Can anyone offer me some advice?

@sharra1 (6340)
Australia
December 5, 2008 12:26am CST
My dog is acting like he is in pain but we can find nothing wrong with him. We rang the vet and she suggested that he could just have his nose out of joint. I am really puzzled about this. Symptoms are whimpering occasionally when left alone or just when lying down and he is clinging to both of us wanting to be patted all the time. He has only ever done that when sick before. But his eyes are clear, he has lots of energy, bounds around like a puppy when on a walk, healthy appetite and I have prodded his body everywhere with no reaction. I am really puzzled. If his nose is out of joint I just do not know how to get him back to normal. Any suggestions?
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@spoiled311 (5500)
• Philippines
5 Dec 08
hi sharra! well that is weird alright. but i dunno, i haven't noticed that with our dog. usually when our dog is depressed, hugging him and patting him for a while would do the trick. or our dog would want to sit on my lap. other than that, he would be okay. but i am not sure. maybe it is something internal for your dog? he is feeling some discomforts and of course, he doesn't know how to express it hence the problem and all the whimpering. can't he have an x-ray? hoping for the best for you. take care and God bless you!
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
5 Dec 08
I thought that would work as well but the more we hug him the more he does it. I have checked him over really carefully and can find no muscle or joint pain. He shows no sign of illness at all. I thought it might be something internal but he is as bright and active as a puppy when he has some stimulation. The trouble is that he wants 24/7 stimulation and we have other things to do.
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@TessWhite (3146)
• United States
5 Dec 08
Have you ever noticed how dumb some responses to a good topic are? I often read responses first so I don't repeat someone else. On this one I see at least two people who don't even bother answering your question at all, and one newbie who thought he could copy someone else's post for his own. Now, back on topic here... My german shepherd did this for awhile due to fear of a storm we had. My vet actually advised us to distract him when he did this. Sometimes a sound will trigger a dog's memory of what scared them. Mine was scared of thunder. Yours of the drum - maybe a noise locally or on TV reminds him of this. What I would do with my shepherd is to start playing with him with his ball when he got scared. It took his mind off it, and didn't "reinforce" the behavior by babying him. If your dog shows no signs of sickness this could be the problem. Its worth a try anyway. Good luck with your pet.
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
6 Dec 08
Interesting. I had not thought of that. We do have a lot of thunder at the moment, lots of storm activity and he may be nervous or anxious about it. I may well have managed to reinforce the behaviour as I was babying him at first. Oh dear I hope not. It is definitely looking more and more like a psychological problem and not a physical one. I know he has had abandonment fears in the past mainly because we went on holiday for a month once and left him with someone rather than a kennel. He never really forgave us for that. lol. At least it seemed that way.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
5 Dec 08
Although dogs obviously can't communicate with us in words, this is definitely a clear indication that something just isn't quite right. Is there any chance of getting his head x-rayed? I am actually quite surprised at the Vet's comments because telling you that his nose is out of joint doesn't really help any does it?? I have looked online for any possible explanations but can't seem to find any at all. I would definitely try to get an x-ray or a second opinion sharra as the poor little fellow is definitely trying to tell you something is wrong here and the Vet's advice over the phone just doesn't cut it.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
5 Dec 08
You are very right there actually and it DOES sound like human behaviour! Maybe you have yourself a "prima-donna dog" then sharra?
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
5 Dec 08
I have considered that possibility and he is also a really sook, its embarrassing actually. I hope when we finally get another puppy he will have someone to play with.
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
5 Dec 08
I know James. The vet has seen him a few months ago for similar behaviour and could find nothing wrong. We may have to go down the xray path but we were dreading it because of the cost. It just seems to me that if he was not well he would not be bounding around like a puppy when he is happy and sulking and whimpering when he is not the centre of attention. Hmmm that sounds like human behaviour
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• India
5 Dec 08
I am just as puzzled as you...I wonder what is wrong. But if the vet says it is not a cause of worry, I think you should not worry. Maybe he just wants to be petted. If you really want to be at peace, I think you must take the pooch to the vet for a thorough check. I hope your dog gets back to normal soon. Cheers and happy mylotting
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
7 Dec 08
He has had us worried before for nothing. We nearly lost him to an infection earlier this year and I tend to over react if he shows any sign of pain or illness. He does not seem to be in pain as we first thought and seems to be getting over it. He just wants too much attention and cries if we leave the room. Today he is a lot better and more like his old self so I am really puzzled what caused this.
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• India
5 Dec 08
I think dogs can not act because they are a really frind to humans change the VET and sure your problem will get solved
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
6 Dec 08
We have tried all 3 vet in our area and the one we see now is the best of them all.
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• United States
6 Dec 08
Depending on how old the dog is, he may be going back to a puppy stage. But if he is sick you say have you tried warming up a warm bowl of mile for him, make sure is is not to hot, and mix about .5 ml of tylenol with the warm milk, that is if you think he is sick.
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
6 Dec 08
Oh I do not think he is that old yet he will be 5 next month. I know these dogs can live to 8 or so, at least I hope he does. He seems very healthy just very clingy at the moment, does not like to be left alone at all.
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@EvrWonder (3571)
• Canada
18 Dec 08
Hello Sharra1; Here's my take on the odd behavior exhibited by your dog. Sounds to me like the dog wants attention. Be it generated excitement with a favorite toy, a walk or a run in the park or just some pampering. See, my dog does this on occasion. In fact, she just did it again today. It does appear to be an odd thing from her general behavior. Dogs require same time and same days.Feeding always at the same time. They get to know and look forward to when people come home from work or school. In order to have a well rounded and content dog they need exercise, discipline and affection, in that order. Daily. Two or three times a day or more if possible. With my dog, I try to take her out for a walk, and or a play in the park at the same times of the day. Afterward we come home and play, sort of. She is made to do her tricks which requires discipline (she is being trained, ongoing) Afterward, I make her sit and hold while I prepare her a meal. This is the affection. As well as when she is made to do her tricks and does well, I also give her affection by way of praise and pats. It is a good idea to make the dog stay and hold at least 30 minutes a day to keep them in the know of where they stand in the hierarchy of the pack. The past two weeks, it has been snowing, heavily with winds up to 80 km per hour. Way too cold for our walks and paly in the park so we are trying to make up for it with playing inside. making up new games and things to do so she can still run, jump and play, for exercise. It has become challenging. She has started this strange whine out of nowhere, as you have described above. I feel that she is reaching levels of anxiousness because she is getting bored. What I have done, when the time is right for me but within minutes of her exhibiting this behavior is that I get her favorite toy and ask her if she wants to play. She lights right up and is back to herself. After I play with her for a few minutes, getting her to fetch, with a few small tugs, I go about my business and she carries on to entertain herself. Either chewing her toys and playing with them, just laying down watching the goings ons or lays down for a nap. When I haven't wanted to play I call her up onto the bed (or sit and lay on the floor) and give her a good brush which she loves. At these moments, the brush is usually concluded with long strokes which calms her down and has her relax. Since she loves her belly rubbed, I will often just rub her belly until she falls asleep. My dog eats three times a day. She usually isn't fed without first exercise and some for of discipline first, followed by the sit and hold while I prepare her meal. Be it putting kibble in the dish and placing on the flor in the dogs feeding spot or cooking for the dog. I cook for my dog. I hope this helps. The point is that she has become so bored she is getting anxious which is something she hasn't felt much since we have been together. The snow has really thrown our routine out of wack and trying to make up for it and changing her routine I think is sometimes getting the best of her. It is time consuming but owning a dog is. I do believe that your dogs nose is out of joint but for simple reasons. He is bored. Another thing that I do for my dog, that she just loves, beside a good scratch is a nice massage. Dogs love this. Rubbing the bone in the front of their chest and around the tops of their front legs will often put them to sleep as well. You have mentioned that he is clinging to you, wanted to be patted all the time. Sometimes my dog suddenly starts following me all of the place. If I am in one room she will lay down and wait. As soon as I exit she is right there, following me. She will even do this sometimes when I go to the bathroom. She does want attention and If I want my dog to remain happy I must give it to her but on my own time. Since the weather is bad and she isn't outdoors exploring as much, I am trying to give her more attention inside so to keep her stimulated. Dog need something to do. Since I am training her, this time has come in handy for the both of us. The sog doesn't require attention 24x7 but just for a few minutes. I have found that this helps a lot. I have also noticed that she will follow me everywhere because either she wants to come with me when I go out or she wants to play. Otherwise she wants so treats. Which she must do something to receive. Dogs must always work for their food. It is not free. Even just a sit or come will do. Tricks are more fun for the both of you. I hope something here helps. I am curious how you know that he does this when left alone? As in home alone when you go out? If just alone, when you are entertaining guests or doing something of your own but still in the same environment, I would again guess the dog is bored. he is telling you man, I am bored. Help. Lets do something. Throw me a stick, give me a ball. Pet me. Rub my chest, brush my fur. Experiment and see what works. I have found even just a few minutes of playing fetch or doing a few tricks, really helps curb her anxiousness. I wish I knew how old your dog was. Sounds to me he is still quite young. Very nice looking dog by the way. Beautiful. My girl is 19 mnths. I find that sometimes just picking her up and walking to the window so she can see whats going on out there helps a lot too. Here ears go up and is clear that she is getting stimulated by what she is seeing. Give the dog some stimulation but on your time. Do not reward the dog by giving him attention when he whines, otherwise he will learn that if he whines he gets attention. Take note of the whine and don't leave your reaction for longer than a few minutes but do respond to the dogs needs by giving him some sort of stimulation. Be it a groom, a toss of a ball or get him to do some of his tricks, take him for a walk. Ask him to sit and give him a treat along with a nice pat on the neck. Just some suggestions that have worked for me from my own experiences. Good Luck.
@EvrWonder (3571)
• Canada
18 Dec 08
Nice! So he missed the tennis balls. Glad you were able to get some more.
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
20 Dec 08
I think he just missed getting enough exercise. I have had him on a diet for a while and I think that as he got fitter and healthier he needed more exercise and was not getting it. Throwing the tennis balls makes him run himself ragged without us having to exercise too much as we are both ill and cannot walk a lot. So maybe he was just bored and wanted more attention.
• Australia
18 Dec 08
He gets very regular and structured exercise and feeding, but thanks for the suggestions. He seems to have got over whatever it was, and is no longer clinging or whining. It probably helps that after he stopped this odd behaviour I managed to get some decent tennis balls for the first time fo ages (he chews through the cheap things in one session), and so he is getting his favourite ball-throwing game on a regular basis again. That wasn't the problem, by the way, it has been 6 months since I last had good tennis balls. Lash (for sharra1)
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
5 Dec 08
If things persist I would suggest you to visit your vet. He is the most professional person who can help you regarding this aspect. It is better to pay some vet fees than to be sorry afterward. I really hope that it is nothing serious. © ronaldinu 2008
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@underdogtoo (9579)
• Philippines
5 Dec 08
I don't have a pet and I know nothing about dogs. The reason I don't have pets is because I don't understand what they are saying and I would be at a loss as to how they're feeling. Good luck.
• Australia
5 Dec 08
I suppose that's probably worth a cent. Lash
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
7 Dec 08
Hmmm they don't talk but they do communicate emotions and they are loving and friendly and very protective. I could not imagine life without a dog. I have had a dog in my life since I was born.
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• Canada
5 Dec 08
He sounds like he just has anxiety about you leaving him alone. He doesn't want to be alone. Do both of you work? If so, then a companion would likely solve the problem. Then he wouldn't be so dependant on you for all of his affection and attention.
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
7 Dec 08
Yes it does seem a lot like anxiety at being left alone and we almost never leave him alone. He is nearly 5 now and we had the separation anxiety under control. I think something has upset him and he needs reassurance. I hope he gets over it soon.
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• Australia
6 Dec 08
We're here more or less 24/7. The only times he's ever alone is the one day a fortnight that we go shopping. We're beginning to believe it is a combination of boredom and the fact that he's a sook. Lash
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• India
5 Dec 08
just take an advice of a doctor,give a healthy food and make him to take bathe daily.take him to walk daily and take special care and it ill be alright no need to worry more go ahead.
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
7 Dec 08
He would not be easy to bathe. Too big and heavy to pick up so he would have to be tied up as he hates running water that is not in a creek or river. He goes nuts if we splash water on him and so bathing is way too hard.
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• Australia
6 Dec 08
Bathe a dog daily? Are you insane lol? He's never had a bath in his life, he goes swimming most days. As for the rest, we do it already. Lash
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