If Barak becomes president...
By momiecat
@momiecat (997)
United States
October 22, 2008 12:09am CST
Well, it is getting down to the wire. Soon the US will have a new president. It seems that most people think that Barak will be the next president.
It also seems that his key policy would be to spread the wealth around, take from the rich and give to the poor. But is this really fair? Some people that have lots of money worked very hard for it. Why should they have to give their money to people who are poor may be because those people don't work as hard. I know a lot of people who are poor and do work hard but should those that have more money support those that don't. Where does this idea come from? Robin Hood, may be.
Do you really think that Barak will do a good job as president and will he represent the will of the majority of the people or just certain groups of people, may be on the basis of racial lines?
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12 responses
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
22 Oct 08
How much do you know about income taxes? My husband and I are in the middle income bracket and our kids are grown. Goodbye child tax credit, no Earned Income Tax Credit for us. We're at risk of paying this year instead of getting a refund.
Meanwhile, businesses get to deduct every operating expense they can come up with from their gross income; from utilities to payroll to vehicle payments to gas to insurance to bank service charges..and much more. Do I get to take those deductions or anything close? No way. Businesses are taxed on the bottome line net income after all of their deductions.
Asking businesses to pay a higher percentage of their net profit after all those tax breaks is not taking from the rich and giving to the poor. Neither is giving tax breaks to those of us who are struggling and, for that reason, are not spending what money we've managed to hang onto. If the middle and lower income households have extra money, they will spend it and support business.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
22 Oct 08
momiecat I hate to say it as there are p;eopleon here who love to minus anyone who doesnt agree with McCain as president, but
yes I think we need a younger man without war on his mind, and a healthy person who will not be a candidate for a heart attack. as for the poor rich having to pay more taxes,wellboohoo poor babies, I cannot feel a bit of sorrow for any of you. I have
worked hard all my life but I am still poor. so what.Barack will do a good job as he is at least a bit nearer the middle class and theworking class than multi millionarie McCain.It is time somebody thought of the middle and working class people, we need more jobs, and we need them now,also we need a whole lot of better health care too.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
24 Oct 08
It is time somebody thought of the middle and working class people, we need more jobs, and we need them now,also we need a whole lot of better health care too.
bravo!! I agree totally with you Hatley..I also agree with your comment on the war issue as well actually
I can't vote since I'm not a citizen (and never will be actually) but IF I could I would vote for Barack...
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@momiecat (997)
• United States
26 Oct 08
Hatley, while I may not agree with what you have written I thank you for your opinion and the way you have presented it. There is no need for mud-slinging here on these posts. We all are giving our opinions, even if they differ. Time will tell how things go in the USA with a new president, whomever that will be.
@Springlady (3986)
• United States
22 Oct 08
Hi momiecat,
If Obama becomes President, it will be, IMO, a very scary time. I really pray that he doesn't get elected. McCain is not a whole lot better, but he is the lesser of the two evils to me.
My main issues are abortion and the sanctity of marriage. I really want a godly President who will seek God's guidance and wisdom in making decisions for our country. I have heard way too many things about Obama being Muslim, etc for me to trust him for a split second.
No matter how this election turns out, we need to pray hard for our nation and for our world. We have drawn further and further away from God and things are going to continue to worsten unless we surrender and repent to the Lord.
God bless.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
24 Oct 08
I have heard way too many things about Obama being Muslim, etc for me to trust him for a split second
You dont trust a man simply because he follows a different religious path then you? Dont you think that is a little shameful? I mean especially considering NOT everyone in America is Christian for starters AND the fact that religion SHOULD NOT be brought into politics in the first place...How can you make a solid, wise choice being so closed minded like that? And just a side note..how can you be sure that all of your favourite past presidents were all on the same religious page as you?
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@Springlady (3986)
• United States
23 Oct 08
No, I won't keep God out of the government. He is what we need more than anything. As long as we keep Him out of the government and other things, this world will continue to suffer greatly.
God bless.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
22 Oct 08
I for one hope he does NOT become president. His idea of "spread the wealth" sounds more socialist or even communist than democrat. I believe you're right in that he'll only represent certain groups. I'm afraid it will be a scary world with Obama as president, I may just move out of the country.
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@N4life (851)
• United States
22 Oct 08
Obama is talking about fair taxes not socialism, his plan would simply revert taxes back to what they were in the Clinton days. No one was crying socialism then. The Right is freaking out because the people are finally seeing the light.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
22 Oct 08
I agree with the one above you, its not socialism its simply someone who at last cares about somebody like me, an elderly woman trying to make ends meet on a small social security check, and yes I do not care aboutthe super wealthy and will not boohoo because the poor babies had their taxes raised, most super wealthy inherited their wealth and t heir f orebears were the ones who actually earned it. Why should I have to count pennies when some wealthy stuffed shirt squanders as much as my whole social security check on something ridiculous? I am for Obama, as are a lot of other people.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
22 Oct 08
No, his plan is to over tax the rich, and undertax the poor. That's socialism where everyone makes the same money regardless of occupation. Why should my kids go to college and get a good paying career if they're going to make the same money as a burger flipper at McDonald's?
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@bmorehouse1 (1028)
• United States
22 Oct 08
I'm afraid this country will be in a world of hurt, if Obama is voted in as president! He will be looking out only for certain groups of people, maybe based on race, maybe based on religion (Muslim), maybe based on both. Open your eyes - Obama has connections with a terrorist for heavens sake! Do you see his wife in the news now? Of course not. She was saying things like "For the first time in my life I am proud of this country", as well as other stupid things, so of course that was not good for the campaign. I for one am afraid of what will happen if he gets to be President. Vote for McCain!
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@dbusichio (80)
• United States
22 Oct 08
I agree with you 200% We need to wake up the silent majority, To stand up to fight for what you beleive in. To take back our country from the socialist liberal
democrates.
Look around you, what do you see. People are losing jobs, Look whats happen to our
Big three Auto makers, Companies are closing their doors cause they can't compete with foreign markets.
We need to take back our country, stand up and fight.
Vote MaCain and Palin
@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
22 Oct 08
Gee, I feel really honoured to be responding to a post by someone who is clearly on first name terms with Senator Obama. Especially one who seems to have such a strong grasp of the issues, and without even a hint of xenophobia in her makeup.
I mean it's clearly not right that Obama should be elected by poor blacks who think they'll get a better deal from him, and it's completely different from President Bush being elected by the rich white businessmen who belong to the same clubs and hedge funds, whose children go to the same schools and universities, and who share his abbhorrence of taxation and his lack of compassion for the less fortunate.
Get a grip on reality.
Lash
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
22 Oct 08
FYI, I'm a poor lower class citizen who's voting for McCain... I feel the same way the original poster did. Obama is a socialist, not a democrat. Stop generalizing.
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@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
23 Oct 08
It's called social justice, not socialism (which is state ownership of the means of production), but that is obviously an alien concept to the loony republican right. What astonishes me is the number of critics of social justice who are themselves poor and struggling; social justice is as much for them as anybody. Talk about brainwashed.
Lash
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@matt0707 (43)
• United States
22 Oct 08
If Obama is a socialist, then what do you call the republicans in office right now, and everyone supporting the bail out. They are privatizing the big corporations profits, and publicizing their loses. That is worse than socialism because the public has to pay for the failures of companies, but then doesn't get reimbursed when they do well.
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
27 Oct 08
Well, Personally I wish that we had 2 other people to choose for President over McCain and Obama as I feel neither of them are really right for the job right now, but I am tired of Bush and how bad he has hurt the Economy, Health Care, etc. and I feel McCain is not wanting to change any of this, so for that reason I feel it is time to give the Democrats a chance and see if their is anything good to come from it as well. Just wish there was a better choice is all.
@momiecat (997)
• United States
29 Oct 08
I do tend to agree with you. I am not crazy about either candidate. Being President of the United States would be a tough job, I believe. It requires a lot of strength of character. I think Obama is going to win the election. It will remain to be seen how he runs the Country and if the middle class ends up paying higher taxes. That is what worries me the most.
@rsa101 (38115)
• Philippines
22 Oct 08
I am very interested how Americans will vote for their next president this cvoming November 4th. I think Americans would have to decide on that issue and hopefully they would choose the rightful people in that very prestigious and powerful seat. goodluck may your election be a fruitful one in the near future.
@momiecat (997)
• United States
26 Oct 08
I appreciate your positive comment. I believe what you say is true. Lots of countries will be watching this election. I do hope that the American public will choose the best person for the job. I know a lot of people will vote for Obama because they will have their hands out waiting for those freebies that he is promising.
@bdugas (3578)
• United States
23 Oct 08
i don't think racial lines is the word for it, it seems to me that Obama thinks he should be the one to make the judgement as to how much a person should make and when he believe it is enough. To spread the wealth around is something i don't understand, who is he to judge that I need the money more than you, it appears to me that what he is trying to turn us into is a country run on Socialism. No I do not think this man will do a good job for this country, I agree with McCain, why is he is such a rush to raise taxes on anyone right now, especially with the economy in the shape it is in now. He wants to control spending but already to ask for 900 million in new programs that he deems necessary. 900 million, that is an awful lot of money on top of the mess we are already in. I think Obama thinks that he is the only one in this country that should have it all and wants to make others have and live on what he deems appropriate. So if you want what will eventually turn into Socialism then Obama is the one for you. I personally don't think that he should be the one to decide who has enough money and therefore be taxed to take it away from them. He is not GOD as some people think, he has 70's ideas and we all remember what the 70's was like do we really want to go back to that.
@momiecat (997)
• United States
29 Oct 08
You make some good points bdugas. I agree with your assessment that Obama's "residtribution" plan is taking away money from some people and giving it to others, i.e. the poorer people. That does not make sense to me either. Granted, I do not want poor people to go without their basic needs but I also believe that sometimes they contribute to their own level of poverty. Sometimes it is not their fault. We have programs.... welfare for instance, to help out those in need. I do not agree with Obama's premise that basically states the poor are not getting enough and therefore they need more handouts. Redistribution is definitely a socialist philosophy. When people agree to vote for Obama and he turns this Country into a socialist Country, then we will no longer have democracy and no longer have freedom. Think of the long term effects of not having freedom, pretty scary.
@Mare73 (1335)
• United States
27 Oct 08
Well call it what you want...I'm not voting for McCain. I'm not sure if I'll vote for Obama or whoever else they throw up there, but I do know it's not McCain.
Yes, he's against abortions and he's against homosexuals getting married. That's the only 2 things good about him. That's not what would make him a good president. A good president thinks about the people. A good president sees the big picture and not just the immediate.
Now - for those that hate Obama so much; if he was against abortions and homosexuality would you vote for him??? I'm sorry but there are other issues at hand than the choices people make with their lives.
@momiecat (997)
• United States
29 Oct 08
Is that Mare like mare in Italian which means sea or ocean. Pretty name. You are entitled to your opinion. That is democracy. People all over the Country are worried about different things. The economy is one of the biggest problems we have right now. I hope that when Obama becomes President we do not lose the "middle class" and end up with two classes -- the rich and the poor. I think redistribution of wealth will end up costing consumers a lot more money. If Obama takes from the companies that make big bucks, what about grocery stores for instance? They will surely pass along their losses in revenue to their customers in the form of higher prices for groceries. Then we will all suffer except those who get foodstamps.
@ThirdMillion (604)
• United States
23 Oct 08
I personally don't feel that race will be an issue as far as how Barack will run the country. Sure it will play an issue in the election, but not in his decisions. I say, its time to give someone else a shot. We've had 8 years of the Republicans so lets give the Democrats a chance to work on the issues. I mean, at this point it can't get all that much worse. :(
@momiecat (997)
• United States
29 Oct 08
I agree with you in that "race" will not play an issue in how Obama runs the Country. I wish elections were not based on party lines but on the character and values of the person running for the job. People get all heated up over one candidate or another. I think what the person stands for should be a better yardstick to measure how he/she will do as President. As a person, I think Obama has a good moral character, and I like that in him. However, his "redistribution" policy is what I do not agree with. I would think at every election people say we need "change". Basically if there is a new person in office that seems to me sort of a "change" in itself. What do pro-Democrats mean by "change". What is at the core of their beliefs that they want changed? When it all boils down, do they mostly just want the lower and middle classes to receive free handouts? Is that what they mean by change? Do they want to just pull out of Iraq and have the history books say our great Country was defeated? I really would like a civilized and thoughtful answer to my question. I would like to know the specific issues that make Democrats vote Democrat and what they get from it; I mean how is it going to affect them and what they want from their President. In other words why, specifically, are you voting for Obama? He seems to be the frontrunner in this election. I believe he is going to win. I know that most people who vote for him are voting for him because of what they think they will get with the "change" that he will bring to the Country.
@MARKDENN (30)
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
23 Oct 08
when barak obama becomes president,what a day of rejoicing that would be for the minority,but for the majority there would be gnashing of teeth and cursing and who know maybe they would even try to assassinate him like they did Kennedy.African Americans have come a long way in world and they deserve every good blessing that come to them,for their fore fathers didn't fight for political freedom in vain.above all I believe that he would do a good job.
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@momiecat (997)
• United States
26 Oct 08
I do believe there are a lot of good African-Americans in the USA who deserve blessings, and I do hope there will not be any attempts to "assassinate" anyone, no matter who becomes president. I do believe that African-American ancestors were wrongly treated and so were the Jews. Something to remember also, no matter who gets elected, Obama has white ancestors on his mother's side, so I am not sure how the African-American forefathers fighting for political freedom would have any negative bearing or effect.
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