'E' or 'O'

@SViswan (12051)
India
November 2, 2008 1:11am CST
Envelope is a word we have all used atleast once in our lives. I've been taught to pronounce the word starting with the 'o' sound first....but most people I know pronounce it with an 'e' sound (like the 'e' in egg). I was watching a reality show on television yesterday and the anchor said the word with an 'e' sound and the judge said it with an 'o' sound. That got me thinking on which was the right way to say it. Which is the right pronounciation and which one do you use?
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@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
3 Nov 08
Hi Sv Hope u musrt be doing well, Well we were taught to pronounce it with "E" and i would say its right way as the teacher was British and was in teaching profession since 1940. Had many awards in field of education from IK as well as Pakistan I think the differnce may be American and British English Take care
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
8 Nov 08
NO, I think it is British. I was never exposed to American English while I was growing up and I learnt it as 'o'nvelope.
@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
8 Nov 08
Hi Sv neither i was exposed to American English till i was In MBA and mostly book were AMerican, and i used to go American centre for their Library Any Way. I say it with E Take care
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Is there really a right or wrong here? I figured it was a regional difference. I pronounce it EN-velope... but I have always seen pronunciation guides stating that's how to say it. Of course I hear other people say ON-velope and I figure they didn't grow up near me lol.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
8 Nov 08
Most Indians pronounce it 'en'velope...but I learnt it as 'O'nvelope. You are right...it's probably a regional difference.
@aseretdd (13729)
• Philippines
3 Nov 08
All of my english teachers told us to pronounce envelope with and "o" sound... but we the students would always forget... in my case... if i am talking to a pronunciation conscious person... or when i am giving a report infront of people... i would always remember to use the "o" sound... but if it is just my friends or family... i wouldn't care if i used the "e" or "o" sound...
@SViswan (12051)
• India
8 Nov 08
lol...that's very sesible:)
@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
2 Nov 08
Honestly? It doesn't matter how you say it for either way is correct. I'm not sure on this but it may be a case of North and South. The northern parts of America have their own language just as the south does. We use the same words for the most part however we pronounce them differently and each have their own slang words as well. As for myself, I pronounce it with the O sound.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
8 Nov 08
Oh...I knew that the North and South had different accents...but didn't think that extended to the word 'envelope'. Thanks for enlightening me.
@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
3 Nov 08
I have always pronounced it with an O sound but more like AUN so instead of InVelope like some people might say (in for the E sound) I say AunVaillope (so Aun - Vail - lope) almost like Un veil, but with an a sound. Maybe I'm weird.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
8 Nov 08
Yes, that's the pronounciation I was talking about. It's more an 'Aun'velope...than an 'O'nvelope.
@angelia286 (2029)
• Singapore
3 Nov 08
Well, I get confused with the different pronounciation of the same word too, and it does not only applies to envelope! I believe that it has something to do with the difference between the American pronouciation and the British one. So, countries which studies the British English will pronounce one way and those who studies the American English will pronounce the other way. It all depends on one's country's education system. For me, I was taught to pronounce it with a 'e' sound and not an 'O'. If I am not mistaken, the 'o' pronounciation is American. But I could be wrong, if the blurring of the lines between the American and the British English nowadays.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
8 Nov 08
I think the 'O' is British pronounciation and not American. But it can get confusing and like an Indian actor once said 'English is a funny language'.
@owlwings (43897)
• Cambridge, England
2 Sep 09
There is no truly 'right' way. Historically, the word came into English from the French (in which 'en' is pronounced 'o[n]' with a nasal [n]. Many British speakers therefore pronounce the word as 'ON-vul-ope' but the associated verb, 'envelop' is always pronounced 'en-VEL-up' with the accent on the second syllable. In England, 'ON-vel-ope' (especially if the 'e' in the second syllable is pronounced as such) is seen as tending to belong to upper class usage. In the US, words tend to be pronounced as they are spelt, so I suspect that most Americans would say 'EN-vul-ope'. Until now I had given very little thought to the way I, personally, pronounce the word but, thinking about it, I may use both pronunciations about equally. It seems to be easier and more natural to me to say 'an EN-vul-ope' but 'the ON-vul-ope'! Confusion reigns!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
11 Sep 09
Thanks for responding. I tend to use both ways too depending on who I am speaking to. Yes, yes, confusion reigns:)
@reinydawn (11642)
• United States
29 Dec 08
That's a good question! I have said and heard it both ways. I guess we could look it up in the dictionary and see what the pronunciation is...
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
1 Jan 09
lol..I pronounce enterpreuner and envelope with an 'o' sound....while most people in India pronounce it with an 'e' sound and look at me in a wierd manner when I pronounce it the other way. So, I've learnt to use both depending on who I am speaking to.
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@reinydawn (11642)
• United States
1 Jan 09
Thank you for Best Response! I learned a little bit from just looking it up. I'm the same with you, you have to figure out how the person you are talking to likes to hear it. They're both right though...
@reinydawn (11642)
• United States
29 Dec 08
usage The \\'en-\\ and \\'än-\\ pronunciations are used with about equal frequency, and both are fully acceptable, though the \\'än-\\ version is sometimes decried as “pseudo-French.” Actually \\'än-\\ is exactly what one would expect to hear when a French word like entrepreneur is becoming anglicized. Envelope, however, has been in English for nearly 300 years, plenty of time for it to become completely anglicized and for both of its pronunciations to win respectability. That's what Webster-Mariam dictionary has. Kinda makes a little bit of sense.
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
2 Nov 08
SViswan, either pronunciation is correct for the noun envelope. Since that word came into the English language from the French and they pronounce it with the "o" sound, that is the way I do it, but I do not look down on those who use the Anglicized version as it is equally acceptable. The verb envelop is pronounced with the "e" first but with the accent on the second syllable and the "o" at the end is less hard than for the noun. More like "up" than "ope" as the silent "e" at the end of a word usually signals that the preceding vowel be long.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
5 Nov 08
I don't look down on someone who says it with the 'e' sound (that's how it is pronounced here in India....and people might look down on me for pronouncing it with an 'O' sound..lol) Yes, I pronounse the verb with an 'e' sound just the way you do.
• United States
2 Nov 08
I say it with the 'e' sound. I have never heard it pronounced with the 'o' sound so I never thought about it before. Perhaps both ways are correct. Kind of like an I say tomato (to-mate-oh) you say tomato (to-mot-oh) kind of thing maybe? lol
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
8 Nov 08
Yes, I've heard both the funny version of tomato and potato!
• United States
3 Nov 08
Believe it or not, I have actually heard people say, 'toe-mah-toe', and 'poe-tah-toe'. It really sounds quite funny since most people do say 'toe-may-toe' and 'poe-tay-toe'. lol
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
3 Nov 08
This argument always makes me laugh because I have never actually heard somebody say 'toe-mah-toe', everybody says 'toe-may-toe' lol. I HAVE heard people say 'add-VER-tiss-ment' instead of add-ver-TIZE-ment' but again that seems like regional spoken differences, people may have actually just learned a different pronunciation from the word go.
@jewilim (495)
• Philippines
2 Nov 08
I think i have head some pronounce it starting with "an-" as in "Anvalope". IM not quite sure if that is the right pronounciation. I think there are also lots of words liks that. Some are spelled differently from its prnounciation, sometimes i think its quite weird why does it have to be spelled differently from its pronounciation. Why dont they just spell it as to how it sounds to make it easier, it think it makes things more confusing when the spelling is quite different from how the word is read. hehe
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
8 Nov 08
That's so true. English is a funny language...that's all I can say!
@whiteheron (4222)
• United States
11 Nov 08
I must admit that I pronounce it: In-vel(vL)-ope. I live in California, USA and this pronounciation seems standard here.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
1 Jan 09
Oh...that's the first time I'm hearing that pronounciation. It's probably got something to do with the accent, is it?
• India
30 Dec 08
I don't know what is right way to pronounce but I pronounce it as EN envelope . I tried to pronounce as you said with O but I am not able to get it right . May there can be a difference with English and US pronounce.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
1 Jan 09
I think most people in India who went to convent schools and had Anglo-Indian teachers were taught the word with the 'o' sound. Though I didn't school in India, I went to an Indian convent outside the country and was taught by Anglo-Indian teachers or nuns.
@Roseo8 (2947)
• India
2 Nov 08
Yes pronouncing the word with the 'o' sound is the right way to do it.But I usually pronounce it with an 'e',malayalee style.The reason is when I go to a shop and ask for an envelope with a 'e',I immedaitley get what I want.But if I pronounce it with an 'o',I will end up with getting an envelope ,along with a sneer,for trying to sound like an english woman...he..he...
@SViswan (12051)
• India
4 Nov 08
Oh yes...the 'sayippinde mol' look! I know that very well. Even when I THINK I am speaking proper Malayalam, I get that look...lol. I guess I don't have that mallu accent at all...even when I am speaking in Malayalam. I've had people ask me 'You didn't grow up in Kerala, did you?' even when I speak only in Malayalam and I wonder what made them say that. Maybe my Malayalam is not Malayalam enough.
• India
10 Nov 08
Hi Sandhya, I have always pronounced it with O (like the ‘aw’ sound) and to me, that was the way it was to be pronounced. It’s the first time I am hearing (courtesy Gohar, the first responder) that O is the American way and E is the English way! Ever heard of this before?
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
30 Nov 08
Actually that's not right. 'O' is the English way. The Britishers pronounced it 'on'velope. Most of the Anglo Indian teachers taught us the same way. It is others who learnt English like a second language who pronounced it with an 'e' sound.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
5 Nov 08
I usually pronounce it with 'o'. That how i was taught since childhood. But my parents are inclined towards 'e'. As far as i know, ENVELOPE is imbibed from the French, just as many other words have. like ensemble, entrepreneur...The French pronounce it somewhere between 'e' and 'o'. And we pronounce it either as round 'o' or as round'e'. it should be inclined towards 'o', but not proper full 'o'. hope that made sense!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
8 Nov 08
Yes, it makes sense because that's how I say it:) It's more of an 'au' sound than an 'o'
@kaka135 (14994)
• Malaysia
10 Nov 08
I pronounce it with an 'e' sound. I'm not sure if it's the right pronunciation, I've heard many people pronounce it that way, but never hear people pronouncing it with an 'o' sound. Thanks for bringing up this topic, sometimes I'm confused with the English pronunciation too. In my country, different people pronounce certain words different, also some teachers taught us wrongly actually.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
30 Nov 08
Though it is commonly pronounced with an 'e' sound, 'O' is the Britishers style of saying it. Now, who has an authority to speak about the English language? And who does it really belong to? There are lots of variations in the English language from region to region.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
3 Nov 08
Oh the joys of English pronunciation! I personally say the word envelope with the "O" sound. Arguably you could say that the use of the "E" sound is more correct but I think it is much of a muchness really. Standard dictionaries also use a pronunciation key with the "en" sound preceding so this backs up the "E" beginning even further. There are many words though that can fall under different pronunciations that are totally dependent on the speaker. "Necklace" for example. I pronounce the second part as "less" so more like neckless. But others will say lace.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
8 Nov 08
I hadn't thought of it....but I pronounce it with a 'less' too.
@urbandekay (18278)
10 Nov 08
Envelope is an English word borrowed from the French and was originally pronounced with the 'o' sound. However, the majority of English people now use the 'e' sound. Both are correct. I use sometimes one and sometimes the other without thinking. all the best urban
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
30 Nov 08
This makes sense....and having borrowed the word from the French, 'o' must have been the original way of saying it.
@anonymili (3138)
10 Nov 08
I don't know for sure which is the right way hun but here in the UK I've always pronounced it with the "on" sound rather than an "en" and English is my first language. It's so weird, I never thought about it before you brought it up in this discussion...
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
30 Nov 08
Yes, I agree it's the Britishers who pronounce it with an 'o' sound. Most schools in India follow the Queen's English....nad most of us who were taught by Anglo Indian teachers were taught the word with an 'o' sound.