Here We Go Again! ! Different rights for different people!

Canada
November 13, 2008 6:49am CST
Last year I posted a discussion about a Muslim woman who was fired from a Security Company because she altered her uniform. She made herself a skirt that touched the floor instead of wearing the regulation knee length skirt. She took her complaint to the Canadian Human Rights Commission. Now there is another situation. Eight female employees at UPS who got fired because they failed to adhere to company dress code launched a complaint. They worked at a UPS warehouse and because they had to climb ladders often 6 feet high to stack or retrieve packages they wore pants and if they wished a knee length skirt over top. The women insisted on wearing floor length skirts which UPS considered a safety hazard because they could easily trip over them going up and down the ladders. The Human Rights Tribunal is already hearing this issue for two weeks at taxpayer’s expense. The ladies claim that it is possible to see the shape of their lower legs wearing pants and short skirts. Ever heard of baggy pants? These women all belong to the same mosque. This mosque preaches strict adherence to sharia and no compromise with the West. Teachings found at khalidmosque.com preach such things as: Islamic Guidelines to Women: "The enemies of Islam know the importance of Hijab and the value of remaining at home. They therefore vehemently attack Hijab (The head covering for women)...They hate Islam and us. They wish to our demise and downfall." Save the women: "Once a Muslim woman becomes introduced to the wickedness of Western ideology and concepts she becomes fixated on trying to appear and act like her "role models" of corruption." What is the Islamic position on female circumcision? "It is an honour for women but not obligatory" Is it permitted for a Muslim woman to pierce her nose? "It serves no purpose and causes pain and mutilation." www.khalidmosque.com Note on the above: In certain countries little girls are dragged to an old woman who performs the female circumcision with an unsanitary knife. That is not mutilation? That does not cause pain? On the website there are also derogatory remarks about Jews. My question is: Should organizations that complain of violation of religious and human rights while denouncing other faiths and ways of life have the right to be heard by Human Rights Tribunals?
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
18 Dec 08
I am a Christian and the Human Rights do not adhere to our rights, our right to believe what the Bible says even though society says otherwise, so I feel the Human Right tribunal only does the rights when it suits them. If they say that these women can wear long skirts and baggy pants when it is shown that these can cause accidents, then the Human Rights is just adhering to other beliefs while shirking others. A belief that allows little girls to be mutilated, and possibly infected, made sterile has no right to complain to the commission. A belief that tells its followers to live decent and wholesome lives goes to the Commission and does not get their rights allowed. So why is it all right for the Muslims to get heard and not the Christians? iF THE ups says that wearing baggy pants or long skirts endangers the employee, it knows what it is talking about. SAfety is more important than tradition.
• Canada
18 Dec 08
The point that UPS made was that long skirts would endanger the employees. No doubt if a woman would have gotten hurt they would sue UPS without hesitation. As far as your point about Christians is concerned Canada is still a Christian or secular country. Only about 1.5% of the population states Islam as their religion in the census of 2006. I think the Human Rights Commission should stick to their mandate to investigate human rights abuses in the work place, racial discrimination, discrimination against women in the work force and abuses of seasonal contract workers from other countries.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
23 Dec 08
Suspenseful, I don't believe the Human Rights don't 'let you believe what you want'. It IS your right to believe what the Bible says if you do. It is also other peoples' right to NOT believe that if they don't. How does someone else's choice NOT to believe infringe on your right to believe? It doesn't seem to.
@balasri (26537)
• India
18 Dec 08
It is a primary fact that if anyone wants to work in an organization they have to adhere to all the codes of the company including the dress code.If anything including the religion prevents them from adhering to those codes they better stay out of that job and find a convenient one. One cannot eat the cake and have two more.And one cannot impose his own rule everywhere except his home.There is something called rules and regulations.
@balasri (26537)
• India
18 Dec 08
It is the girl who tried to violated the company norms.
• Canada
18 Dec 08
yes, I agree with you completely. What did upset me in particular that a complaint was launched with the Human Rights Commission when derogatory comments and admonishments against the "West" were posted on their website. I understand those have been withdrawn but of course the attitude remains even though the words have gone.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
4 Dec 08
To be honest I don't like hijab. I respect those who wear it. I don't like my wife or any other women to hide her hair in the hi jab. YOu can sin not by seeing a woman's hair only. If life was so simple! But I don't hate Islam or Muslims. I do respect other people's culture and traditions. I guess that muslims should respect the western clothes code and when westerners go to muslim countries should do like wise.
• Canada
5 Dec 08
I don't hate Muslims either but it gets on my nerves when taxpayers money has to be spent to abjudicate matters of dress code. My point is that if a company requires employees to wear a uniform, they must abide by it and not alter it to their taste or religious requirement. In those cases they should not take the job. If there are safety requirements regarding pants or ankle lenght skirts the prospective employee should be told when hired and if they do not abide by it the company should have the right to fire them. It should not be a case for the Human Rights Commission
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
23 Dec 08
I completely agree, Linda. I'm not sure why people have such a hard time separating themselves from things this way. If you know you're going to have a personal problem with an expectation, then move on, find another job, another place to live, new friends. It doesn't do any good to choose something and then complain nonstop about all the 'restrictions' or how nobody will accomodate you when it was YOUR OWN CHOICE to take THAT JOB or LIVE THERE lol.