will allah forgive these terrorists who kille so many innocent people in India?

@amirev777 (4117)
India
September 29, 2008 11:47am CST
Hi I am talking of the recent chain of bomb blast that took place in various parts of India including the capital New Delhi.These bom blasts were carried out by Indiam Mujahideen-an Islamic terrorist group in name of 'jihad' to appease allah.but as per quran,allah does not give permission to kill in the holy month of ramazan,off course you can certainly kill after the month has passed.Let me quote an verse from quran: "quran: Chapter 9, Verse 5: “Then when the sacred months have passed, kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and observe the islamic lifestyle, then leave their way free. Verily, allah is Oft forgiving, most merciful.”
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11 responses
• India
29 Sep 08
Islam doesn't allow for killing of innocents. Only killing during a fight with an army is allowed, and then too, you are not allowed to kill children or women. The word Jihad is quite often misinterpreted. It means 'struggle' rather than a 'Holy War' as you are told. A struggle could be anything and of any nature. You trying to keep your thoughts from wandering away is also Jihad, you trying to concentrate on Allah is also Jihad and you trying to read the Quran is also Jihad. It doesn't refer to any holy war. Of course the terrorists who bomb innocent people do not follow the Quran. They only use Islamic principles, misinterpret them and spread hatred to further their own quest for power. This doesn't have anything to do with true Islam.
• India
29 Sep 08
Is there absolutely no way in the entire world that a person can respond to something without reference to his religion or beliefs? Why should you bother about my beliefs at all? What Hinduism are you talking about? The Hinduism of Godhra or the Hinduism of Orissa and Karnataka? Is this your definition of Hinduism - to go and kill the innocents just because they may not share the same faith as you do? Hinduism has only one real threat and that is from the Hindutva forces - the people who believe in kill kill and kill. For thousands of years Hinduism has survived peacefully and co-existed with other religions. Never did it talk about we-you divide that you talk of now. Why should Hinduism feel threatened? Because of Christians and Muslims? If Hinduism cannot treat its own kin as equals, it has absolutely no right to talk about anti-conversions.
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@amirev777 (4117)
• India
29 Sep 08
dear siddhart, you are heavily inclined towards islam-nothing wrong with it-only our ancestors and those who have misinterpreted our Bhagwad Gita and Upanishads are responisble for your phyche- probably I though you must be buddist,bcoz of ur name-its Ok then-u will never respect Hinduism-but if u r Hindu-plz be aware-if Hinduism is ever be going to be wiped off in Hindustan-it will first be in North-Eastern state,just next after jammu and kashmir.If you want some more information you ca check the website of 'hinduunity'-just typre these words in any search engine.I cannot give you the exact link to that site coz it is prohibited as per TOS of Mylot.
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@valmiki9 (1171)
• India
30 Sep 08
I want to add thet in post independant India some pseudo political sadhus have come up as religious Gurus and they advocte Guaring Hinduism. Hinduism does not need any protection from any one even when there is one true believer in god exists he is a devout Hindu.That is why there is no mention of conversions in Hinduism. Instead of investigating who committed the ooffence Government should time in finding out as to who provokes and spreads anti communal teachings it would stop much of the carnage.Find the mullah, find the swamy and find the preist who does this and you have ended terrorism.
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@ramangill (1479)
• India
29 Sep 08
i dont know allah will forgive or not, but i ll definitely forgive everyone
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@amirev777 (4117)
• India
29 Sep 08
hi, u r the most benevolent-every one shud start worshiping u instead of blood thirsting gods-i was just joking-hope u r not offended!
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@ramangill (1479)
• India
29 Sep 08
are no no,, well by the way,,my religion is yet to be launched,,hahaha i am giving special offers for the people who would like to join my religion in prelaunch,,lol like they would be given chance to write my religious book,so they will also be remembered for years,,haha m also joking, religions are the biggest wall in between man and god(himslef). thanks
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@valmiki9 (1171)
• India
30 Sep 08
I think the very permission to kill a non believer in islam is wrong. Thsi permission has given room for corruption and certain people take advantage to provoke others to do the acts of terrorism in the name of Islam. Indirectly it says that convert every to amuslim and if he refuses to conversion then kill him.I cannot imgine of a cruel god.God is kindness incarnate.
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@amirev777 (4117)
• India
30 Sep 08
dear valmiki, you say that there is no threat to Hinduism and Hindustan.Many people were such when our Hindustan lost a big chunk in form of pakistan-even then many people kept repeating the same thing-then we lost another piece in name on bangladesh-and it still continues,the latest example is Kashmir and the exodus of Kashmiri pandits from their own home land.So many people still continue to die,only yesterday there were more bomb blasts-if you want to know how Hindus have suffered in their own motherland-plz visit Hinduunity website.
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@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
29 Sep 08
Well I am not Muslim but I do know that the Quran says if you have killed one innocent person than it is as if you have killed all of humanity.
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• India
30 Sep 08
Well said and true! Islamophobia must stop and the only way is through understanding of Islam.
• India
30 Sep 08
killing is a criminal act. even if you kill any person as per your scriptures. scriptures have no validity in india. constitution of india do not grant any scripture any special status. Now killing any day is criminal. there is nothing called holy month or holy day or holy hours. lets be very clear. if you kill, you will be chased around by law and be killed like a stray dog or pig. its only people who have no concern for humanity and are thouroughly brainwashed will engage in killing innocent onlookers. indian mujahideen is one such group of murderers. as per their scriptures, i think allah will forgive them, because they killed kafirs. but if you believe in humanity, killing is sin. i hope those inteligent ones will see the difference in belief and approach.
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• United States
29 Sep 08
Your really not making any sense. I think you should have a little knowledge before you interpret the Quran like that. First of all, it is not permitted to kill any type of civillians while in a sacred month or anytime afterwards. In an Islamic war, civillians are prohibited in being harmed in any way. There really isnt an Islamic war today anyways. Also what your are saying is wrong. Where did you get the words "Islamic Lifestyle". There is no word like that in the Quran at all. You are absolutely wrong, and this is why people think Islam the way they do because from people who dont know what they are talking about lol. Why are you asking the question will Allah Forgive them? Killing yourself is forbidden. Killing civillians is also strictly forbidden. How would any of us have the answer to that?? Only Allah himself knows.
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@amirev777 (4117)
• India
29 Sep 08
hi platinum, my posts will never make any sense to you-coz ur wearing that gladiators outfit-it is evident in that image that u have posted in your profile.interpreting quran is not easy-leave alone any texts written in those times coz there were neither any notebooks,nor pen or pencil-leave alone PC's,laptops,hard disks or external storage device that we have today.All the information was passed from word of mouth-now if you have studied science-you know so many million brain cells die very day and many million cells are newly formed every day-this knowledge or piece of information is stored in these brain cells and unless you renew this every day,you will alwayz lose some information every day.So considering just 0.01% information was lost every day by the time it was passed to the new generations -the text was completely different from the original one.now if allah reads the present quran-he will certainly ponder if this is the same quran he had got it written hundreds of years ago!
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• United States
5 Oct 08
amirev777 what he is wearing is paint ball gear not a gladiators outfit. Sorry but paint ball is a lot of fun. I used to do it myself.
30 Sep 08
I can't say that I believe in Allah or any other religious figures, but if he was to exist then I don't see how he could forgive such evil acts.
• Pakistan
30 Sep 08
Allah shall forgive sins after repentance but sins which r committed against him .He wont forgive sins committed against human race [Muslims and non Muslims all].for forgiveness from those sins sinner must apologies the person he hurt and then repent in front of Allah .
@XiaXueYi (85)
• Singapore
30 Sep 08
What kind of silly, brainless, propagandanistic 'blasphemy' is this? This sort of discussion is nothing more than a front for people to pretend like they are teachers/gurus/prophets for their religion and doing conversion/'education' en masse. Wake up! myLot should not be used thus. And whoever advocates their religion killing innocent people in the guise of Jihad or whatever nonsense should really go face the wall and reflect/meditate on themselves. We have enough nonsense in this broken-down world as it is, we do not need religion, and "people acting in the sacred name of religion/god/whatever" to give us further problems! Pfft. Christians or Muslims or whatever, I can't be bothered. But one thing is CERTAIN : KILLING PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO LIVE A PROPER LIFE WHEN YOU'RE NO LESS SINFUL OR NO MORE HOLY THAN OTHER PEOPLE, YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE CURSED TO DAMNATION, NOT INNOCENT PEOPLE!
@arthi_88 (1516)
• India
30 Sep 08
No way Allah will forgive them!I am a hindu but i have read quran and not a single page in the book mention giving permission to mass slaughtering of innocent people in the name of religions....NO WHERE... IT DEPENDS ON YOU HOW YOU EXPLAIN A VERSE TO YOURSELF..WHAT IS MEANT BY "DISBELIEVERS" IS PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD AND NOT WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN ANY ON NAME OF GOD OR ISLAM.....AND EVEN IF IT IS WRITTEN HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY KILLING OF SO MANY INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR RELIGION...BEING A HUMAN IS FIRST PRIORITY RATHE THAN BEING A BELIEVER...
@amirev777 (4117)
• India
1 Oct 08
then how do you interpret this verse from quran-pplz dont tell me this does not exist:Chapter 9, Verse 5: “Then when the sacred months have passed, kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and observe the islamic lifestyle, then leave their way free. Verily, allah is Oft forgiving, most merciful.”-now this can be easily interpreted by illiterates whose only source of formal education are madarassas,as permission from their god to kill disbelievers-disbelievers for them will be those who do not believe in islam-they cud be hindus,christians,sikhs,etc. But i must ask you one question-have you read Bhagwad Gita?
@arthi_88 (1516)
• India
1 Oct 08
Ofcourse I have read Bhagwad Gita..MY grandmom made sure we did..And Bhagwad Gita sure doesn't say to kill anybody or hate any religion..Cause it says"Sarva Mongalle Mangalle" Which means good wishes to everybody irrespective of any discrimination...And Gita is mostly a way to lead your life nt preach hinduism..Its one of the most non violent books i have ever read..And listen from my grandmom till now in puja ghar.. But why do you ask?
@arthi_88 (1516)
• India
1 Oct 08
And yes Iagree hindu fundamentalist are still strong and i hate them from the core of my heart..Fundamentalist of any kind are thw worst thing that ever happened to human beings history..
• India
30 Sep 08
I Don't Know But It Is So Terrible To Kill Others Or Hurt Others Which Are Neither Our Countries Or Other Countries The Lord Will Punish Or Not We Don't Know But We Must Not Kill Those Terrorists Because We Are All Humans.According To Human We Don't Have Any Rights To Kill Or Hurt Others In Any Ways Otherwise We Will Be Punished.