold in the winter. It would be a nice place to visit though, and the scenery is so beautiful.
• United States
20 Oct 08
I have recently been looking to live in Alaska. I don't care about the state payment. I love the beautiful scenery and I like the simple life. The hard part is finding a job and a place to live .
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• United States
21 Oct 08
Alaska looks to be a very beautiful state. I wonder if it is hard to find work there? Whatever you do, good luck!
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
27 Sep 08
I wonder if the military people who are stationed there get paid as well. I mean 1647 isn't much, but if you have 2 or 3 kids that adds up!
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
27 Sep 08
/agreed Well, I don't know if the state pays the military, but the military has was is called Cost Of Living Allowance, that I *think* they pay in Alaska (I know they pay in Hawaii and when you leave the US). It isn't much though. As far as I know it is only for the enlisted person and like $5-$6 a day (I am sure it goes up with rank) So that's $150 extra or so a month. You do get more for housing when you go up to Alaska too. I think that starts out at like $1600 and goes through $3K a month. Of course when you are only making like $1500 a month after taxes you NEED the housing allowance! When my ex husband was in the Army he was an E4 with 7 years in and he figured that with the number of hours he actually worked, he made pennies on the dollar.
• United States
27 Sep 08
My nephew was stationed there for a brief period of time. I don't know if they get paid any better there. The military folks should get paid 10 times what they get now in my opinion.
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
15 Oct 08
Well seeing as I am more sensitive to the heat and don't feel the cold, Alaska sounds like a wonderful place for me. I can't bear the heat, mind you in the UK we have the humidity which sometimes is unbearable for me. You can easily warm up when it's cold but it's hard trying to cool down when it's hot. I've always said I would love to hibernate in the Summer and come out in the Winter. Maybe I should have been born in Alaska instead of the UK, I wonder if my life would have been much happier? I'll never know but I enjoyed reading about it and it sounds great to me, I'll start packing my bags now! I only wish I found out about it during Summer months!
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
15 Oct 08
Put the heat sensitivity down to my thyroid! Your collie picture delights others as well! I am sorry for your loss, trouble with animals they become part of the family and you get so attached to them. It's like losing a family member.
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• Craig, Alaska
22 Mar 09
this is a view of alaska - I live in the southeast area for now. hoping to move the south central area. City called Anchorage this year or next year.
I like warm weather in alaska in summer time. its up north of me gets up to 90f degrees. I live in southeast alaska where summers are only in the 70's F degrees. I hate it. I'm hoping to move to Anchorage where its warmer in the summers. the only down side I see living there again is freezing winters. I'll have to dress warmer then I do here. It only gets 20's and up most of the time down here in southeast, Ak. I am in capital of Alaska called Juneau,AK.
• United States
15 Oct 08
I'm with you, I can't stand the heat & yet I live in Texas! You go where the jobs are I guess. Still, for it to be as cold as it is in Alaska & for such a long time - I don't know if I could handle it. You do what you have to! Thanks for the previous post about the collie avatars. Unfortunately, my collie passed on unexpectedly last year. He was a wonderful companion & I miss him dearly. I love to see his picture every time I'm on My Lot!
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@patgalca (18174)
• Orangeville, Ontario
26 Sep 08
If I went to live there it would probably end my marriage! My husband is a golf nut. The golf season here in Ontario is at least 8 months long! I would move to Alaska just to get my husband to stop golfing. I don't think I could handle the cold temperatures. I deal with enough of it here in Ontario. I have fibromyalgia so the cold is a killer to me. The ideal place for us fibromites is Arizona, from what I've heard. But that means hubby would be golfing year round! On the financial end, if it balances out then there really is no incentive to move there, is there?
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• United States
26 Sep 08
You could golf maybe 3 months out of the year in Alaska I'm guessing. You must get enough cold weather up there in Ontario. I also have fibromyalgia, albiet quite mild but it's still no fun. There's just no way I could deal with really cold weather - it's tough on anyone! True, if it balances out financially because the cost of living is so high, what's the incentive?
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
11 Oct 08
I'd heard about the checks everyone in Alaska get, mostly from people who are singing the praise of their Governor, Sarah Palin. Gee, if Governor Rendell, who is already popular but not quite 80%, gave us all money to live in Pa. he'd probably have a super-high approval rating too! Of course, I've heard that Palin's has been taking a dip lately. Seriously, I've also heard Alaska is very beautiful and I'd love to visit there someday but it would have to be in the summer. Annie
• Craig, Alaska
22 Mar 09
I am a Alaskan and I can tell you we don't get paid that money yearly because of some governor. If you looked on line about the history of why and where the Permenant dividend Fund started. you'd learn a lot. Read into it if your interested otherwise quit making assumptions why we get paid.
26 Sep 08
really that is odd lol do they really need to pay people to live in their country! from what i have seen it looks a beautifull place tho
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27 Sep 08
i like it!
@cream97 (29087)
• United States
24 Mar 09
Hi, collieluv28! Yes, I heard about this a couple of months ago! My husband found this out from someone he knew. He told me that he may stay up there one day. He would like to get paid just to live there. Do they get this money every month or when? All I can say is, bring out the heated blankets I would love to try out this cold weather. I can't stand the heat!
• United States
24 Mar 09
I guess I'm a pain in the neck - I don't like the heat or the cold! Give me something in between! I'm not sure how they pay you but I think you get paid yearly, probably with tax returns or something. Sure looks like a beautiful state.
• United States
26 Sep 08
They have the same thing in England don't they? It's called something else though. I hate the cold weather. I'd have to have the heat running constantly on 80 degrees so that $1,654 a year just wouldn't be worth it.
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• United States
26 Sep 08
Gosh, I don't know if England has something like that or not. Would it be just for the British peoples or Americans/immigrants to the country? I'd have the heat up all the time in Alaska. I just cannot imagine.
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@agrant10 (1476)
• United States
22 Oct 08
This is neat. I wish I had that PFD in my state. The children also receive one. You can not get any better than that.
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
27 Sep 08
i never know about this before and this is a new knowledge for me... is it really true that they have to pay you just to live in alaska??? that means the country is really bad then... or it must be really rich and very generous towards its citizens... i've never been there before... hope i will have the chance to visit the country in the future... take care and have a nice day...
• United States
27 Sep 08
It's true. I think the state is rich because of oil & not very populated at all. I'm sure they are trying to lure people to live there with this incentive.
@shana123 (2095)
• India
27 Sep 08
Wow i feel like vacating to that state , what you mean by bad whether is it very cold over there?? will i get a job as quick i move on to that place lol.. hey 1000 plus dollars is an huge amount which is not that easy to earn and well are they paying for a month or per year ? Here in my place the payment for the job is not that high and the employment is much lower now a days than before so i need to vacate to some other place soon after my studies , i should keep Alaska in my mind lol..
• United States
27 Sep 08
I believe it's quite cold in Alaska & they get lots of snow. Also it stays dark 24/7 for some time (I think a previous poster said 61 days). It would be tough to handle. Looks beautiful though.
@lizzyt2007 (1312)
• Craig, Alaska
22 Mar 09
money is flowing more in AK than anyother state.  - Money is in Alaska. I live here, and I am not just talking about our permenant dividend fund. we got more work and oil jobs oppurtunities here.
I myself live in Alaska. I've lived in this state all my life. I actually been thinking about it for years to move out of this state due to the cold winters and prices so high. Who cares about our dividend we get once a year. that's not why I stay here. its cause we don't have as many strict Laws here like the other states do. We don't have counties, and not as much taxes. we have cities taxes in most towns yes except Anchorage, Ak. but we don't have state taxes, or county taxes. I feel like us alaskans living up here are more free to live our lives we want to then any other state. I like going to washington state to visit but I will never move there or any other state. People who have never lived in alaska don't know the privalages we get and the true freedom we get in this state. You like warmer weather fine. but don't let that be your only reason not to check out this beautiful wonderful state I call "ALaska".
• United States
24 Mar 09
I never even considered that you have more freedoms in the beautiful state of Alaska. That sounds pretty good. I'm glad that you enjoy living there. I would really like to visit the state someday.
• United States
27 Sep 08
I have a good friend that moved up to Dillingham, Alaska. She had told me that as well. She used to live in South Dakota and is now working for the library up there. She loves it up there. That would be a good incentive for me to move there, but I don't like the extreme conditions that are up there. It would be way too cold plus it is so remote and the towns are so small. (except for places like Fairbanks and Juneau).
• United States
27 Sep 08
The remoteness would be tough to handle. I don't think many family members would visit us up there! But they don't visit us in our little hamlet in Texas either.
@NrgDfenZ (1810)
• Belgium
27 Sep 08
That's nice :D Is it on a yearly base or a monthly base ? :D I would enjoy it if they paid me in my country :D Have a nice day..
• United States
27 Sep 08
This money is paid on a yearly basis. It would be nice, wouldn't it?
27 Sep 08
I've never heard of that! I'm not sure though if I would live there, from reading what people have been saying about 3 - 6 months of darkness and the freezing cold, however beautiful it is. I agree with what someone else says about different challenges as well. I live in London and am used to there being 24 hour transport, somewhere always open if you want to eat and lots to do. It can be busy and seem like everyone's rushing though and it does have downsides. My boyfriend lives in a small farming village and there's something like 2 buses a day and you have to drive for miles to get anywhere. I guess it's just what you're used to or what you have grown up with.
• United States
27 Sep 08
My daughter is 12 years old & thinks it would be way cool to live in London. I'd love to visit but it's a long way from home! I think you do get used to putting up with what others would find unimaginable.