Declaring Martial Law...
By twoey68
@twoey68 (13627)
United States
October 19, 2008 9:29am CST
Recently I've read several articles and heard ppl say that we're heading for martial law. But no one says what exactly martial law is. I've been told it's kind of like in the old movies when Germany had soldiers that went around armed and you had to have certain papers to be out on the streets otherwise they could arrest you and lock you up.
If martial law were declared, what would that mean? Do they let you live in your own home but your not allowed to go out when you want? Do you still get to go to the store or to work? Do they come in your home and seize anything they want? For the ppl that have their own weapons, do they take them away? Do they shut down the internet? What happens to those ppl that don't follow what they say? Do they seperate families?
It's just something I've wondered about...it may or may not happen, but it would be nice to kind of know a little ahead of time if it comes to that.
If martial law is declared, will you fight it or go along and hope it gets over with quickly? What will be your biggest worry if it is declared? Do you think that if it's declared, it'll lead to another Revolutionary War?
[b]~~IN SEARCH OF PEACE WITHIN~~
**AGAINST THE STORMS, I WILL STAND STRONG** [/b]
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20 responses
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
19 Oct 08
Under "Martial law", local police authority, local government, and the military have the authority to do what they decide needs to be done without the nicety of warrants or any legal authority. Nor is there any recourse to any wrongs such authority might inflict upon any citizen. The US CONSTITUTION would be suspended under "Martial law". We'd be very lucky to get it back.
You really don't want "Martial law". History shows such authority is always abused. The government would truely become our enemy in such a situation.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Oct 08
There needs to be recourse to any wrongs done by such authority, including the government. They need to be held accountable for how they treat their own citizens. This is in essence what bullying in preschool becomes. A three year old bullies a classmate in 2008. 30 years later he is head of the military bullying the people who live in the neighborhood he grew up in and he believes it is justified. Something needs to be done about this pronto, serious consequences for despicable behavior should happen while people are still young enough to LEARN.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
19 Oct 08
There has to be an absence of a civilian government for martial law to be declared. Some examples would be during a war or a catastrophic natural desaster. No one can just decide to declare marital law and send troops into the streets. Under martial law the most obvious sign would be the issuing of a curfew and the millitary taking over the justice system. I don't believe that something like this can happen in this country because the citizens would not stand for it and we have the benefits of instant, nationwide communication.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Oct 08
You're right (or I hope you're right) that citizens of this country would not stand for it. It is bad enough when trying to get people to evacuate during threats of close fires lol. some people will not evacuate and I probably would if I could see the fire from my property, but some people are stubborn and that is their land and their home, so I can understand their side too. I am not big on government involvement, I do not feel government has the right to interfere with what private citizens do unless it is a countrywide or safety (terrorist type or natural disaster) threat.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
20 Oct 08
I've always thought the term "mandatory evacuation" was a ridiculous term. Emergency personnel can insist that you leave your property but they can't drag you off, even if it's to save your life. Since we live in Florida we take big storms very seriously and always have more than one plan depending on where it tracks. Our properties and possessions are not more important than our lives.
@theproperator (2429)
• United States
19 Oct 08
I don't know where you've been reading these things, but the chances of the US being put under martial law in the present situation is pretty much zero. Sometimes a city or an area may be put under marital law or a "state of emergency" (similar, but less severe) if there is a catostrophe of some sort (earthquake, hurricane, riots)and the local infrastructure is so damaged that the military must send in reserves to restore order. Think New Orleans in the weeks after Katrina, police and military patrolled the streets and a curfew was mandatory for all citizens in order to controll looting and other crimes, this was a state of emergency. But this is only done in the immediate area of of the disaster and usually only lasts until order is restored and local government can again maintain control.
It would be impossible to actually declare martial law for the whole US, since there would not be enough troops to do so. At worst, it would only be done in "trouble areas"
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Oct 08
While it does make sense to do certain things to keep order, you would also think that normal citizens would want to avoid being attacked or stolen from. If there was looting or burglaries in my town, I would probably stay close to home just to avoid being in the crosshairs of that. It doesn't mean that I would want to be questioned if I had to go out a MILE to my local grocery to pick up some milk, know what I mean? If you have a reasonable answer to 'why are you out', you should be left alone.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
20 Oct 08
I think one of the reasons for the hinting of martial law is due to the unrest with our economic crises and maybe there is a standby for any kind of military action in case all heck breaks out. I mean can you imagine what would happen if our government decides to be dumb enough to pass bills that would cutback or maybe eliminate certain government programs especially SSA type benefits or any other vital needs programs that are really needed by so many people? I mean can you imagine not only the panic, but maybe downright riots that would ensue should the govt cease SSI/disability benefits? The way the economy is going, it could happen
If martial law was instated just in principle too, people might riot against military action that would dictate how one should live...we are supposedly guaranteed all these "freedoms" under the constitution...if martial law was enacted we would no longer be "free" and be no better than countries that are under constant martial law.
@DavidReedy (2378)
• United States
20 Oct 08
Amen. That's straight thinking. I think it goes deeper even, but then I lose my credibility as one of "those" "conspiracy theorists." One fact is certain, the U.S. economy has been manipulated since as early as 1913. I cite as sources "The Reece Committee Report" and "The Creature From Jekyll Island."
DR...
@tyc415 (5706)
• United States
19 Oct 08
That sounds like it would be a nightmare. I would not like something like that at all especially if they felt they could come in my home anytime they wanted to and take whatever they wanted. One time after a hurricane our city was under curfew for weeks on end. My husband is an electrician and he had to have papers on him so he could be out past a certain time in the evening or he would have been arrested. That was bad enough.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
19 Oct 08
A State of Emergency is similar to martial law in that it keeps people who shouldn't be there off the streets and helps to protect personal residences and businesses from looters. Don't worry about extremes like the military coming into your home and taking whatever they wanted...unless it is an invading force that has overtaken the United States in battle. Our own soldiers aren't going to turn against the American people...they're our sons, brothers, neighbors.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
20 Oct 08
catfish that necessarily isn't true that the military hasn't turned against it's own people...what about the shooting deaths of students at Kent State University in the 1970s by the National Guard?
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Oct 08
I could not say what this is, although I can surely say that I would not want MY RIGHTS infringed on. I do not want to have to carry 'certain papers' to be out and about whenever I wanted, I do not want anybody who does not live here in my home to ever have access to my home without my permission AND a court order. I would take offense to ever having to restrict where I went and when, and as far as I know, we still have the right to bear arms in this country. I would likely go get a concealed weapons permit to be honest with you.
My biggest worry is that I'd have to go around following stupid rules for an undeclared period of time without being given a reason that makes sense, and I tend not to do things that don't make any sense.
@DavidReedy (2378)
• United States
20 Oct 08
Research REAL ID and separately research current applications of RFID.
@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
26 Jan 09
I just hope that it never comes to that. I know I am not wanting to face reality about it but I just had enough war that I wouldn't want to have to face something like that happening to be told when and where you could go or what to do. Not something I wanna do.
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
19 Oct 08
According to Dictionary.com
Function: noun
1 : the law applied in occupied territory by the military authority of the occupying power
2 : the law administered by military forces that is invoked by a government in an emergency when civilian law enforcement agencies are unable to maintain public order and safety
It would be much more than just a crewfew. One would need permission for every thing.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
19 Oct 08
I woulod think it might start another revoloyion for peopel just want stand to have thier homes raided. Ya reall y wouldnt like it. To me it would be like they were the custopo taking thing arresting you all that and not be able to go out and party it would take all our rights away!
That we have had in place over 200 years now
@slickcut (8140)
• United States
20 Oct 08
I am going to have to look this up to see,because i have not heard about this happening to us..I would fight this with everything i could because it sounds like this is like a controlled living thing...Its llike you have no rights at all and its like living in bondage..I am going to have to look all this up and find out more about it ,then i can give you my thoughts on this..
@KupoSin (680)
• United States
20 Oct 08
well martial law is basically when the military takes over a city or state. if you look back into japanese treatment after the attack on Pearl Harbor, there are many evidence of revoking natural rights and rights within the Constitution(though some rights are able to be revoked).
one example is the martial law after Pearl Harbor. The constitution states, "The privilege of the writ of habeous corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require. " this basically states that people may be tried under military court in which the victim may not receive a jury.
it is also possible that people will have curfews as evidence of previous incidents. the japanese were subjected to curfew where they were not allowed to be on the streets after a certain time period.
under martial law, anything that the government may deem necessary, they will do.
though in the japanese incident, it was mainly focused on the japanese people. if it were to happen in the modern age, it is highly likely that people will be provoked if it affected a large population. the japanese were considered minorities in the 1940s and many Americans were supporting the government's actions. i do not believe people in this time would tolerate actions such as these will economic problems that we are encountering. without weapons at home, people's safety are compromised by buglers who will take advantage of the opportunity.
all in all, i dont believe we will be under a martial law
@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
20 Oct 08
I, for one, hope it does lead to a revolution. I'm sick of the way the government is doing anything they want and not listening to the people!
I wouldn't be surprised if Martial Law were declared right after the election--there will be a recount, I'm sure, maybe several and people will be upset. Probably something bad will happen to the market again, too. If Bush declares ML, he stays president until everything is normal again and that could be years!
@tamarafireheart (15384)
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20 Oct 08
Hi twoey68,
Its a bit scarey just to think about it, on the up side, there would be less crimes being commited so that is good, but I see it happening in our country or yours really so I wouldn't worry too much yet.
Tamara
@msedge (4011)
• United States
2 Feb 09
I think Martial Law is when the military take over.The people has no freedom.We are being controlled and theres a certain time that we should be home or else they will arrest us and put to prison or might kill us.Its a scary thing i guess.I just hope it will not happen.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
19 Oct 08
This link may answer any questions you have.
The following guide will help you plan, prepare, and get ready in the event that martial law threatens you safety and well being.
http://members.tripod.com/Sidlinger/ml.html
@rowantree (1186)
• United States
19 Oct 08
I think the articles you read were extreme, maybe trying to get people to realize things could be a lot worse. I only read a little bit about martial law, but mainly it deals with declaring a state of emergency and people having a curfew, no public demonstrations. I didn't read the rest because it detailed different countries and each country is different. You still can leave your home, go to work, go to the store.
My own thought is that it would be extremely difficult to declare martial law for the entire US because of the size.
I really don't believe the country is doing so horribly bad that we will need to declare martial law. I don't think they declared martial law during the depression, did they?
@edgyk8inmomma (2157)
• United States
19 Oct 08
You have already recieved some great information. I just want to add to it.
Under martial law, all citizens loose their rights as free citizens. No one can do anything without the consent of the authority. The military takes over everything, from the court houses to the doctors offices, and even churches. There are church leaders right now in America being taught how to "calm their patrons, and advize them to follow orders."Sometimes an evacuation is necessary, say in the event of biological warfare, in that case, martial law would be envoked to purpose the evacuation. Military personel at every door step, forcing occupants to leave their homes, places of business, and places of worship.
The thing is, the intent would be good, to save the people. But once everyone is quarantined, events like the holocast would be very easy to simulate.We would all be subject to the authority. With no way to earn money, therefore no way to sustain ourselves, therefore depending on the ruler(s) for our very basic necessaties.
For those of you who think this wont be possible in America...wake up, its already started. Military are being trained, church leaders advized and trained....our country is preparing for this as we speak!
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
19 Oct 08
let's hope & pray that things don't get that bad. nothing would surprise the shape things are in.
@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
19 Oct 08
Hello twoey... here's a link to just give you an idea of what happened in the Philippines when it was under Martial Law.
http://countrystudies.us/philippines/28.htm
I was still a child during its prominence but I still remember being afraid everytime we go for a drive and had to pass through checkpoints. I also had a college classmate who said that he remembers being hidden in a cabinet because military men would go into their house and ask where his father was.
I know there are "laws" attached to declaring Martial Law and I'm not too knowledgeable about that. I just know that when a person with all that power is most likely to abuse that for one's gain and his loyal supporters' at the expense of the rest of the masses.




















