Who Would Have Thought....

@ZephyrSun (7382)
United States
October 5, 2008 12:52pm CST
Who would have thought that Ohio would become the new Florida? Lol Sorry Floridians don’t mean to poke fun but, it seems possibly this election cycle Ohio will be the cause of a lot of problems. In 2005 under the Republican ruled body of the Ohio government a law was passed to allow for “same day voting with registration”. Here is actually what the newspaper from my city wrote about it today, “If Mr. Obama wins the presidency Nov. 4 and carries Ohio in the process, at least some of the credit will have to go to Ohio's same-day voting and registering process, ironically established by the Republican-controlled Ohio General Assembly in 2005. The change in law allows Ohio voters this year for the first time to cast absentee ballots, in person or by mail, without a reason. Previous absentee balloting was available only to people in specific circumstances, such as being out of the county at the time of the vote, although generally, people were not asked to prove that they were eligible to vote absentee.” But, now, it seems that Republicans are suddenly against the law that they passed just three years ago. Here is another quote that struck me as odd, “John McClelland, a spokesman for the Ohio Republican Party, said the process doesn't have the safeguards to prevent voter fraud. "Ohio was not set up to be a same-day registration state," Mr. McClelland said. The party has accused Ms. Brunner of showing her partisan colors by not requiring boards of election to allow partisan observers, as are allowed on Election Day.” Here’s the part that really confuses me, “"Though we hear there are safeguards in place to keep these same-day registration voters somewhat separate from other ballots, we're not so sure that's happening, especially in the urban counties," he said.” Any thoughts as to why it was a good law to pass a few years back but, now that McCain is slipping in Ohio it doesn’t appear to be a good law? Do you think that it was only a good law if it was going to help the Republican Party? And, does anyone have any idea why “urban counties” are the areas that really need to be watched for voter fraud? I live in an “urban” area and I have no intention of voting more than once or doing it illegally. I think his comments were a little to general and as an Independent it’s almost an insult to us “urban” dwellers. Any thoughts, comments? http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081005/NEWS09/810050324
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@anniepa (27280)
• United States
7 Oct 08
Well, obviously more "urban" voters voter Democratic than Republican so I guess that makes them far less trustworthy for that reason alone, doesn't it? After all, all Republicans know only Democrats commit voter fraud...lol! It's just another case of hypocrisy, in my opinion. It seemed like a good law because it seemed like it would be more likely to help the GOP but suddenly that doesn't seem to be the case so let's change the law for this election at least! Annie
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
7 Oct 08
Well I thought you would find this interesting. I don't know how other states are but, here in Ohio the suburbs are mostly Republican my dad lives in the suburbs and is a Democrat. He called me last night to tell me that someone came to his house to drop off information about the issues on our ballot this year. The woman asked him if he was still an undecided voter lol. Someone he doesn't know who marked him down as being an undecided voter in Ohio even though he is registered as a Democrat and has only ever voted Republican on a local level. Seems odd doesn't it? lol This will be the first election in a long time that has not had the Republicans in charge of the state so I will be very interested in how Ohio really works out.
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@spalladino (17922)
• United States
5 Oct 08
It's okay to poke fun at us Floridians...we deserve it. This situation reminds me of a problem I used to have with my kids when they were younger. One of them would want to change the rules of a game when it benefitted him/her but, as soon as it didn't, there was a big argument about how bad the new rules were. I also found the comment about urban counties to be insulting the residents of those areas. Does John McClelland think all city folk are dishonest or just some of them?
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
5 Oct 08
I hadn't thought of the children analogy before you posted it but it does sound eactly like my two older children bickering. I don't know I'm sure that Mr. McClelland thinks that all of them are because the urban areas in Ohio are the only Democratic counties in the state You know them Demos, so dishonest lol
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@irishidid (8716)
• United States
5 Oct 08
For myself I prefer the absentee ballot. Kansas has done it for a number of years and I haven't been to a voting booth since. They seem to like to confuse people and move it a lot. Every time they update my registration they have moved it some place else. Isn't there always a state with issues during the election? Florida, Ohio, etc.? Can't people get their sh*t together? Probably not.
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
5 Oct 08
I have never voted with an absentee ballot until I moved to the city my poll station was about 50 feet from my house and now that I'm in the city it's about 30 feet. Maybe next time I move I'll move into the poll station lol I have never really paid much attention until Florida had the hanging chads lol. Until that point I didn't even know what those were and we use to have those types of machines here.
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• Alexandria, Virginia
5 Oct 08
The important thing is everyone vote voter fraud can be dealt with later. Electoral college elects the president not the polls
@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
5 Oct 08
That is very true.
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• United States
6 Oct 08
Hmmmm, sounds like B.O. and the boys are taking advantage of a law that is not supposed to curry favor with any political party, no matter who might benefit. If you have to cheat to win then I hope that Barry doesn't cry foul if he doesn't win because then his italics with Ohio voters might be questioned. I guess they think that people who live in urban areas have something to hide or prove.
@Taskr36 (13923)
• United States
5 Oct 08
Your article is misleading and leaves out critical facts. The Republicans didn't pass a law intended to allow same day voting. That was an interpretation, or misinterpretation, by the Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner. This issue was not intended by those who wrote and passed the legilation involving absentee ballots. "The one-stop voting, which will end Oct. 6, had become a heated partisan issue in the battleground state, with Republicans disputing a legal interpretation by Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner." http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/29/courts_allow_same-day_vote_win.html Here's a more complete version of the story that unlike the Toledo Blade, is not skewed to make the Republicans look bad. "A 2005 bill in the then-Republican state legislature cleared the way for the absentee votes, but the furor over the same-day voting stemmed from a directive that Brunner issued Sept. 11 to local elections boards. Brunner noted that in Ohio, absentee ballots must be ready for distribution 35 days before the election but the voter registration deadline is 30 days before the election. That gap creates an "overlap" period for same-day registration and absentee voting, Brunner said. In court, Republican voters argued Brunner's interpretation was illegal and that a person must be registered for 30 days in order to receive an absentee ballot. The GOP voters also had raised a concern that allowing absentee voting before registrations were verified opened the way for fraud." http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/29/courts_allow_same-day_vote_win.html