Hey ACORN, what do they say about payback???
By ladyluna
@ladyluna (7004)
United States
October 14, 2008 2:10pm CST
Hello All,
I am so glad to see someone do something about this taxpayer funded corrupt organization.
[i]"Buckeye Institute Files State Rico Action Against ACORN
posted October 14, 2008
COLUMBUS - The Buckeye Institute, a Columbus-based think tank, today filed a state RICO action against the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) on behalf of two Warren County voters. The action filed in Warren County Court of Common Pleas alleges ACORN has engaged in a pattern of corrupt activity that amounts to organized crime. It seeks ACORN's dissolution as a legal entity, the revocation of any licenses in Ohio, and an injunction against fraudulent voter registration and other illegal activities.
Plaintiffs Jennifer Miller of Mason, Ohio and Kimberly Grant of Loveland, allege that ACORN's actions deprive them of the right to participate in an honest and effective elections process. They allege fraudulent voter registrations submitted by ACORN dilute the votes of legally registered voters.
"The right to cast a vote that is not diluted by fraudulent votes is a fundamental individual right," Buckeye Institute President David Hansen said." [/i]
Here is the link to the rest of the story:
http://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/article/1207
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1. What say you?
2. Should ACORN be dismantled?
3. What would prevent another ACORN type of group from replacing it?
4. How might we insure that our corrupt Congressional representatives never again force you and I (the taxpayer) to fund an organization like ACORN? Is there any way to keep Congress in check on this type of abuse of the People's trust?
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5 responses
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
14 Oct 08
Ladyluna,
Interesting and informative as usual!
As to number one on the list, my take is that ACORN and entities like them are at the forefront of the economic debaucle we face as a nation today! These "non-profits" not only commit such atrocities as voter registration fraud but were also instrumental in intimidating lending institutions into giving loans to no credit, shakey credit or people who just couldn't pay! I hold these organizations, along with liberal ideals from Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton and congress's bull-headedness as late as three years ago, responsible for the mess this country faces today!
Should they be dismantled? To quote Sarah Palin, "you betya" along with hundreds or thousands of others leaching off the taxpayers misfortunes!
#3) Things like registering to vote are personal responsibilites. If I have to go out and take a card to you and get you to do something you should already take pride in doing yourself, then it only stands to reason I could conviince you who to vote for since you are so apethetic about the process. This type of behavior should be against voter regulations in each state as well as federal. (this about sums up #4 also.)
About keeping congress in check? Line item veto comes to mind.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
15 Oct 08
Greetings Sir Rodney,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this issue.
Yup, I fully concur -- extortion is extortion whether it's being committed by the Mafia or Community Organizers!
"Leaching off of taxpayers". That brings to mind one other thing that really bothers me about ACORN. Which is: Isn't ACORN engaging in prejudicial practices by only registering poor individuals who live in cities? Why isn't ACORN out there registering folks in Petticoat Junction as well as Silicon Valley? Hmmm???
Line item veto, eh? Weilded in a responsible hand it would be a great benefit. Wielded in an irresponsible hand, and living nightmare. I believe that the only way that we could grant the Office of the Presidency the line-item veto is if we had a fourth branch of government consisting of a Citizen Oversight Commission who would be charged with ethics violations, and which would have real teeth!!!
Any thoughts?
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
15 Oct 08
Ladyluna,
I have to say that an ethics and fair practices branch of the government might not be a bad idea. This would include not only the executive branch but the legilative branch also.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
15 Oct 08
Greetings Sir Rodney,
I was thinking that the ethics oversight would encompass all three branches: Executive, Legislative, and Judiciary. And, that it would be populated by rotating nominee volunteers from the fifty states. And, where anonymity would be strictly enforced!
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
16 Oct 08
Not only should ACORN be dismantled... it members and associates should be investigated, charged,and if convicted...imprisoned.
That includes 0bama.
The rest of your questions are simple... follow the Constitution.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
15 Oct 08
1) This is a valuable discussion, but the whole thing just makes me sick. It really reminds me of the kinds of games played in Germany in the late 1920's and early 1930's. History is supposedly recorded so as to not make the same mistakes twice. Is anyone paying attention?
2) Yes, ACORN should be dismantled. I don't remember the name of the political wing of the Brown Shirts, but these folks are it.
3) These groups need to be banned by law. Voter registration should be conducted at the courthouse. People should prove they are responsible enough to vote by at least getting themselves down to register on their own.
4) If these groups are banned, how can Congress fund them? No public money for any political group.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
15 Oct 08
Hello Red,
A little Pepto Bismal, anyone? It turns my stomach as well, Red. That it has gotten this far ... that people don't seem to understand the implications of this ... that they simply don't care ... is gut-churning to say the least!
Thank you for bringing up the Sturm Abteilung (SA for short). I have to admit that when I saw that YouTube video last week of the middle-school boys marching and chanting Obama blather, I was eerily reminded of the SA. Here is the link for anyone who missed it:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/teacher_suspended_in_obama_vid.html
"Under their popular leader, Stabschef Ernst Röhm, the SA grew in importance within the Nazi power structure, initially growing in size to thousands of members. In 1922, the Nazi Party created a youth section, the Jugendbund, for young men between the ages of 14 and 18 years. Its successor, the Hitler Youth, remained under SA command until May 1932."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
I fully concur that someone should be required to demonstrate the competence and capability to get themselves to their county clerk's office, or the local post office to register to vote before we weigh their vision of the future of our nation. Or as the old Saturday Night Live skit used to say: Ya' gotta' wanna!
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
14 Oct 08
1. What say you? Well about time ACORN felt what it was like to be sued. ACORN likes to sue, with Obama's help, everyone that does not play by their rules. Which is apart of my answer to question 2.
2. Should ACORN be dismantled? Yes just as the Mafia was dismantled. ACORN is a political Mafia. One of the ways the Mafia raises money is through extortion, so to does ACORN extort banks and other financial companies with violence if they do not give into their demands.
3. What would prevent another ACORN type of group from replacing it? Nothing really because socialist groups are just like weeds, you can pull up all of them but they will just come back under a new name.
4. How might we insure that our corrupt Congressional representatives never again force you and I (the taxpayer) to fund an organization like ACORN? Simply take away Congressional power to redistribute wealth from individuals to any organization. If Congress does not have the power to pork barrel spend then funding an organization like ACORN with taxpayer money would be impossible.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
15 Oct 08
Hello Gewcew,
I agree that what's good for the goose is definitely good for the gander. I rather like the idea of using their own tactics against them. In fact, wouldn't it be appropo to see to it that similar RICO charges are filed in all 50 states? Silly me, I mean 57 states (doh!).
I like your remedy! Of course the elimination of the culture of pork barrel spending would require some kind of penalty for anyone attempting to add non-disclosed pork to a bill. Perhaps the old 'nickel for each sin' tactic would work. Instead of having Congress toss a nickel into a jar each time they curse, they should be penalized by issuing a 1,000,000.00 deduction in that Rep's state funding. It wouldn't be long before the states would weed out their own scoundrels. Of course, that would require straigt up & down votes on single issues, no more lumping defense spending in with poodle coiffing research.
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