Wal-Mart Good or Bad?

@Arkie69 (2156)
United States
November 18, 2008 10:02am CST
Do you shop at Wal-Mart? Do you think Wal-Mart is good or bad for the people? Personally I think they are bad for the people for more than one reason. For one thing they will cheat the heck out of you if you don’t watch their prices very closely. I proved this to my Daughter yesterday. She bought a 24 oz bottle of bug spray for $4.87. = .20 per oz. Her and her husband used the small bottle and started back to Wal-Mart to get a larger jug. On their way they stopped at the local Ace Hardware store. They noticed they had the very same thing in a 1.1 gallon jug for $8.47. = 140.8 oz @ .06 per oz.. They went on to Wal-Mart and checked the price for the 1.1 gallon jug of the same spray. It was $11.84 = .08 per oz. That is a savings of $3.37 on the 1.1 gallon jug of the very same spray at the Ace hardware store. This is just one way Wal-Mart is hurting us. Another way Wal-Mart is hurting us is most of the stuff they sell is a cheaper quality imported stuff. It doesn’t last as long as it should and most doesn’t do as good a job as it should. This means we must replace the items more often which winds up costing us more money than if we paid a little more for quality stuff. Another way Wal-Mart is hurting us if the fact all this cheap junk they are importing from all over the world is costing us a lot of American jobs. It also takes a lot of cash dollars out of our economy and puts them into other countries which is good for them but bad for us. The people, the general public are the only ones that can control things like this. We need to form consumer groups and search out things like this. If enough people would stop buying this junk not only would prices come down but people would start making more of what we consume here in the US. For one thing we need to stop buying anything from any company that has moved out of the US to other countries. It doesn’t matter if their home office is in the US they are still exporting our money right out of the US. This is not good for the people of the United States and needs to be stopped.
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@angemac23 (2005)
• Canada
19 Nov 08
Wal Mart is very bad for a lot of people. They treat thier workers like crap and they are destroying small towns around the world by putting the local businesses out of business and taking over. They are causing a lot of damage.
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@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
19 Nov 08
Finally!!! Someone that isn't afraid to speak the truth. Between you and me I don't think there are very many people that can see what you and I do. Wal-Mart and any other store that sells cheap imported stuff is hurting this country and her people bad in several ways. I look at my own little home town here and I can see with my own eyes exactly what you say about Wal-Mart putting local businesses out of business. Our little main street is 7 blocks long and not long ago it was lined on both sides with small Pop and Mom stores. You could buy everything from food to auto parts. There was a lot of competition and prices were kept down. Our free interprize system will work if you can keep people like Wal-Mart out of it. No small store can compete with them and this leaves them wide open to charge all the market will bare. That's our problem with the oil companies and the only reason they can jack the price of gasoline up to over $4.00 a gallon. By the way I am loving this "Gas War" between the big oil companies. In case you haven't noticed that is what is bringing the price of gasoline down. They finally went too far and went over what people could afford to pay for gasoline. We had to cut back on how much we buy and we are staying cut back and that is costing then dearly.
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• United States
24 Nov 08
What is so great about mom and pop shops anyway? There are little stores filled with outrageously priced merchandise that a lot of people can not afford to buy anyways and they hire little to no one! Larger stores like Walmart and such employ hundreds of people each on the other hand. As far as treating their workers poorly, I disagree there too, I used to work at a Walmart and as I remember I was treated quite well.
• United States
24 Nov 08
Oh yeah, and I forgot to add that mom and pop shops are horrible to shop in anyway because whenever you go into one of them the owner and/or person working there always watches everyone like a hawk the entire time. This is not done in a helpful or friendly way, this is done in a piercing stare sort of way that makes people uncomfortable as if the owner/person working there thinks that everyone is going to rip them off or something.
@jamesgrub (673)
• United States
19 Nov 08
i also agree that walmart prices can sometimes be higher. and plus i don't like going to the walmart by my house because its always so full of people. when you are trying to shop there's too many people and you just get more frustrated. i rarely ever go to walmart and if i do its usually because someone else wants to. i cant even remeber the last thing i bought from there.
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@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
19 Nov 08
Evidently you are smarter than a lot of people. Sounds like you pay a lot more attention to what you are doing. Most people look at the price and really think they are getting a bargain. I know what kind of bargain you can get at Wal-Mart. O ran over a ladies mail box one night when the street was slick. The next day I made a special trip to Wal-Mart to get her another mail box and post. It was on one of the small steel post. Wal-Mart had one . The mail box was priced at $9.95 and the4 post was also $9.95. I didn't buy it for some reason. The next day I was in the local hardware store and they had the same exact mail box and post both for $9.95. My Daughter buys a lot of food items from Wal-Mart and I keep a very close eye on it. I don't want any imported food from any country at any price. You won't find a lot of imported food but you will find some. Just because it says Del Monty or Kraft does not mean it is made in the US.
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@phoenix25 (1542)
• United States
19 Nov 08
Well Arkie, I hope you don't like bananas. You'll be hard-pressed to find bananas that are not imported.
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@phoenix25 (1542)
• United States
19 Nov 08
I have started to not shop at Wal-mart when I can avoid it. It takes money away from small businesses. Of course, they are going to have some items that are more expensive than they would be at other stores. All stores take losses on some items to get customers into the store so they will spend money on some of the items that they make a profit off of. Here, it is hard not to buy things at Wal-mart somtimes as I live in a rural area and sometimes places don't carry what I want at an affordable price or they are closed at an inconvenient time.
@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
19 Nov 08
In the smaller stores you are more likely to get goods that are made in the US. Any time a store sells a product that is made in the US it helps our economy in several ways. As a general rule you will get a better quality item that will serve your needs better and longer. Buying "Made in the USA" helps keep our work force working. Most important to me is the fact it just may help feed some kids that their Dad might not have a job otherwise. We are already seeing the effects of buying imports in our job market right now.
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@apples99 (6562)
• United States
19 Nov 08
I generally like shopping at walmart, but lately of noticed the prices in my areas walmart have gone up and not just a little but a lot and I think its getting really ridiculous how much they are starting to charge for things, I mean stuff that should cost $4.50 now cost $5.50 example I was reasontly shopping at walmart to buy a few things like tooth paste and mouth was so I go over to where they sell there hygiene stuff and I want to grab a small bottle of mouth was I forget how many ounces but anyway it was small enough to fit in a medium suite case and it cost $3.79 instead of $2.49 and I thought to myself what for this small bottle and on top of that they dont even have lay away anymore, I dont use lay away that often but I think walmart should keep that option available to its costumers, I wonder why they would take out lay away? whats up with that.
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@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
19 Nov 08
You better start watching prices at Wal-Mart a lot closer in the near future. The prices are going up on most of the imported stuff because of this world wide economy crunch. I never thought the cheap imported stuff was a bargain anyway.
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@guybrush (4660)
• Australia
19 Nov 08
We don't have Wal-Mart in Australia, but we have Kmart - which is probably the same sort of thing. I think we get conned, because we pop in for something and then imagine we need a whole lot of other stuff. By the time you get to the checkout, it's surprising how things have added up and you get quite a large bill for a lot of junk you didn't have on your list! I think they are great for books, though - our Kmart has them for nearly half the price of the bookshops, and I'm happy to pay $19-$22 instead of $35-$45.
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@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
19 Nov 08
K Mart operates about the same as Wal-Mart. At one time here K Mart sold a little better quality goods than Wal-Mart.
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@spalladino (17921)
• United States
18 Nov 08
Unfortunately, I live in a rural area in Florida and have only two choices for purchasing groceries...U-Save and Wal-Mart. I buy some things at U-Save which is closer, but I save money by purchasing other items at Wal-Mart. We only have one other option when it comes to clothes, too...that would be Bealls, a closeout store. Unless we want to drive for an hour or more to one of the larger areas that surround us, this is our situation.
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@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
18 Nov 08
With food items especially canned goods you can do pretty good with Wal-Mart if you watch the prices real close. Stay away from the so called bargain brands though on canned goods. They are a poor quality and will cost you almost as much as name brands. Not that many food items are imported but there is still a lot of junk that is produced in the US. Even a lot of the name brand clothing is produced outside the US and is a poor quality.
• United States
19 Nov 08
First, Walmart is the least expensive place to buy most any item. If you find an item at another store that is not on sale and cost less then what it does at Walmart, all you have to do is bring that to Walmart's attention and they will meet or beat that costs. Also, I compare prices of most everything that I buy at different stores all the time and most of the time, Walmart already has the lowest price, so your first claim is false. "Another way Wal-Mart is hurting us is most of the stuff they sell is a cheaper quality imported stuff. It doesn’t last as long as it should and most doesn’t do as good a job as it should. This means we must replace the items more often which winds up costing us more money than if we paid a little more for quality stuff." Hmmm...again I would have to disagree. I buy many things from Walmart and I do not see this problem. Most all of my clothes are bought from Walmart. They last me for years and years without wearing out! My husband buys tools from Walmart, again, he has had all of his tools for years and they are still in excellent condition even though he uses them often. I buy most of my kid's toys from Walmart, and those toys are also still in good shape, even the ones that they have had for a long time. I have an instant camera that I bought from Walmart four years ago that I still use and it still works great. I have cookware sets from Walmart that were bought ten years ago that are still in excellent condition even though I use them almost every day!...I could go on and on. I have always gotten good quality merchandise from Walmart so I see that claim as simply a matter of your opinion, but not fact. As for your last claim, many, many, many American businesses import things from all over the world. If we boycotted all of them, you would most likely hurt the American economy even more. You point out that by Walmart importing from other countries that it costs us jobs, well, Walmart also employs thousands of people!!! If Walmart and every other business in America that imports things from other countries was boycotted and went out of business, that would put hundreds of thousands of Americans who work in those places out of a job as well!
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• United States
19 Nov 08
As far as quality of products is concerned, I can't say that I have had any more problems with their products then I have with items purchased elsewhere. Walmart is pretty much my one-stop shop, but I can't say that I like it. I live in a very rural area and as it is, I have to drive 20 minutes to get there. If I want to go somewhere else, I have to drive another 30 minutes. It's just not worth it. A quick comment on how they treat their employees. I have actually worked there for a very short period of time and I can honestly say that, at least where I was, we didn't have any problems. They actually have an open door policy which means that you don't have to go to the hierarchy. You can go straight to the store manager with your problem if you want. And I know it's not just "a pretty speech" it's actually true. I have done it. As far as importing goods, I guess I would tend to agree with you, but I think at this point, the whole trend is pretty much irreversible. We live in a global economy and we will have to somehow find the way to make it work. It is not going away. I think it is a bit utopic to think that you can have a closed market. There are certain products that we have gotten used to having that are simply not available here. Not everything can be replaced by a synthetic version of the real thing.
@ANTIQUELADY (36468)
• United States
18 Nov 08
another bad thing they make a ghost town out f downtown in small towns like where i live. they put all the mom & pop stoures out of buisness. anything new that comes into town goes to the edge of town where wal-mart is because there's more traffic out that way. there are hardly any buisnesses left in what use to be downtown.
@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
18 Nov 08
It's the same here. There are several towns close to me that the main street was the center of everything but Wal-Mart would come in a build a store and it isn't long till the main street is a ghost. Out with the old and in with the new I guess but I sure don't agree with it.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36468)
• United States
18 Nov 08
me either. there's no where to buy anything here unlessu go to wal-mart. you'd like to at least be able to check prices other places. i bought a vacuum at wal=mart just a few months ago. it has already quit & i had to buy another. that's a bunch of crap but i didn't save my receipt so i wasn't too smart. they didn't have but a 3 month guarantee on it in the store. by the time i shipped it to the company it would probably cost about as much as the new did because i just bought a cheap one this time.
• United States
19 Nov 08
I forgot to mention the vacuum cleaner. As far as I have seen, the only vacuums Walmart sells are NAME BRAND, so if you got a bad one, it doesn't reflect on Walmart, and could have happened no matter where you bought that brand from. The only vacuum I've seen at walmart that is their own brand is a little hand held vac by Durabrand for about $19. It works pretty well, but it's just a small hand held.
@cbreeze (1207)
• United States
19 Nov 08
I remember when Wal-Mart's marketing strategy was that they sold goods made in America. Well that went by the wayside a long time ago. Now they drive their vendors out of business with the demands they place on them. So they are harmful in many ways. Additionally, it is well documented that they are unfair to their employees; low wages, no insurance, etc. I am glad to see Target becoming a real threat to Wal-Mart. I think the reason for the threat is that people want affordability but they also want quality. Target's inventory is a better quality in my opinion.
• United States
20 Nov 08
I absolutely have to disagree on this. I can tell you from experience that the wages are very competitive for that type of work and they do offer benefits. They have their negative points, but let's not accuse them of things they are not doing.
@cbreeze (1207)
• United States
20 Nov 08
I'm just going off of what I heard. I don't have first hand knowledge of the wages and benefits, so if you say they are fair and competitive, I believe you. Thank you.
• United States
19 Nov 08
I am not sure about the exportation of money.. i usually dont get involved in things that i ahve no control over but I do know that every now and then walmart has good deals... and other times they double the price of things that other places sell for half as cheap.. I think alot of places do that... I go to walmart, winndixie , publix, dollar store, and sometimes freds... I notice that they all do a good job at selling good deals but they switchit up so much..you relaly have to do alot of shopping around..
• United States
19 Nov 08
OH wow. I didnt know that. That's just not right though. Somehow there needs to be a balance right.. A negotiation right? Are they doing nothing because nobody is figureing this out yet? maybe. I guess maybe people should go on strike and demand better pay.
• United States
19 Nov 08
So is that why walmart sells for cheap? but they dont really, they double up on some prices i've found. is that gfor their own profits.
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• United States
19 Nov 08
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• United States
19 Nov 08
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• United States
19 Nov 08
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• United States
19 Nov 08
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@nicholejade (2430)
• Canada
18 Nov 08
Just because of one little price difference you can't go and say that Wal-Mart is bad. Doesn't matter where you go prices are always going to be different. I have gone to places where things were cheaper than WalMart and sometimes Walmart has been the cheapest. The key here is shop around before you buy. I thought alot of consumers already knew that. Another thing with cheap garments. I have never had a problem with any clothing articles that I have bought there to buying somewhere else. Maybe you just go through your cloths faster than I do but I have never had a problem other than the normal wear and tear that happens with every article of clothing. So I am for Walmart as I have nothing bad to say about them. I actually do like them.
@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
19 Nov 08
Wal-Marts prices is the least of the problem. The way they conduct their business is what is hurting this country and the people. Even if you do save a couple of dollars by shopping at Wal-Mart it is the damage you do to our own country buying from them. If you buy imported stuff no matter where you buy you are helping to keep the unemployment rate up. Maybe even helping to keep others from being about to feed their kids the way they should. Importing into this country no matter where it comes from is doing a lot more damage than it is good. That's what I have against Wal-Mart or any store that sells imported goods.
• United States
19 Nov 08
But the other stores also import their products! Why do you think it is only Walmart?
• Canada
19 Nov 08
There are so many stores and outlets that import their products. It is on very rare occasion that you will actually find stores that have their own Country imports. That is what this world is about importing and exporting. I live in Canada and I can honestly say there are not to many places that are strictly Canadian imported. Cause sorry to say there are other countries that have better exports. When you go to the supermarket think of the vegetables and the fruits that you buy. Like kiwi, papaya. They are not grown in Canada and the US.
@laglen (19779)
• United States
19 Nov 08
I would be a little more agreeable to your argument if we didn't have the ability to shop in other places. That is your own responsibility to find your better prices. Also, bear in mind how many items they carry. Again, it is up to you to check price, quality etc. I shop at Walmart all the time, but not just Walmart. There are things at our dollar store that is a better deal. If I am looking for a higher ticket item, I shop around, this is when quality means more. The deals you get or don't get are up to you.
@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
19 Nov 08
I agree with you 100%. However a lot of people have been conned into believing Wal-Mart has the cheapest prices on everything and this just isn't true. We have Dollar General here and they are a much better deal on name brand items. Even with them you have to pay attention to prices. If you don't they can hit you to for a higher price on a few items. I'll tell you something else Wal-Mart will do. They have two different quality of most items they sell. One if a pretty good quality and the other is a lot cheaper and a poorer quality. They will see the better item first and then replace it with the poorer quality item and keep the price right where it was. They do it with food items and also with cloths. They do this mostly on items people buy most often.
@jackiew (915)
• Canada
19 Nov 08
Sorry to hear you don't like walmart but i just love it.It is my one stop shop.I can get just about everything i need in the store.I like their products and i really think the prices are resonable compared to other department stores.I buy the majority of my clothes there as well.
@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
19 Nov 08
My wife loved Wal-Mart and spent a lot of money in their stores. She also belonged to the Sam's Club which is Wal-Mart. She bought a lot of stuff that wasn't what it should have been too. She would get mad when it happened but she kept going back for more.
@Lindalinda (4112)
• Canada
19 Nov 08
I used to boycott Walmart. Actually the first time I set foot into one of their stores was in Germany when my place of employment sent me there for 6 months. It was the only big store in the neighbourhood where we lived. I hear in the meantime Walmart has pulled out of Germany because the employees did not buy into the Walmart philosophy and culture. In Canada in the Province of Quebec the Walmart stores also closed because the unions were getting a foothold and also because the employees opposed the Walmart culture. Quebec is the French speaking part of Canada. There are a few Walmart stores here where I live but I still dislike them, especially the poor old greeters. It puts me off as soon as I am approached by them. The point that you raise about exporting the manufacture of goods to other countries is well taken, but I think in North America and Europe we have priced ourselves right out of the market. Most companies now farm out the manufacture of goods to China, India, Thailand and other countries. Some people work for 1 dollar per hour, we could not compete with those wages. But we are to blame in part if we get shoddy merchandise and poisoned food and toys. We want ever cheaper goods and squeeze the companies overseas to produce them so they resort to very dangerous practices. If we were not so greedy and materialistic we could afford to buy goods manufactured at home where people could work and earn a decent living. In the community where I live there is a strong movement going to shop locally for produce, toys and clothes. These goods often cost twice as much as those in Walmart and other Big Box Stores so it means you buy less. Christmas gifts is a good example. Instead of a mountain of toys manufactured by underpaid workers in a foreign country I will get my granddaughter one quality toy. By the time she opens all the presents from the other grandparents, parents, aunts and uncles she will still have a lot. Maybe her parents will put some of the stuff away so she does not get greedy.
@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
19 Nov 08
It's been 45 years since I was in Europe but I know here in the US you are right. We have priced ourselves right out of the market. A lot of it is caused by the labor unions striking for higher wages when a lot of the workers were already making more than they were worth. I have been in Wal-Mart twice in the past 10 years but sometimes my Daughter buyes something for me there. They get very little of my money though and wouldn't get that if I was able to do my own shopping elsewhere.
• United States
18 Nov 08
Sounds like you had a bad experience with Walmart. Walmart is the store I shop at the most. The employees have always been very helpful and I get good bargains. They are quality merchandise and I love shopping in their grocery store. For me I like Walmart although there are other stores I do shop at on occasion.
@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
18 Nov 08
All I can say id if it works for you then do it. I still buy a few things there but I had rather not.
@cream97 (29163)
• United States
19 Nov 08
It is good when you are catching their sales.. But it is bad, when you are over spending, on something that you don't need. Or when you spend all your money up, and then have nothing left to spare for other things that you may need it for. It is good for the holidays, when you are catching sales of the sales paper..
@mimico (3618)
• Philippines
19 Nov 08
I guess Wal Mart wants to make the most of their reputation. Everyone thinks that shopping at Wal Mart can save a lot of money. Too bad they don't live up to that anymore. Perhaps some of the items at Wal Mart are cheaper though? We don't have Wal Mart on my country and I've never been to one. But I'd still like to check it out when I see it. Thanks for the heads up!
@katrhina23 (1282)
• United States
19 Nov 08
There are only very few supermarkets here in my place. And the cheapest I guess is walmart. Well some of their stuff. But I wont go to another supermarket if there is only like .05 cents difference. So most of the time I would end up purhcasing everything in walmart. Plus the fact, that they have almost of the stuff that I need. the only thing i wouldnt buy from there maybe are elctronics. The store has a very linient policies for returns. So I wont buy those stuff.