“Hate speech” verses “free speech”

United States
September 26, 2008 3:27pm CST
“Hate speech” verses “free speech” is easy to define. All over the United States, so-called “progressive” individuals and groups berate the USA and Israel and in the process tell outrageous lies about both countries. That’s called “free speech.” When others, including me, tell the truth about the threat of radical Islam, that’s labeled “hate speech” by many of these “progressives.” But what is “hate speech” and what is “Islamophobia”? When I describe the threat presented by radical Islam, I quote chapter and verse from the Koran and authoritative classical Islamic sources. When I describe the worldwide campaign of Islamist hate indoctrination against the West, and the mind-numbing mass violence committed and glorified by radical Islamists, I am relaying facts that have been published by print and electronic media outlets all over the world. Do some of the facts about Islamist supremism manifest “hatefulness?” Certainly. However, it’s not my fault that the truth about Islamist supremacist teachings and edicts is that they promote hate. I wish they didn’t. But wishing doesn’t make it so (contrary to the belief of the New York Times). The Koran explicitly tells Muslims to hate (terrorize, subdue, oppress, and slaughter) the unbeliever until Islam is supreme in the world: "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I am with you. Give firmness to the Believers. I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.’" (Koran 8:12) The Koran explicitly preaches that Christians and Jews are descended from monkeys and apes. In the more than 13 centuries since the emergence of Islam, this strict Islamic dogma has never been abrogated, amended or ameliorated. It is the Koran that is guilty of “hate speech.” I merely am the messenger exposing this hate. Which brings us to “Islamophobia” and “radical Islamophobes.” According to the dictionary, the suffix “-phobe” comes from the Latin phobos, which means “fearing.” Do I fear radical Islam? You bet. Do any of these locales ring a bell? London subways. Madrid train stations. Bali night clubs. Beslan elementary school. They are all locations of horrendous terrorist atrocities committed by radical Islamists, with scores of civilian fatalities and hundreds maimed. I can name hundreds of other locales, from all over the world. If fearing radical Islamist terror makes me an “Islamophobe,” then I am an “Islamophobe” in its healthiest manifestation. In light of recent history, I submit that it would be (at best) foolhardy to be otherwise.
2 people like this
7 responses
@Vladilyich1 (1454)
• Canada
28 Sep 08
Political correctness has now gone completely over the top. I believe it was you that published an article where the CIA can't use certain words like "jihad" in their reports. I do know that Islamofascism has already overrun the U.K. and is currently making major inroads into Canada.
• United States
28 Sep 08
i am aware of this all we can do now is pray its program to overrule the world seems to be working and only because the powers that be wont admit it is the aim of Islam to rule the world !
1 person likes this
• United States
28 Sep 08
Someone from Indonesia Posted a discussion here on myLot about how Muslims in her area were forcing restaurants to close from Sunrise to Sunset during ramadan.
2 people like this
@3cardmonte (5098)
26 Sep 08
people are so very quick to forget about the kind and caring muslims that never do any harm to anyone. Of course we should fear radical muslims in the same way we should fear radical catholics, it is not the term muslim that is a danger, it is the term radical.
• United States
26 Sep 08
we wouldnt if those (so called kind and caring Muslims) would speak out loudly againt the murders committed in the name of thier God since they dont then if you are not against them then one must assume you are for them
26 Sep 08
no, we musnt. Even if these kind and caring muslims did speak out against the others,what would it achieve? nothing. Hard line terrorists will not be put off by anybody.
• United States
27 Sep 08
Yeah, lets all start speaking out about those evil, lol, Catholics who are blowing things up all over the world. As a Christin you better believe if Christians were causing as much pain and suffering in the world like Islam is than I would not only be taking a long hard look at my Holy Book as well as speaking out. If Christian women were being treated the way most Muslim women are treated I would find another religion or have none at all. All you people do is point your finger at others and bring up things that you were taught happened in the past. America is not at war in Iraq to spread Christianity. We are there to spread Democracy and to prevent the cult of Islam from spreading it's hate all over the world, two different things.
@flowerchilde (12534)
• United States
27 Sep 08
Well, in the book of rev/apoc, the last great, and greatest genocide (yet to come!) will be "beheadings"... always there is the war of good and evil.. an earmark of latter days is when evil is called good and good evil.. Increasingly the U.S. and Israel is seen as the world's evil (lots of propaganda pumped out to that end).. and Islam, well, a religion of peace..
• United States
27 Sep 08
but we both know it is the opposite way round as for latter daybeheadings do you know this is one of islams favourite way of killing for instance remember the pearlman murder on tv several years ago?
1 person likes this
• United States
27 Sep 08
...exactly! ...was the first thing I thought of when I heard of the (barbaric) beheadings of Daniel Pearlman and that other poor guy shortly after that.. and others..
@spriggan (169)
• Australia
28 Sep 08
you seem to forget iraqi innocent people killed everyday because of christian non muslim america's greed on oil!!
1 person likes this
• Egypt
26 Sep 08
very amazing!! people are asking muslims to be polite and at the same time themselves are insulting them in every topic and every where!! is it the freespeach you are talking about?!!
1 person likes this
• United States
26 Sep 08
here in America as long as we stay free and do not allow what has happened in the UK to happen here
• Egypt
26 Sep 08
america?! the state of terrorism?! by what rights america have to war any country without any reason?! the real terrorism who destroy a whole country for fake reasons and it is abvoius for the whole world ;) so if you are really a free-speach person then talk about the terrorism of america instead of talking about radical things ;) i see only from all your topics that you are againest islam no more!
@Makro74 (591)
29 Sep 08
Revdauphnee Just curious, what exactly has happened in the UK that if you remain free will not happen in the US?
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
26 Sep 08
You're asking for it with this post, aren't you? But you're right nonetheless. When I was in high school, my boyfriend's best friend once leaned over in the car and whispered in my ear, "You know I have to kill you." Then he laughed. But he explained that his holy book told him that if he could not covert me, he had to kill me. Many people in the US converted to Islam back in the 60s and 70s and many continue to do so today. They'll tell you that it's a peaceful religion. Still, when you have a good friend with whom you can really talk about the differences in religion, they will admit to other things. Once such friend of mine told me that although most Muslims are peaceful, they secretly applaud when the extreme ones perform jihad because they know that puts the world one step closer to what it's supposed to be - completely Muslim. They know, even if they won't participate in helping it happen, that one day the only people left will be Muslim. And that's a scary thing...
1 person likes this
• United States
26 Sep 08
that sure is scary and it will happen if we continue down the path we are on America needs to wake up!
27 Sep 08
great your suggestion to this is great i will look to that and give a thought
@spriggan (169)
• Australia
28 Sep 08
hate speech is when you lie to justify your hate i see you speak about qur'an but forgetting about "quoting" from it,to show you're not lying. darwing says all humanity is from apes "and nobody talks" what does it mean?
@suspenseful (40314)
• Canada
27 Sep 08
I am with you. This is not hate speech. It is the truth. The truth is often regarded as hate speech because they want us to be blind and yet when Islam becomes the dominant belief in the World and we get persecuted for our beliefs, who will they blame? The messenger for not warning us soon enough. I remember those old movies like Delta Force, The Green Berets, and others that showed how dangerous the radicals in what ever country were. Then they started to show movies where the enemy was given a symnpathetic portrayal and that was the beginning of the end. We have to see the enemy for who he was, not the politically correct view.
• United States
27 Sep 08
thank you at least your eyes are open unfortunately many of our fellow citizens remain blind to the facts I pray to God they wake up or revelation will be fullfilled and we will be ruled by the anti christ and persecuted for our belifs
• United States
27 Sep 08
They have to call it "Hate speach" and call us "radical Islamaphobs". Don't forget anyone who spreads the truth about Islam is a Zionest in their eyes. It's their only defense to try to prevent us from spreading the truth. The truth sets people free, Muslims don't want to be free, they want us all to be slaves to Allah.
@Makro74 (591)
27 Sep 08
Unfortunately, you are immensely ignorant - I have seen so many of your posts and they mostly lead to one thing - your hate for Islam - a prejudice against a certain way of life. You seem to forget the rational Muslim does not beleive and the Quran does not support some of things you imply about Islam - yet you want to pursue a line in your posts that when so 'Islamic' clerics do something wrong (Wrong is wrong in all religions whichever way you slice it!) you collective apply that to the religion of Islam. Christians and Jews and other religions have had similar history. Quite the contrary, Muslims are free, and yes if you follow the teachings of a religion you would be bound by it - except this is not slavery - it is the love of God and his faith that aspires on to be spiritual regardless of which religion they follow. Your technique of responding seems more of subhuman and hatred rather than positive rational dissection of arguments. The fact that you use strong labels eg Slave to Allah and Muhammad beating his wives is bound to ruffle some feathers, and I believe you know this full well and you are bent on inciting this kind to provoke responses, so you can then respond like above. Also I notice your responses to others, which seem to be far more appealing, which leads me to believe you are stereotypical on certain faiths - and God forbid, you are one of those who would create a movement similar to Nazi's in Germany or the Klu Klux Klan targeting a set of people to be hated and subject to atrocities. In this context, before you respond negatively again, I apply the same thought of disgust to the so-called people who call themselves 'Muslim' but have an agenda of killing innocent people just because of who they are. Also, rather than posting ignorant and spiteful posts, Muslims, Hindus, Jews and christians, sikhs are all part of my circle of friends and I firmly believe we are all on this planet together in harmony, freedom to practice what each wants.
• United States
28 Sep 08
Lol, unfortunately you couldn't get through your first sentence without labeling me a "hater" you proved my point and the OPs point. Thank you and welcome to myLot!
• United States
28 Sep 08
"You hate!", "You hate!" that's all we hear and lol, "Islam means peace". I'm simply not feelin any peace brother.