Obama and Hannah Montana

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
December 1, 2008 10:00am CST
What does Obama and Hannah Montana have in common? Their fans. Look at footage from the Hannah Montana/Myley Cyrus concerts, more specifically, the fans. Add a few years or decades to their lives and you have the mindless worship of Obama. Myley Cyrus has no musical ability, nor is she any great dancer... Obama has no leadership ability, nor is he a great decision maker... But Myley Cyrus makes millions and so does Obama...why? The media. The media told little girls that Myley Cyrus was talented... and the mindless minions jumped and screamed. The media told the mindless minions that Obama is a great leader... and the mindless minions jumped and screamed. Case in point, the press told the mindless minions to be outraged that the RNC spent over $100,000 dressing Sarah Palin. The mindless minions were outraged. The press told the mindless minions that $5 Million dollars spent on window dressing for Obama's acceptance speech was no big deal... so the mindless minions shrugged and said, "no big deal". Can anyone think of one example where the mindless minions doesn't march in perfect step with the press when it comes to Obama? They can't get themselves to say a single negative thing about him. When it comes to voting, there seems to be little difference between the Obamabots and preteen girls at a pop concert.
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12 responses
• United States
1 Dec 08
Hey now, why are you picking on Miley Cirus? My kids watch her tv show all the time. Gabe, my 8 year old, loves her. He thinks she is cute...awwww! lol Seriously though, to answer your question, I do not know why people follow Obama blindly and mindlessly. Regardless of what the press says or does not say, I have don't understand blindly and mindlessly following anything or anybody. I can't think of any examples where Obama has not had tons of mindless followers either. I am not saying that he is a good president or a bad one, I'll reserve that judgement for later to see how he does in that office after he has been there for a while, but regardless I will not blindly believe everything he says or blindly decide that everything he does is good just because he did or said it.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Be careful if you ever agree with anything he says or does on this board, betsyraeduke, or ye too shall be accused of being a mindless minion!
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
1 Dec 08
I agree with you MSV. I don't like cheap shots when folks disagree on an issue. It doesn't mean you're a racist or a mindless minion...it means that you have an opinion.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 Dec 08
Mindless minions and Obamabots aren't people with opinions that differ from mine, Spaldino, they are people who mindlessly support anything he says or does and can't seem to ever find anything negative about him. No president deserves unquestioning loyalty, that is dangerous to freedom and makes the mindless minion look like an idiot.
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@stealthy (8181)
• United States
1 Dec 08
About the only thing I can disagree with you about is that I think you are doing Myley a disservice with this comparison. She is more deserving of the attention of her minions than Obama is. You do point out quite well the lopsided way the media treat the two parties. For doing the exact same things the conservatives are made to look really bad and the liberals are given a pass if not praised.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
1 Dec 08
The difference is that even my 6 years old grand daughter knows that Hannah Montana is not real yet the people who support Pres Obama think he is the real thing.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Don't you ever tire of drinking from that cup of sour grapes? Or maybe they've fermented and you've gotta buzz. Mindless minions is your personal opinion and one I obviously don't agree with. Crowds of optimistic supporters, gathering in a positive atmosphere to listen to a positive message, does not mindless idol worship make. I don't recall one time that potential voters left an Obama or Biden rally in fear...or with their hearts filled with anger and hatred. However... What does a McCain or Palin rally have in common with the KKK? Mindless minions jumping & down, screaming hateful things...carrying ugly signs...feeding on the fear mongering that was being spoon fed to them by these irresponsible *leaders*. Many of these *lovely* people were hostile to anyone who tried to interview them before and after these nauseating events...wonder why that was? Maybe it was because they didn't have white hoods to hide behind so their hatred was out there for all to see. I clearly don't consider myself to be mindless, Ted, and so I didn't need the media to tell me that over $150,000 spent on clothes, hair styling and makeup in less than two months was overly excessive. I didn't need the media to tell me that dressing Todd Palin and the kiddies on the campaign donor's dime was unethical and in violation of the rules...I was fully capable of figuring that out for myself. (What charities got all those clothes, by the way?) And, considering the amount of money Barack Obama was able to raise, no, I'm not going to get worked up about the cost of the victory rally...not because I'm a mindless Obamabot (and you know how ugly this k1ke finds that term) but because the rally was the final *show*...the grand finale...and the setting should have been just as grand. Tell me, Ted, do you also find the screaming fans who crowded every concert the Beatles ever gave to be mindless minions, too? After all, it was the media who told us those mop headed young men were great. Turns out they were. They did have talent which is why their popularity lasted for more than a few weeks. Had they been One Hit Wonders they wouldn't have survived. You keep going on and on about that leadership experience *as if* that's all that matters in an election. Obviously the voters didn't agree. That leadership experience was trumped by common sense...people are turned off by hate, fear and questionable ethics regardless of how much *leadership experience* someone has. It's a shame that John McCain didn't realize that. Keep in mind that I was *for* him before I was *against* him.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 Dec 08
Don't you ever get tired of painting anythign negative about your lord and master as "Sour Grapes"?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 Dec 08
PS... Is it "sour grapes" when I write in support or defense of Obama? Part of not being a mindless minion is the ability to speak out for and against a person. Something mindless Obamabots don't seem to be capable of doing.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Not doing that MSV...my KKK comparison comes from the personal experience of a couple of (white) college freshmen who went to a rally down here in Florida near their university. I posted about it after it happened. One of them is the daughter of my neighbor and she was so excited about the upcoming election and excited to go to that rally. She called her mom shortly after leaving early and told her that they left because the crowd had gotten so angry and so ugly that they became scared. Palin had a habit of firing folks up over Bill Ayers, Rev Wright and a couple of other things and the atmosphere became so tense that these four young women felt the need to get out of there. If Ted wants to compare happy crowds to a Miley Cyrus concert I have every right to compare ugly, screaming crowds that scare 18 year old girls to KKK rallies without being accused of playing the race card.
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@bbydollz (114)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Honestly I don't understand why you are so down on Miley Cyrus, She has had her ups and downs and also if you knew anything about her you would know that her mother does not allow her to become like all the other pop stars. Her mother teaches her that fame is not everything and so therefore Miley does not loose her head over all the fame and admiration she has accumulated. As for Obama I can't say much other than the fact that this country needs a good president and I do not feel that he is it. He has only been a senator for 36 months and now he is president. McCain has been around for a lot longer and I believe someone with experience and wisdom should have taken office, but hey who knows people may call me racist now, which is way far off. Every since this stupid election I have been picked on because I am white. People telling me that I am just mad because I'm white and Obama won. Honestly what has this world come too? I ask someone to slow down because children are playing and I get those remarks. I think and know that racism comes from every race and why should white people be targeted for being the only racist group. All I know is that all this is socialism people and I think we are all doomed whether we are white or black or whatever race.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 Dec 08
Read it again, it isn't Myley Cyrus that I'm down on, it's the fans who worship the ground these media created sensations walk on.
@bbydollz (114)
• United States
2 Dec 08
If you have ever taken sociology than you would know what I was saying about socialism. I never said he is a socialist. I said this is socialism. Anyways
• United States
2 Dec 08
First of all, if anyone assumes you are racist because you voted for John McCain they are an idiot and you shouldn't even bother to care about it. Second of all, you should do some more research on what socialism actually is before assuming that Obama is a socialist because other right wingers say he is.
@murderistic (2278)
• United States
2 Dec 08
First of all, I think this topic is absolutely ridiculous. Did you seem to forget that Barack Obama is the first African-American president? Do you realize that this is a symbol of complete integration for African-Americans? Did you ever see footage from MLK's "I have a dream"? Are you going to relate those people to Miley Cyrus fans? Come on. All president-elects have fans, and big crazy crowds, even John McCain had big crazy crowds at some of his rallys. Presidents can't be elected without fans. I agree that there is a certain height of fan mania related to past president-elects (although he may be competing with JFK) around Barack Obama but it is rightfully so considering the historic connotations that his election shows and ends the very long presidency of someone who many people are VERY tired of.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 Dec 08
There is a difference between eager supporters and worshipping masses. Yes, I have read and heard MLKs "I have a dream" speach. He spoke of judging people based on their character instead of the color of their skin. Isn't it sad that so many people spit in the face of MLK and judged Obama on the color of his skin and refused to judge the content of his character? If the only claim to fame Obama has is based on the color of his skin, then racism is alive and well, finding a comfortable home in the Democrat party.
• United States
2 Dec 08
I was referring to the crowds at MLK's speech. Obviously Obama didn't claim his fame by the color of his skin, if the people wanted to elect any African American person regardless of qualifications to office that bad, they have had their chance before and declined on it. The fact is that Barack Obama won the presidency DESPITE being black, not because he was black. That is what makes it so historical.
• United States
2 Dec 08
btw the most ridiculous part about this topic is that you are relating obsessed children who just want to have fun to so-called obsessed adults who are excited for a change and to show their support for the President. That just doesn't make sense to me.
• United States
1 Dec 08
*stunned* I couldn't agree more. This is the exact type of sheeplism I've been known to bark about. Mindless worship. Yeppers, Ted. Nailed it. *Bravo!*
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Ted, I believe that nearly every word you've written here could be slightly modified to apply to McCain and Palin supporters. Maybe it was different members of the press who told them all the great things about McCain and especially Palin and all the evil tings about Obama and Biden but there were mindless minions following them to be sure. You call Obama supporters, or most of them anyway, "Obamabots" so I think it's fair play for me to say there were also plenty of McCainiacs and Palinaddicts. As Spall said before me, I didn't need the media to tell me it was outrageous for the RNC to spend all that money to dress and make-up the Palin family. Also, the media didn't have to tell me she wasn't knowledgeable on many of the issues. On the other side of the coin, the media didn't tell me Obama had leadership ability or was a great decision maker. His first major decision after becoming the nominee was his choice of V.P. and he hit a home run in my opinion. McCain chose a woman thinking all the women who supported Hillary would be so shallow as to follow her regardless of her stance on the issues or qualifications for the job. What I'm mainly trying to say is there were voters who could be compared to pre-teen girls at a pop concert for both parties. The main difference is those who voted for Obama/Biden were fans of someone with a positive message and those who voted for McCain/Palin were fans of someone with a dark and frightening one. Annie
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 Dec 08
Are you kidding? Palin coudn't buy positive press. The press and the left were at her throat from the second she was named as McCain's running mate. Within the last few weeks, even members of the press have aired their disgust with how she was treated. Didn't it bother you in the least that the $150,000 spent on dressing Palin was supposed to be some kind of "outrage" while the press did nothing but drool all over Obama's $5 million dollar window dressing for 1 speech? Within 5 minutes the press had more information about Joe the Plumber than they dared expose about Obama. If it wasn't for blogs and "alternative" media, we never would have known a thing other than "Yes We Can" and "Change". And yes, there are mindless minions on the right. Just as there are lefties who can't seem to choke out a negative word about Obama, there are those on the right who refused to say anything negative about McCain... even after years of trashing him before he became the nominee. True, there was no reason to vote for Palin just because she's a woman, but did the left have to resort to calling her a c#%t or exposing their own sexism by saying she should be home instead of having a career? There isn't much reason to take NOW seriously on anythign after the total sexism they showed towards her... and no, not just because they campaigned against her. But you do bring up a good point, how many people were voting for Hillary JUST because she's a woman? Is there any difference between them and those who voted for Palin for the same reason? If there was anything proven by the campaigns it is that neither side has a corner on racism, sexism or any other bigotry.
@newtondak (3946)
• United States
1 Dec 08
It's all about being a "celebrity" - if you have the right charm and charisma - and the right people marketing you - you become famous - regardless of whether or not you have any talent at all!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 Dec 08
Oh, there absolutely are mindless minions for Palin and on the Republican side of the house. A mindless minion is merely someone who worships their candidate or politician of choice and refuses to acknowledge anything negative about them. Believe it or not, I really don't consider you a mindless minion. I admit that I get a little impatient with you and a few others here at Mylot because I expect more than the Kool Aid drinking I've seen lately from you. Disappointment doesn't equate to giving up on you though.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Kind of like the GOP's newest "rock star", Sarah Palin? To be sure she had and has far fewer "fans" than Obama but couldn't some of those who attended her rallies also be called "mindless minions"? Didn't the McCain campaign and the RNC bring Sarah and her family from Alaska and dress them up and tell them what to say? When she finally consented or was allowed, whichever the case may be, to give a few select interviews, when she was unable or unwilling to answer some very simple questions didn't her "fans" blame the media and in some cases cry sexism? Couldn't they be called mindless minions by some? When she used words and phrases like "anti-American", "Pallin' around with terrorists" and "people who found America so imperfect", didn't that work some of her followers into a frenzy? You don't have to answer that because I saw some of the interviews with rally attendees on my local news and they were spouting all kinds of hate speech. I have to agree with what Spallidino and others have said about those who went to the Obama and Biden rallies and coming away with positive and optimistic feelings. I was unable to attend any of the several rallies in my area but I know people who did go and I also saw the interviews on my local news afterwards and there was no hate or negativity towards McCain or anyone else, but words of hope and of feeling there's someone who may be put into office who really could relate to them and really cared about the same things they cared about. If there's something wrong with that, let me be wrong! Annie
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Ted, I have to tell you I absolutely HATE Kool-Aid! I never particularly cared for it as a kid. I'm a fresh-squeezed fruit juice kind of gal...lol! Annie
• United States
2 Dec 08
Hannah Montana is with Disney so you know she has already sold her soul for success lol. Think about it how can Mickey & Minnie look that good at what 80? Personally i think Obama is the anti christ. If you listen to Sylvia Browne for years she has describes the anti christ as someone that describes Obama in my opinion. I dont see change with Obama hell he wont even say the pledge of allegiance.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 Dec 08
The Anti Christ? ROFL!!! That's all that idea even deserves.
• United States
2 Dec 08
Lol Obama is the antichrist just like people have claimed every other president to be! I thought Hitler was the antichrist? Or wait was it Stalin? Or wait no it was Bill Clinton, no it was George Bush, well I guess it must be Barack Obama because the rapture hasn't happened yet. He's next in line. Just a tip, claiming that people are the antichrist only makes you seem ridiculous.
@zedzed (17)
1 Dec 08
they both are rich and american ;)
• United States
1 Dec 08
I totally agree. The media controls people to such a huge degree. Television has shaped and formed the minds of people in America for many many years. I can't stand television. It has steadily gotten worse and worse. Almost more commercial time than the actual programming was on the last time I attended watching tv. Great article. Thanks for sharing your insight. Peace, Rebecca
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 Dec 08
I don't consider it mind control because we all have a choice about whether we will buy into their lines or not. I don't excuse the mindless minions so easily.