And I thought the political hate was bad at mylot....

@ZephyrSun (7382)
United States
November 15, 2008 6:26pm CST
So, the last several weeks I heard a lot of hate about Presidential Elect Obama and I assumed that for some reason these people were just drawn to mylot for some reason but after reading this article on aol I see it isn't. I wasn't alive during the 60's but I think we are gearing up to see that again. "One was in Snellville, Ga., where Denene Millner said a boy on the school bus told her 9-year-old daughter the day after the election: "I hope Obama gets assassinated." That night, someone trashed her sister-in-law's front lawn, mangled the Obama lawn signs, and left two pizza boxes filled with human feces outside the front door, Millner said." (...) "I can't say that every white person in Snellville is evil and anti-Obama and willing to desecrate my property because one or two idiots did it," said Millner, who is black." Here's a really funny one- "Grant Griffin, a 46-year-old white Georgia native, expressed similar sentiments: "I believe our nation is ruined and has been for several decades and the election of Obama is merely the culmination of the change. "If you had real change it would involve all the members of (Obama's) church being deported," he said." Where would Mr. Griffin like us to deport the members of Obama's church? The United States since they are citizens of this nation? So what are your thoughts? I know that some of the people here have liked to believe that racism is dead as I have argued with them over this. I of course live in the real world and know that racism is not dead but, I didn't know that it was as bad as this. http://news.aol.com/article/election-spurs-hundreds-of-race-threats/249475?cid=12 Please do not read if you are easily offended.
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@spalladino (17922)
• United States
16 Nov 08
It's a shame but I agree that racism is still a problem in this country. It also seems that racists are still as ugly and stupid as they ever were but, unlike back in the 60's, there are more people willing to speak out against it...both black and white.
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I hope that all the people speaking out keeps us out of the days of the 60's. I remember pictures that my dad took on a trip (somewhere in the south) and there was a sign that said whites only. I was so shocked when I seen that. I swore my dad had to be old enough to remember dinosaurs if he was old enough for that lol
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@spalladino (17922)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I never saw one of those signs but I do remember not being allowed to go over to my friend from school's house because I was white and she was black and lived in The Grove. Fortunately for both of us, there was a playground just outside of The Grove where both black and white kids played since it was the only one within walking distance for so many of us. For some reason we managed to play together without any racial problems that I can remember.
@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
17 Nov 08
When I was little I remember my preschool was a pretty good mix of every race I can think of. I also remember thinking that it was really neat that there were so many different skin colors. Of course I was like three at the time, and my parents taught me that everybody is the same and skin color is just one of the unique things about every person. I was never in the position of not being allowed to play with a friend or be in public with them, and for that I am grateful. It was the late 70s when I was in preschool so I suppose things were a lot better than for those of us who are literally older than dirt.
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@myklj999 (34221)
• Olney, Illinois
16 Nov 08
I have to deal with an extremely racist person every day. He seems to think I should laugh at all his jokes (which I don't) and he gets on the CB talking trash about everyone who is not white. There are people in my town who are PROUD to associate themselves with the KKK. It just numbs me to see all the hatred. I use to get angry; now, I'm just becoming numb. Of course, I have also seen racism towards me for being white. It's not my fault, I was born this way. We all have red blood. Why can't we get along?
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I guess I have been blind to racism, I live in a big city with a large population of African Americans. I'm sorry you have to be around someone like that, it would put me in a rubber room. We all have red blood, all have bones and the only difference in what is on the outside. And thank the higher powers for us all looking different, god knows I don't want to take the wrong kids home from school
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• United States
16 Nov 08
Good post, I agree that we all have Red Blood.
@relundad (2311)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Hi Zeph, I just read this same article on comcast and being from GA you know that racism is still alive. I will say that living in metro Atlanta its not as forward, but you still know that its around. Being in a inter-racial relationship has warranted its share of looks, stares and verbal comments. I still find it hard to believe thats its possible to lump a whole group of people and literally HATE them. Its beyond anything that I can imagine. I think that racism is a learned and taught way of life. And the only thing that I know is that I have to teach my child different, as I was taught. Which is that if you are to dislike a person, it should be because of something that they did to you personally and not because of something they can't change or have no control over.
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@relundad (2311)
• United States
16 Nov 08
One thing that I have noticed is that the amount of racism or the ways that it is expressed has a direct connection with the financial class of people. Which is also very weird to me. It seems that if you are in poor area's of any state its more noticable, whether it be black or white, especially in the south. In the area that I live, it doesn't matter if you are black, white, blue or brown. Its like if you have enough GREEN (which you would have to in order to live here)it doesn't matter.
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• United States
17 Nov 08
What is saddest about that, relundad, is that in those poorer areas we could most be banding together to help each other rather than being separated from each other. I've seen firsthand what can happen when people put aside differences to work toward a common goal. My city dealt with a serious problem between police and citizens by putting aside racial differences and presenting a united front to the city. When it stopped being a "black" problem or a "Latino" problem and became a community issue that was affecting all of our lives, the city had to take it seriously. The solution that we worked out benefited us all - and not just those of us in our neighborhood, but the entire city.
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@relundad (2311)
• United States
17 Nov 08
This is very true, if only someone can be big enough to step up to the plate, it would make a world of difference. But instead the ignorance gets passed from generation to generation.
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• United States
16 Nov 08
I grew up in one of the Northern cities that had widespread race riots in the 60s. We lived in one of the more "troubled" areas - a neighborhood that was in the process of white flight - and we were among the last remaining white families. I still remember my complete bewilderment when the kids who'd been my friends just last week were chasing me down the street with rocks. I still remember the bewilderment when adults that I loved - white adults this time - picked up rocks to throw them at school buses. It made no sense to me then and it still makes no sense to me. Forty years later, the difference is that there are millions of people like me who simply don't understand it and millions of our children who were raised in a society that sees value in diversity. There are also, unfortunately, racists of all colors and ethnicity. I've had to comfort both of my daughters when they were shut out of social groups or treated differently by friends because they are not Latina. To me, the saddest part of it all is that the focus on differences manages to divide us from each other and keeps us all from working together to make a better world for everyone.
@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I am very glad that I did not have to grow up in that era, it must have been so sad and confusing. I hope that we do not come to riots again. Maybe some day like our great grandchildren's generation will not know the hate involved with the color of skin and the ignorance of man.
@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
17 Nov 08
Both of my older children had to go testify in a court case against one of their classmates who threatened and then beat up another classmate on their bus. The classmate was white, the kids threatening and throwing punches were hispanic. This kid was beaten so badly he was in the hospital for a week and then his parents pulled him out of the school! It was really scary because some of those kids will gather in groups and harrass anybody who is not like them. Something had to be filed against the parent of the kid who beat the other one because she was going down to the bus stop to harrass and glare at any of the kids who ended up having to testify. It was awful, and my kids did nothing wrong. I don't understand it myself.
• United States
17 Nov 08
That must have been horrible for your kids. It's also a reminder that racism and bullying are learned behaviors. Obviously, these kids learned how to intimidate from their mother, at least.
@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Yes, it still happens. I haven't really experienced myself although I HAVE had people ask me where I'm from - which is obnoxious. I notice a lot of people complain about racial hate FROM white people, but here where I live, kids including mine have been made fun of for BEING white. It doesn't make sense either way. It is chilling to realize that something you never thought of before is happening and happening often. Honestly too, some of those people need to realize that not everybody who is anti-Obama feels that way due to any race issue. Some people just did not agree with his platform and policies and view of the future of America, that's all. It's a moot point anyway, he got elected.
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I'm sorry your children have to go through that. It is really sad no matter which side of the fence it is on. I have no problem if anyone voted against Obama because they didn't like his political ideas. But, I volunteered on the campaign and actually had someone tell me they would never vote for a black man.
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@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I think it is rotten and small minded to vote either FOR or AGAINST somebody based on the color of their skin. When I was growing up, my parents did not teach me to group or separate anybody based on something like that. I teach my youngest daughter that differences can be seen in how people treat you, there is NO fundamental difference in skin color at all. I have told her that sometimes somebody may belong to a different culture, and therefore they may speak a different language or their families may follow different traditions (ie celebrating hanukkah or kwanza or something else instead of christmas) but they are still a person with needs and likes and dislikes who needs love and comfort just like she does. What did you think of working on the campaign? I actually have a few friends who directly helped with one campaign or another. I am not that politically motivated but I find it interesting how much enjoyment they all seemed to get out of it.
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@murderistic (2279)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Nope, it's not just on MyLot, I had to explain to my own father (who is half Lebanese and a dire Republican) why Obama was actually not an Arab and why just because his father was Muslim it didn't change the fact that he is actually a Christian. And some African-American girl put out a video all over the internet with her and her young daughter saying "f--- Obama" and stammering on about how he's not the first Black president.
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
My mom didn't like Obama either, then all of the hate that Palin stirred up during her rallies talking about pro-American and whatnot made my mom jump sides. It's really sad that people hate just because race and religion. I am so shocked about all the young children talking about Obama should be killed and calling him names, my parents would have beat me within an inch of my life if I talked like that as a child.
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@1grnthmb (2063)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I read an article yesterday that predicted that the racial hate of the 60's were going to come back because of this. It is sad that people are so bigoted. I may not perticular like a person but I would never be mad at someone else for liking them.
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
It is really sad that we will regress. It's ok not to like someone, I don't like a lot of people but to not like someone because the color of their skin is just crazy.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Even decades from now we will always be discussing race and debating whether or not is actually present in society. The fact is yes it is...and it is not just among caucasins and african americans. It is also present among both of those mentioned ethnicities and Mexicans, Indians, etc. The problem is when people refuse to empathize with others in general. Luckily i was raised in a household with parents who went through the bussing era and witnessed the violence as neighborhoods integrated and still did not pass their fear of racial integration on my brothers and I. In fact when I was in school and in our history class the subjects came up I asked my parents questions and through our discussions we both learned a little more about things. Also, the tension will always be there because no matter what the generations did or went through the present day people can never be able to erase it, ease it nor alleviate it. I watched a show on PBS on African American history and the historian tried to trace back the lineage of several famous black americans. Some they were able to go back as far as Africa and some they could only go back as far as the registers of slave owners. And I found it most disgusting and sad that this was the case. But I am glad I watched the show. Because I think it was Morgan Freeman...who summed it up as saying something along the lines of no matter how it was we got here as a society, even through the hurt, we need to come together and procede into the future (like I said it was not a direct quote, but his words were similar to this) And on Maya Angelou (who I have to say changed my life through the power of her words and evidence of her life) when she was asked if she knew her great, great, great + grandfather was a white man and how she felt about it, she said it was no secret in her family and (similar to what Freeman said) this is a part of who she is. Now if this is the case that racial tension can lead to more violence for America...this is a sad day and times. Our ancestors (black and white) who fought for everyone to be seen as equal will have fought in vain. There will always be (what my father refers to as) Klax Kluck Klingmen and there will always be black supremists. But my answer to these groups are to lock them in a room and let them sort out the best way to use violence as an answer. My parents taught me better and I feel sorry for anyone who believes that one race is stronger than another.
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• United States
16 Nov 08
The only way we will completely get rid of racism is when we completely breed the races out of our societies. I will say that as a white person who lives in a primarily black area, I have endured a lot ofA slurs from the black commuity, especially after our state came down on the McCain side. Apparently it boggled peoples minds that anyone could have voted against Obama, and it must be "all those white (fill in your slur here) people" . I have heared a lot of this on the public transportatin systems, not all of it directed at me personally, but often intentionally within hearing distance/Volume. So if we must still discuss race, which I think we shouldn't even mess with anymore. Just remember that it goes all ways and if you voted for Obama because he is black, you are just as racist as if you didn't vote for him because he is black. And in either case you shot yourself in the foot because he is just as much white as he is black as he was raised by his white mother. I know there are people out there who are racist, but we do need to be a little careful of how we throw that term around. A lot of people in recent years have been painted as raceist becuse they beleive in principals that someone else feels will adversly affect one group. e.g. Someone who feel all immigrants should come in through legal means and those who break the law and come here illegally should be deported, is often painted as anti-hispanic. People who five years ago suggested that Fanny and Freddy stop insisting on banks making risky loans to people who where unlikely to be able to repay them were painted as racist because people felt that would unfairly target minoritys. (when the actual target was people who wouldn't be able to pay the loan back) People who critisized Jeremia Wright for suggesting that the US government spread the AIDS virus were called racist becaus people said they were attacking the black church. The list goes on here, but my point is that anytime someone has a policy differance and someone can find a way to make it look racist, they do. etc.etc.etc.
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I suppose that you are probably correct with "The list goes on here, but my point is that anytime someone has a policy differance and someone can find a way to make it look racist, they do. etc.etc.etc. " I think what upset me most with my support of Obama was that people especially here didn't not think it was fine that I had made my political choice based on policy rather than skin color but, I accepted their choice based on policy.
@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
17 Nov 08
[i]e.g. Someone who feel all immigrants should come in through legal means and those who break the law and come here illegally should be deported, is often painted as anti-hispanic. People who five years ago suggested that Fanny and Freddy stop insisting on banks making risky loans to people who where unlikely to be able to repay them were painted as racist because people felt that would unfairly target minoritys. (when the actual target was people who wouldn't be able to pay the loan back) [/i] This is an excellent point. I actually agree with both stances - that all immigrants should come in only through legal means and anybody who doesn't should be immediately deported. It hurts to see friends of mine struggle because they miss the cut off for ANY financial aid in ANY form by something like 50 dollars, but they cannot afford health insurance for their children. Then if their child gets seriously injured or ill, they then lose their home on top of not being able to even make a small dent in the medical bills, and they cannot NOT get their child medical treatment, right? Meanwhile immigrants qualify for medi-cal and they don't have to lose their home or have mounting bills in the hundres of thousands and have their credit ruined because they can't pay them. As far as not extending mortgages to people who could not be proven to have the income and income potential and credit history to pay them back - that is a WISE decision. Overturning that in favor of catering to people who NEVER would have qualified for ANY home loan has ruined things for even responsible people who were wise choices and who always pay their bills. Everybody's home is upsidedown now, or worth seriously less than appraised even just 3 years ago! Race doesn't play a part in either decision, in my opinion. As far as the illegals thing, that goes toward ANYBODY who did not come legally and attempt to gain citizenship. That person could be european or australian, they could be from india, israel, sudan, china, it doesn't matter. The same law should apply to everybody. As far as qualifying for a loan, the SAME expectations should be required of ANYBODY applying for a loan, regardless of where you live and regardless of your income. You can't look at someone who lives in Beverly Hills and makes 2 million dollars a year and automatically just say they qualify, any more than you can look at someone who lives in the middle of a ghetto and makes 20K a year and automatically say they DON'T qualify. I am sick of snap judgements like that, and both applicants should both be required to provide proof of assets and income, creditworthiness, etc. THEN a decision can be made.
@irisheyes (4372)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I live in a college town surrounded by a lot of other college towns. These little towns have been accepting students and professors of every race from all over the world for over half a century now and the people here really don't have race issues. After reading some of the responses on here, I'm pretty happy to have landed here. Not that I'm immuned to the fact that racism exists. I've seen a surprisingly blatant amount of it on the web (not Mylot so much although I do wonder about some of the responses I've seen.) It's sad to think that we've gotten so far past something truly evil and then to have it staring us in the face. I think it all has its roots in the old "divide and conquer". Where you had poor blacks and poor whites living together, the governing class generally told the whites they were better and kept control. Some people sat back, accepted their lot and bought into that falacy. Now, they see a black man from the Ivy League is president and they have to deal with the fact that they are nowhere as good as. They just can't deal with it. I'd feel sorry for them if they were not so damn ignorant and dumb.
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Excellent points. I guess being for a mixed big city I haven't really seen huge instances of racism although I have seen some. I know deep in my mind that no matter what Obama does, the ones that hate him will say it is wrong. If he is able to fix the economy (we know it is pretty messed up and if we don't work with each other nothing will work) the haters will try to say Bush fixed it.
@murderistic (2279)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I took a look at the KKK website just to see how freaked out they were... funny thing is, they are actually pretty happy about it, they think this is the wake up call that the white people really need. They're obviously expecting membership to go up and to get more funding... oi vey
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I heard that they had to shut down their site. I don't know why anyone would do that other than ignorance. I suspect they need more funding since they were just sued and will probably lose their headquarters over the jury award.
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• United States
17 Nov 08
I don't think so... I looked at it yesterday and it looked pretty much like it did the last time I looked at it (around 2005?) except now they have an online "news" show LOL. I watched one episode and they went on and on about how even though they respect all religions (and they clarified that the meant Christian religions, not any other religions), they were very angry with the pope because he encouraged the US to accept more immigrants. And then they had two little girls sing a song. I used to have a penpal at the KKK who I argued with... not sure why I even bothered at the time...
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16 Nov 08
So depressing that racism still exists - I really don't see how the colour of somebodies skin can be an issue and people who do have a problem with it should just grow up!
@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
You're so right! I wonder how people can teach their children how to hate but can't teach them how to read. Maybe some day.
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16 Nov 08
I know! So many people ahve their priorities in life wrong - they enjoy it so uch more if they stopped thinking about ways to hate others for reasons that are so trivial!
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• United States
16 Nov 08
Some people are very passionate about their political beliefs, so much that they can't disern from doing things to show their distaste or appreciation. Racism will never die, it doesn't matter who is the white house, people hate W for the color of his skin too.
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I can't believe that people hate this Bush (I'm assuming because you said "W") for the color of his skin there are so many other good reasons to dislike him.
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@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
17 Nov 08
LOL! I've never heard that somebody hates W for the color of his skin. I figure most people hate him for failed policies, for lying, for broken promises, etc etc. Of course it is also easy to place the blame for anything bad directly on the president in office, even if he wasn't directly responsible for what happened.
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• United States
16 Nov 08
i just dont get why his skin color is a factor in whether he will do a good job, all we can do is wait and see
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I agree, lets wait until he takes office and starts working before we want to attack him over everything.
@Anne18 (11034)
16 Nov 08
Its so sad when thnigs like this happen. I'm sure he will do really good. Its a shame a lot of awful fuss is made over politics and reglion
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I hope he does well this nation really could use a good leader right about now. We have way too many problems to worry about the color of someone. If only these people would put their hate and passion into helping America instead of hurting Her.
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@bmk188 (55)
• United States
16 Nov 08
You know it constantly amazes me just how ignorant many people in this country are when it comes to accepting the differences of people. They want people to look, act, feel, and think just like them. They put down and act cruelty against people of different colors and their differences. I agree with the responder who said, "thank God we are not all the same." I have no animosity towards Obama because of the color of his skin. I have problems toward all politicians because it seems they are good at making promises they are unable to keep. Then, when they make mistakes, they like to dance around them with nonsense explanations. I have limited expectations of our leaders. I am just glad it is not me in their seats. The pressure they are under and endure is much more then I would want on my shoulders. Racism is problem I do not see resolved any time soon. Racism will be around as long as people live here of different races because the ignorant people. It sad that we can evolve and overcome many different things, but this one remains.
@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Thank you for the great response, and welcome to mylot. I feel sorry for any of our leaders because I know that some would like to actually change this nation but with all of the partisan politics it makes it very difficult. I love your last statement it sums everything up so completely!
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@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
16 Nov 08
Upon initialy reading the thread title and the first sentence in the thread list, I thought this was a thread on political hatred. After reading the rest of the OP and the rest of the thread, I find it a discussion on racism. So I have to ask, what was the original intent of the topic, racism? Or political hatred? In order to repond properly, I can only do one or the other. Without that, I am only left with the option of trying to draw the distinction myself and try and write a reponse that does this and adresses some deep concerns of mine I think many people are already aware of. The article mentions a lot of racial incidents, but it also mentions some that don't say anything about race, simply about anti-Obama incidents. I think the generalization of anti Obama sentiments and incidents is misleading and unfair. It makes the conclusion that to be anti-Obama is to be racist. I can point you to people who are anti Obama by the score who are black, white, Indian, hispanic, asian, etc. One of the strongest calls for a revolt and revolution I saw imediately following the election was written by a black man. I posted it in here and the people in hre imediatly jumped on it as a racist statement, though mo mention of race was made in the call. I left out the race of the person who wrote it becaue I didn't feel it was relevent, I just assumed people would read it and realize the political devide it represented and frustration with the current state of the system. Much to my chagrin however, people made the auto-assumption it was about race, when it was about constitutional ideology in itself. It is sad and damaging that the media is hyper focused on the racce issue. It leads people away from the real issues and ties in patriot groups like mine with racist groups and bundles us as "right wing nuts" or "white right wing racist extremists" when in indisputable fact, the racist element is marginal when compaired to the larger scope of the patriot movement. Race only apears to be the major issue because that is all you see reported on, and people assume because they saw it on TV and in the paper it must be widespread, when in fact it's only incdental. There are thousands of car crashes every day, compaired to relatively sparse plane crashes, yet if you went entirely by the media, you would believe plane crashes to be far more common than car crashes as you don't hear about them as much. What you don't hear about is growing oposition to an ever growing intrusive fedeal government and the slow disolving of the republic. There are a number of states that have passed 10th amendment adherence resolutions, effectively nuetralizing the federal government's authority over them and reasserting their soverignty under their 10th amendment rights and asserting their rights to refuse executive directives. But I'll bet most of you aren't even aware this revolution is happening are you? But I'll bet you can cite the race incidents that happen ver batum. I am absolutely terrified over the fact that race is being so promoted in the media with out the patriot movement being given equal time. It leads the public, with out proper information, to believe that we are all about race, that the brewing revolution among the states and people ready to fight back, are doing so because of racial motives. It essentialy assures that groups like mine and people like me will be branded as hate mongerers, when in fact, our movement trancends race, gender, ethnicicty and age entirely. It marginalizes and neutralizes a cause that our nation's survival now depends on.
@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I'm sorry this discussion sort of took on a life of its own. The article states several times in specific that people are pissed off because Obama is president for no other reason than he is black bi-racial whichever you prefer. When someone is saying "that n*gger should be killed" I take that as racial, but, when everyone keeps talking about how Obama needs to lead from the center well that I take as political. But, all of the people who would like to complain about Obama leading when I must add that he hasn't even taken office yet, I must ask them, when did this Bush lead from the center? When did they demand him to? They didn't because he was from their party. More people have responded to this than I thought, I have had discussions with people here that are still upset that we are still seeing discussions about Obama's religion and place of birth and how much hate there still is. It amazes me that this has not only been political but also about race. I have no problem with people questioning the president or other leaders but damn ya'll let them man take office first.
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@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
16 Nov 08
the fact that the thread took a racial life of it's own furthers my point I guess. People saw the racial elements in the story and went with it, ignoring the rest. Did bush govern from the center? Absolutely not, I'll admit, I gritted my teeth and supprted him for a while,but the more he did, the more i realized how wrong I was and how much the whole system is lurching away from the republic platform and further towrds a very different America. I WILL NOT make thatmistake with this administration. I will watch it and call violations and ideology conflicts as soon as I see them, even before he takes office. We just lost 8 years in a fight for the founders vision for the nation, I'll be damned if we lose another 4 or 8, if we do, it will not be because of me or the mistakes I made in the last 8 years. I am having a hard enough time reconciling my mistakes as it is, I will not make any more. Even if it brands me as a "terrorist" or "extremist". The cost is simply too great. If he suprises me and abides the constitution, overturns a number of things, stops other things, then he will have my praise and support. But I will, in the meantime be putting in safe guards before it is too late this time.
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@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
17 Nov 08
It is sad and damaging that the media is hyper focused on the race issue. It leads people away from the real issues and Yes it is!! I cannot count the number of times I heard references to BOTH race and gender in this political nightmare leading up the the election! Nobody is blind here so I don't think anybody needs to mention either one. Every time I was turning around people were talking about 'black man' and 'that woman' (either Hilary or Palin, who knows) but it was petty and discouraging to have those things focused on instead of what good they might do for our country. I will admit freely that I disagree with some of Obama's platform but I want to believe that he will try to be a fair and non-partisan leader. I have to hope as much, I want to be positive about the future of America. We cannot afford to have things get any worse, and divisive anger and people tearing each other down isn't going to help at all. I want the government to keep to politics and global and countrywide issues, not get involved at all in my personal life as well. I am totally against anything 'big-brotherish' as far as government intrusiveness.
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• Canada
16 Nov 08
Well when you consider that many blacks or near blacks voted for Obama because he was black, then you can understand the hate. Now if maybe some of the black people voted for McCain, maybe like 20 percent or 30 percent (I do not know how many did, I suspect it was maybe less then 1 percent) then I would say that this is just sour grapes. But when they all go e nmasse and vote for him (and for some older ones it was the first time) because he is part black, that is wrong. I blame the Media who said he was so wonderful and never made a mistake and also all those TV dramas were the head person and arbitator of morality had to be black. It is wrong to hate someone and burn crosses, and call them the n word. And it is just as wrong for a minister of a church to curse white people, to say g- damn America, and think that he is a holy man of God. Before the election, I thought that it is in a man;s heart that was his character and I hated it when someone said all blacks are stupid, all Germans are bossy, all Italians love to sing, all Native Americans love nature, etc. I did not like stereotypes and I hoped that this election would prove me right. Sadly it did not.
• Philippines
16 Nov 08
I cant relate much on this topic because it usually happen in the US. But I just love to read discussions like this because its good to know about whats happening all over the world. and of course Ive read a lot about racism. And about obama, I didnt know that a lot hates him. I thought that people love him so much thats why he won.