How Do You Deal With Someone Who Continues To Lie?

@Opal26 (17679)
United States
December 3, 2008 7:20pm CST
I have a friend who I have not spoken to in a few weeks. I am tired of trying to deal with her constant lying. She has some medical issues, but she still knows the difference between the truth and lies but can't help herself. Telling her what she did will not help. She will deny it or make like she doesn't know what I'm taking about. What should I do? What would you do? I need some some advice!
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@relundad (2310)
• United States
4 Dec 08
I personally despise liars! The worst kind is those that tell what I call "verifiable lies". They tell you crap that they have to know that you know the truth, or can easily enough find out. Its like they open there mouth and out comes a lie. And of course every lie they tell, requires another one so that they can try and cover the first. It is so frustrating. When I am calling them on the lie and they try to deny it, I will usually respond with "well if its a lie, you told it".
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Hi relundad! That's exactly what happened. She started with a lie that was so absurd that she kept stumbling on to the next and that's when I flipped and hung up on her and haven't spoken to her since!
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@relundad (2310)
• United States
4 Dec 08
The really good liars, have to believe their own lies. So they are pretty good at it, and conviencing them is almost impossible! They really believe the BS.
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@relundad (2310)
• United States
4 Dec 08
BTW this information was told to me from a liar. I just asked him one day why he does it and holds to it, when everybody knows that he is lying. The above was his response...can you believe that?
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
4 Dec 08
All relationships, be it platonic, friendships, 1:2:1s are based on TRUST and trust means no lying, ok, small lies are told from time to time, but certainly not constantly, sounds like she has the condition OCD. You need to ask yourself some questions my dear friend, how long have you been friends with her, would you lose out if you didn't have her as a friend and do you owe her anything, would continuing your friendship be in YOUR best interest, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind and lay it out in plain English to her, if she wants your friendship it's based on trust and she continues to lie then that is not trust that is not a true friendship. Put the ball in her court, it's her decision, if she values your friendship she will deal with it, if she still lies then she has made it clear what you mean to her, sorry to be so blunt but with some people you do have to be BLUNT! Then you know where you stand!
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
4 Dec 08
hi opal, i have the same problem with my son,he always lie and look you straight in your face i love him but how much do i have to endure.she is your friend,but when it,s one of your family member it,s even harder.i tell you what i did i made him a appointment at mental health it,s something wrong with them when they do that.iam constantly repeating myself of things he not to do.he has a host of problem.most people say just let him go since he is grown but iam afraid he will be hurt out there amd i do love him a lot.so i pray and ask god to help me with him.he is a smart child but do crazy things.he going to have to stop and think what he is doing when he lie he has lost my trust as well.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Hi annjilena, I'm sorry that the problem is with your son. That makes it a different story. My father was a pathological liar so it makes it harder for me to accept anyone who is a liar. But, in your case hopefully your son will change, I hope so for your sake.
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@littleowl (7157)
4 Dec 08
Hi Opal..as far as I know there is nothing that you do with a consistent liar, I do know that they can get medical help but that is down to the person...my ex-husband was a continual liar and knew how to make you think what you were saying was a lie even though it was the truth..it is a terrible illness to have. Your friend must be very insecure...hugs littleowl
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@littleowl (7157)
4 Dec 08
Hi opal pathalogical was the word I was looking for and yes I truly understand your predicament and how you must feel..it is a shame your friend doesn't seem to want any help..hugs littleowl
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Hi littleowl! My father was a pathological liar and that's why I have such a problem with anyone that lies to me. It is a serious sickness. Since I lived with it most of my life I can't deal with it, not even little stupid lies. I'm sure that you understand.
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@guybrush (4658)
• Australia
4 Dec 08
This is a horrible problem for you - especially if you really do enjoy the company of this person and she's been a good friend until recently. Is the lying small, relatively unimportant things - or issues which are upsetting and troublemaking? I think I would be able to ignore small lies - like if she told me she'd gone to see a movie when I knew she hadn't - but if the lies were causing trouble in my life or defaming someone, I would have to sit her down and tell her I knew the things she said were not true, and if she wished to continue deceiving me, I'd have to stop seeing her because it was upsetting to me. Maybe that would jog her out of dishonesty! Good luck with your friend - I hope you can sort it out, because it would be sad to have to lose a friend.
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@guybrush (4658)
• Australia
4 Dec 08
It does sound as if you've come to the end of your tether, Opal. I agree - time to be tough and tell her what you really think. Enough's enough - life is stressful enough without other people's baggage - especially if we're not directly related to them! Time to move on - good luck!
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Hi guybrush~The lies are stupid, but they are continuous and I just can't deal with them anymore. She has alot of issues but I have given her allowances for them before. She just won't learn and nothing is going to change so I have to keep her at a distance. Right now she has no idea what she has done to make me angry and when I tell her she will get angry and be in denial. That will give me the out that I need.
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@leenie50 (3992)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Hey Sweetie, I've been missing you. I haven't been doing as much on mylot as usual. I was going to look you up. You say your friend has medical issues. When I hear that and your description, my first thought if Bipolar Disorder. If she has Bipolar disorder and not on her medications then she may be lying without remembering for real. My Son is Bipolar and that's why I ask. If she has physical problems and not mental then I can't imagine why she is lying. Tell me more.Hugssssssss leenie
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@leenie50 (3992)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Opal, Manic Depression is Bipolar Disorder. The problem with Manic Depression is that it often takes the persons whole life trying to find medications and combinations that work for them. But even if that is the case, you can choose not to be a part of it. Bipolar Disorder is a serious mental illness and takes a lot of patience and love to support someone with it. Even though my Son is on his medications, sometimes things trigger an episode and he completely loses his control. He gets very angry at me and blames me for everything that is wrong with him, even though when he comes out of the episode he apologises to me for treating me badly. He doesn't remember a lot of what he says, he just knows that he was in a bad place and usually takes it out on me. He tries not to answer the phone when I call so as not to have to deal with me, especially if he is in a real manic state. I'm just telling you this in case your neighbor exhibits this type of behavior. Like I said sweetie, even family members will turn their backs on one with Bipolar Disorder, so don't feel like you are obligated to take her abuse. You have enough to deal with. I'll email you soon. Love Leenie
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Hey leenie! Miss you too! No she's not Bipolar. Possibly manic, but I don't think she's Bipolar, although I could be wrong. She definitely is on alot of serious meds. But, that still isn't an excuse for lying. I don't think that is part of her sickness.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Find a new friend...or try to keep distancing yourself from her. You don't need that kind of problem.
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@bcl_me (582)
• Philippines
4 Dec 08
i will tell him that he is lying and aviod meeting, chatting, doing business with, etc...as if he does not exist at all.
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@quinnkl (1667)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Lies and Liars are a big pet peeve of mine. Liars always get caught. I know people who just keep lying even when caught at it and act like if they keep saying it you will eventually believe them! Arrggghhh. I would (and have done) call her on it. Say that you have caught her in so many lies you can't trust that she is ever telling you the truth anymore, so unless she is will to talk to you only when she is telling the truth, that she shouldn't bother. It will not go away. Some people have been lying all their lives and it is second nature to them. It just doesn't stop!
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
5 Dec 08
Hi quinnkl, That is the point! She doesn't even realize that she is doing it. But, I have given her enough chances to stop. I had stopped talking to her for over a year already. I gave her another chance and now she is doing it again. This time I've had enough!
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4 Dec 08
Hi opal, You will have to just keep away from her as she is doing your head in, people like that is no friend and how can you trust her if she is telling so much lies and live in a little world of her own? I would just ignore her and if she does come round and talk to you just be polite and when she starts saying things just agree with her, she will soon learn her lessons. Tamara
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
4 Dec 08
You are so right. She does live in a world of her own. And I think that's why people don't remain friends with her for long. If I try to explain it to her she won't understand anyway.
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@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
4 Dec 08
oh i like calling people on lies. i won;t tell them straight up i know they are lying too me, but mess with them. but i won;t never belive anything they ever tell me. and if it goes on so long i will have to cut ties off with them.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Oh, I have no problem telling someone that they are a liar! It's just that she won't accept it and own it!
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@maxilimian (3099)
• Indonesia
4 Dec 08
You must have the power to punish her so she won't lie to you anymore, you need to be emphatically with her, explain to her that her lies hurt you, so you won't do any compensation with that. It will teach her to respect you so she won't lie to you anymore
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Hey max~I'm not sure that she is capable of that type of understanding. When I tell her what she did she will just deny and lie some more. That is the problem which leaves me with no choice but to end the friendship.
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Hello Opal, I am sorry to hear that your friend (and next-door neighbor) has to drag you into her world of lies. As I can't really deal with people who constantly make up stuff, I would definitely make it known that I don't like to hang around people who do. If she approaches you herself, then just maybe give her a couple minutes of your time but don't make your way to her place. The less time you spend with her, the better. I know you want to support a friend out but sometimes tough love is what they need. And sometimes we just need to cut the strings too. Take care, Opal. How was your boyfriend's birthday?
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Hi anne~I am going to have to tell her sooner or later why I'm angry. She will deny it and get angry and defensive and I will just tell her I've had it with her. Nothing else I can say or do. His birthday was ok. I took him to pick out the sweatpants he wanted and he went downtown to Manhattan with his friend this past Saturday. I think he's finished celebrating it now!
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• United States
4 Dec 08
I can't tolerate lying, so I would find a new friend. If you can't trust this person, why hang out with them? Why talk to them when everything out of thier mouth is a lie and you won't believe it anyway?
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• United States
4 Dec 08
If you feel like there is any good having the friendship then just put up with it. Or everytime your friend lies just tell her it's time for her to go until she can figure out what it means to be truthful. If if is a medical issue it may be out of her control. Try to find out what the condition is and do a little research on the issue. You may find that it is something you can help her with. But if you really don't want to be friends with her anymore, you probably should tell her that. It wouldn't be fair for her to think you like her if really you don't and you would be condoning the lying issue by lying to her making her think you are her friend. Good luck!
@1corner (744)
• Canada
4 Dec 08
So, is she a pathological liar? Could her medical issues have something to do with it? Since you definitely know she constantly lies, you must know she can't be trusted with sensitive details. She wouldn't be a reliable source of information herself, so you shouldn't ask treat her as one. How close you'd like her to be to you is your choice to make. If you're up to it, you can be frank with her about your thoughts on the situation, though don't be brutal. (Yet then again, she'd probably just belie what you're saying) Hope that helps.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
4 Dec 08
i dont know. i hope someone here has some good ideas because im living with someone like that now. my to be daughter in law is an habitual liar and has every illness i get.
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@suzzy3 (8342)
4 Dec 08
I read the first answer and she lives next door, cut ties as much as possible and the other thing you can do is ,in one ear and out the other,there is a girl I know she is a bit like that.Just say yes and no in the right places and she will get the impression you are not taking any notice of her and beleave me she will give up as she is relying on your reaction to carry on with her lies because all the time people like that get attention they will carry on.Good luckxx
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@raven66 (335)
• Canada
4 Dec 08
Does not look like They care or want to help themselves... so I would let them be!!.. after telling them why.. and what you see is going on.
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• Philippines
4 Dec 08
If I am in your shoes, I would be mad. And the usual thing that I do when I'm disappointed, I ignore her as if I never saw her. I will create a gap between us. It's close to 'burning the bridge'.. Because if she still insists on her wrong doings, there's no point of talking to her especially about that matter. Or I get straight to the point. I tell her the problem.. that is if I think I could still handle her.
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