SURPRISE! We're in a Recession...
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
December 1, 2008 5:28pm CST
...and have been for nearly a year now! The National Bureau of Economic Research said today the U.S. economy has been in recession since December of 2007.
http://biz.yahoo.com/cnnm/081201/120108_recession.html
The above article states that, "The NBER did not give any reasons or causes of the recession. But it is widely accepted that the housing downturn, which started in 2006, is a primary cause of the broader economic malaise."
This report only confirms what most of us have known for quite some time! It's already been a "longer downturn than most" and "one of the longest downturns since the Great Depression of the 1930's".
Any thoughts? Have you been personally affected by this recession?
Annie
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23 responses
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Surprise Surprise lol
I'm sure in a few years they will come out and say, Oh, we were in a depression we just came to the conclusion after we were out of it lol
I'm glad to see they are paid so much to be flakes!
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
2 Dec 08
I have 4 Bibles (yeah I know it's sad the one that probably has the smallest amount of faith there is a God/god lol) and my children have bows, real ones not little plastics ones...WHERE'S my bailout?? lol
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@cobrateacher (8432)
• United States
1 Dec 08
There was an announcement on the news just a couple of minutes ago, saying that we're in a recession. Who didn't know that, months or even a couple of years ago? A lot of commentators have said they think it's going to get a whole lot worse. I find that unimagineble! I'm already overdrawn and waiting for a paycheck to come Friday. What's next? I hate being so poor, but it is the way it is. I quit smoking and having luches out with friends o the weekends. I won't buy any more books -- library's directly across the street. No new anything!!!
This stinks!
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
1 Dec 08
It sure does stink! I really can't imagine how it could get a lot worse. I haven't yet quit smoking, I keep using the excuse that I'm under too much stress even though I know that's kind of a cop out, but soon I'll have no choice because there's not much else left to give up! I've been doing most of my shopping at Save-A-Lot, Aldi's and the dollar stores. By the lines there and the lack of them at the other stores, so are lots of other people around here.
Annie
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
2 Dec 08
The media was claiming all sorts of bad economic news even when the unemployment rate was the lowest for ages, and the housing was booming and everyone was spending like crazy. Since there's creative power in thoughts and words, I'm not a bit surprised it did finally come 'round. Then what with the global warming scare and using fields to grow fuel.. how could we not know? My question is how much worse can the talking heads manage to make it? Oh wait a minute the good guys will be more in control so likely the news will be rainbows and lollipops, all in all, things ought to perk up soon. [That is if darker forces/karma hasn't trumped creative power in thoughts and words. I say that because societies when they've become degenerate have a way of crashing.]
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@brandypelland (586)
• United States
2 Dec 08
i dont think things can get much wose for me? i already recive ssi,adc, and i already junk hunt and crazy things like that for extra money. god i hope things dont get worse! i will loose my freaking mind if they do!
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@ElusiveButterfly (45941)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Funny how they took so long to let the cat out of the bag. People are struggling to pay bills and buy food. Personally, we are getting ready to pare back our spending. But, where to start that is the question.
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
2 Dec 08
Wow they have finally admitted it. Everyone has known this for months but they hate using the R word, let alone the D word. I think we could well be in a depression as bad as the 1930's one but I hope not.
As for being affected by it well I am on a pension with a house I own outright and one old car owned outright. So as long as I can keep paying my rates and bills I am ok. Food has certainly gone up heaps though and that hurts. We try not to use the car much so we can keep our petrol costs down. Also I saw it coming and moved my super out of shares and into cash. It does not pay much above the inflation rate but I did not lose money. Had I not moved it I would have lost thousands.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
3 Dec 08
My mom, who sadly passed away last month at almost 92 years old, had been saying for quite some time that things really seemed to be like the Depression. Donald Trump said on some show recently that he thinks the signs are all there for a Depression. I've never before hoped so much for someone to be wrong but I'm quite worried.
Annie
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Lol, it's nice that they confirm now what we have been saying for several months. It wasn't even spring yet when people were saying we are in a recession. They are really fast with their analysis.. they just have to look at salary and wage development compared to price increases... my money isn't going that far anymore. Don't have to be a hot shot economist to figure that one out;)
Personally affected? Well, not as much probably as those who lost their homes and jobs, but yes, we had to make major cuts in expenditures and cut non-essentials. My husband's job is relatively secure. At least I don't have to worry for him to be out of a job tomorrow.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
2 Dec 08
I know, they have their special indicators of when we're in a recession but most of us don't need any economist or anyone from the government to tell us the economy sucks. All I have to do is drive down about three blocks from my house to see all the businesses that have closed in the past year or so to know things aren't going so well.
Annie
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@baileycows (3665)
• United States
1 Dec 08
I find it weird that we have been in a recession for a year and have only really worried about it the last month or so. Does that stike you as odd? I mean to that is just weird. But no my family has not been affected by it other than my father who is a real estate agent. He has been agent for over 20 years and makes 150+. This year has been so bad that he has only make about 25K. However he says that it is now starting to pick up again. He said that he has seen this cycle before. However he does believe that ultimately the US economy will fail as we believe what is prophesied in the Bible and now is a good time since other countries are failing also. I really hope that no one really has to feel the affects of this recession it is so sad that we have all these greedy people that can't be happy making a million dollars a year they keep wanting more and more and more. We make it by on 100K and live very nicely why cant all those corporate scum bags do the same. It is just insane.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
1 Dec 08
You're very fortunate that you've only been worried about it for a month or so! Most of the people I know in my area will argue it started before last December. Of course, there aren't many people in my area who make anywhere near 100K but I guess our cost of living is also lower than in many parts of the country. Local businesses and even chain stores and restaurants have been closing down one after another for several years here and so many people have lost their jobs and if they've been able to even find another one it's been for lots lower pay and often no benefits so the number of people without health insurance has skyrocketed.
They're just now talking about it on TV and said it could last well into 2009.
Annie
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Recession rumors have been floating since the beginning of the year. People have been worrying about it. It's not just a recent thing. It's just that we are all more and more aware of it and those who were in denial at the beginning of the year, well, I told you so;)
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
2 Dec 08
*bursts out laughing*
I saw them talking about this on Bloomberg and I thought it was hilarious then too.
And it...what only took the news anchors til Midsummer to ask "maybe we ARE in a recession?"...then Autumn-winter for the government and economists to catch up.
I wanna ask 'em if they just suck at their jobs or; "Dense, much?"
I don't know a single person who hasn't been affected by the economy as it's gone downward. A few friends of ours have experienced foreclosures due to tough times paying bills because of sudden medical expenses...the gas prices nearly flattened us here in rural Ohio.
The food prices added a second whammy to that for alot of us.
...because this is a buyer's market and no longer a seller's market fo houses, we got to flat out trade our old burnt out place for this one so we could get out from under rent in the city so that we wouldn't go into debt like nearly everyone else around here.
My family is extremely lucky, in this respect.
It's changed my entire plan for my future. College is outta the picture unless someone wants me at a career college and'll let me learn there for free -- which I doubt will happen. This whole thing has opened my eyes about cars and how we travel in this country in general and I've turned my back on cars entirely; I'm working toward getting a scooter.
As for houses, now I've decided that if I don't rent this one from my parents (like if they don't manage to do okay enough to buy a better patch of countrythan ths one)...then I'll work toward buying me a scrap of land and working on a mobile sort of living -- like a yurt.
My career that I'm working toward has changed. I'm moving toward farming now, since food is crisis proof.
It's rocked my world.
Of course it's affected me, lol.
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
2 Dec 08
For the record, I got my newsjunkie statis last summer...so I was on the scent of this story soon after that. There was murmurings that the economy could start going bad, particularly with gas prices. By December, the picture was looking clearer. And by time spring came, everyone with eyes knew.
So that it's taken them this long....
GOD.
Slooooooowwwww...
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
2 Dec 08
I think it'd be cool if you tried for both. Gardens by the pool are beautiful and maybe you could start a trend =)
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
2 Dec 08
I know we knew last year things were going downhill fast, at least in my area. I'm thinking of planting a garden in the spring or maybe trying to get a community garden organized in my town. I've had an idea about suggesting that by our local swimming pool because there's plenty of room there and it would be perfect.
Annie
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@lexus54 (3572)
• Singapore
2 Dec 08
I guess this revelation is nothing new to many people, nor will it rattle the stock markets anything more than the constant slew of bad company performance forecasts, poor performance results, collapse of big institutions and foreclosure problems. Technically, more and more countries are finding themselves in some form of recession, my country included. Almost as far back as a year ago, US citizens were already feeling the strain of recession in their daily lives, but usually when the economists and politicians make such announcements, they go by the economic indicators as the official gauge, and that is that countries are only in technical recession when they suffer at least two consecutive quarters of growth decline compared to the same period a year back. So by the time such news are officially confirmed and announced, it will be old news to those on the ground who have for months been suffering the effects of such a recession.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
2 Dec 08
That's a good point, they do tell us the bad news only when they want us to hear it and that works for some people. I recall how back in 2000 during the Presidential campaign the Bush camp was constantly talking about the "bad economy" and at that time the economy seemed to be doing fine from what I and everyone I knew could see. I cam to the conclusion they were trying to "talk us into" a recession because it would benefit them politically. Later on it was announced that we had been in a mild recession in 2000 but it really wasn't nearly as painful as the one we're in now.
Annie
@lexus54 (3572)
• Singapore
2 Dec 08
Actually I believe they know, but as politicians running the country, they will buy their time and they won't like telling their citizens that the country they are governing has headed into a recession. But when the indicators (of the 2 quarters) reveal so, they can no longer run away declaring this state of the economy. Politicians are not naive...they are actually very smart. What they choose to reveal is usually very measured and timed for the appropriate impact - maximum impact when it is good news, and minimum impact when it is bad!
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
2 Dec 08
This time next year they'll be telling us that we've been in a depression since December 2008!
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@LovesTravel (303)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Oh, yes, we are affected. My husband and I are in our second full year of retirement. One year ago, we had a comfortable, well-diversifed nest egg in the charge of a qualified financial adviser. Today, we are looking for jobs--in an economy with unemployment is rising. Thank you to the incumbent administration, which assured us until the very last moment that our economy was basically sound. Oy . . .
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@6precious102 (4043)
• United States
2 Dec 08
I'm in debt up the wazoo, but it has nothing to do with the economy. The fault is in my own improper use of credit cards. Isn't that what has caused this country's financial problems, improper use of credit? I still have a job, I'm still making as much money as before, but I'm trying to be more careful with my money. I think before the politicians start passing out all sorts of money to those that want, they should ask themselves, if the money was coming out of my pocket, would I support this project? It also wouldn't hurt for the politicians to talk with economist before being so free with other people's money.
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@anurag440044 (414)
• India
2 Dec 08
Its not recession just over there. In India here, its the same thing. Most recession is seen in IT feilds. There are more than lackhs of IT professionals fired from their jobs and every year, more of them are just adding to it by passing out.
@kuzzon1960 (118)
• United States
2 Dec 08
that's really funny. did anyone know this until we were actually told we were?
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@oldboy46 (2129)
• Australia
2 Dec 08
It seems to me that the rest of the world has been aware of the situation for a very long time now or certainly some months. I am not an American and nor do I live in the U.S. but I can read the newspapers and listen to the news, so have been aware of the situation for a long time.
In fact if these people, i.e. the politicians, their advisors and the bureaucrats were not the ones who make the decisions, releasing this information at this late date could be funny. Instead it is rather scary if we think about it.
At this time here in Australia we are not in recession but it could still happen all the same. We are lucky that our previous Liberal government amassed a substantial surplus which the current Labor government are busy spending or maybe better to say a lot of it is being given to pensioners. low income earners and families with dependant children. The hope is that when this money is given out in the next week or so that people will go out and spend it to stimulate the economy. Only time will tell of course whether this is the best strategy for the government to adopt.
Also interest rates are dropping considerably in recent months which should help many of those who have a mortgage to pay. AS in many other countries though is the risk that some comopanies might have to retrench employees or possibly go out of business. Our unemployment was very low until the end of 2007 when we got a change of government but it has risen a bit since then.
All we can really do is hoope that the situation doesn't worsen and in fact things start to improve in the near future. I think that thse who will be worst affected are the self-funded retirees who will now have seen a huge drop in their income.
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@Benjaminna (300)
• United States
5 Dec 08
My family hasn't really been affected by the recession. But then we have always been responsible, lived within our means and saved money.
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@Benjaminna (300)
• United States
6 Dec 08
I understand what your saying. Don't get me wrong though - we have deffently had our share of hardship over the past couple years. A few months after we bought our first house my husband was laid off, we had a flood in our basement which ruined everything, last winter my 4 year old fell and broke her arm which ended up costing us big bucks - even after insurance. We had to replace a water heater and ac/heater unit, van started smoking and ended up costing over $1,000 to fix and even the most recent, my 3 year old decided to see if he could flush a roll of toilet paper down the toilet - 2 days of plunging and nothing coming up we had to call a plumber and sad to say there was another couple hundred bucks. That's just to name a few...
@sdas86 (6076)
• Malaysia
2 Dec 08
We are in recession and I think it would not be easy for the economy to recover. I am not affected by recession but I know that a lot of people are losing their job.
Recession is a short term problem. I think it will recover when the finance industry recover.
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
3 Dec 08
This recession hasn't effected me, but my one financial stupidity has.
@Troublegum (641)
• United States
2 Dec 08
I think a lot of people didn't worry about the recession for a number of reason. #1 was that the major housing downturn was localized. If you didn't live in one of those areas that went crazy for a few years and then popped you didn't really notice the housing thing. If a person wasn't fired they didn't change their habbits because they had the same income stream, and if they moved and were stuck with two houses it is easy to see that as a bad situation for an individual rather than a wide spread problem. It was only really the gas spike followed by an huge hit on savings accounts that threw people for a loop and they started to cut back on spending significantly. That spending cutback puts us into the downward spiral we see now.














