Lies about Prop 8 (or the whole marriage debate)

I am pro gay marriage. I cannot understand why the government is happy to allow gay couples to be legally couples but refuses to allow them to marry. That is the situation in Australia and I think it is wrong to deny them marriage. I think it is wrong to deny them the right to be with the one they love and I know that gay couples love each other just as much as heterosexual couples. They should be allowed to show their love for each other openly and legally.

Hmmm quite a lot of different thoughts coming at the same time :) In the first place, I agree with you that any trips are to be approved ( or not ) by parents after reading the information that goes home way before. That will give parents a choice. In regards to this particular news I might have heard wrong, I thought I heard that they were told a story about gay marriage. It is kind of a different thing in my opinion. Taking a trip to see a gay marriage seems unnecessary to me, and serving no particular purpose, specially for kids at that level. A story, well that kind of depends. Depends on what the story is and how it is told, and is the main goal to teach kids that now people from the same gender can marry in certain places or just allowing them to naturally realize that marriage can come in any form and gender. I mean, nobody makes a big deal if the story ends with " And the prince and the princess married and lived happily ever after" I wouldn't have a problem with a story that ended with " and the prince/princess and the prince/princess married and lived happily ever after" it would just help kids to accept things gradually and naturally. Now if the whole story was about gay marriage, it would feel forced to me and not even totally appropriate for level/age. It wouldn't make me go into a rage or anything like that, but I would consider it one of those things that wasn't necessary at that point. As for beliefs and decisions, regardless of my view on this subject, I would not be prepared to have someone else decide for me that I could or not be with someone - ever. I don't even think that this is something that needs to be decided- other than for the fact that things do need to be decided in order for same gender partners to have the rights they should.Governments and laws should have nothing to do with it other than for the legal aspects, but they certainly should not make decisions for others in regards to this. I am looking forward to a day where people don't even notice these things. WHo is married to whom and which gender is each one should not be a concern. What people are, as a person, would concern me so much more.

Ah, debates and clashes of ideas. I prefer a quiet place. I would just plant a seed and watch it grow. I'm glad I don't have a kid in grade school anymore. Cheers!!

I remember watching this and there were students who did not go, because their parents did not want them to. And people raised good questions...you know those kids who did not get to go, thought they missed out on a field trip.... Equality is what America is all about, I cannot understand how two people, who want to be each other and want to marry, I cannot understand how this hurts anyone else, in fact, it should bring strength to their own beliefs about love and their rights, and desire to be with the person they want to.... I wish I was invited to the wedding, I am sure it was beautiful...you see those kids throwing rice? I am sure they were happy to be out of schoool...they are kids, kids are not judgmental, parents teach them to be....

I am so darned tired of those commercials for this prop. I will really be happy when the election is over and done with I agree that the parents had to know about the field trip and signed an permission slip, so what's the big deal? As for teaching marriage, I spent almost my entire twelve years of public school in California and I do not remember anyone teaching me about marriage. I must have been absent that day

I just don't understand why the majority of people feel that what they think & feel is the ONLY way to think & feel. Before we got married, my husband & I were living together. Living in a small Southern Bible Belt town, we were not accepted very well. We were threatened by everyone including the local government. We had planned on getting married anyway so we just moved up the date we got married. Then suddenly everything was OK. It didn't matter that we loved each other just as much while living together. We spoke our vows before God & didn't give the government their share. In my mind that was the ONLY thing we had done wrong!!! So, I can sympathize with those who are in love & being torn apart because some fool doesn't agree. Jesus' Mother Mary & Joseph never married even though they had 12 children together. The bible says married in the eyes of GOD. It does NOT say married in the eyes of MAN!!! I do NOT answer to my next door neighbor when I die. I answer to God. So I don't think it is any of my neighbor's business what I do (short of murder)!!! I remember one of the first lesbian couples to get married. They had waited over 55 years to get married. They were both in a nursing home by the time it became legal. In my mind, they were married a long time before the government recognized it. Instead of teaching first graders about marriage, why not teach them tolerance of their fellow man??? As long as I'm not being physically harmed by it, I don't giva crap what my neighbors are doing!!!