a doable and workable discipline for a child

Philippines
December 9, 2008 3:04pm CST
our children need to have some form of discipline so as not to grow up spoiled and undiscipline. hitting a child in the name of discipline is not wrong. it becomes wrong when it becomes a parent's way of venting his or her anger--then it is no longer discipline. i decided to start this discussion because of another that i have responded awhile ago. i have read somewhere (written by a couple) that they have an assigned "rod"--a light piece of wood that is symbolic of discipline. but in order for it not to be abused, it is placed in a top shelf, so that it is not easily taken out when hot with anger. these parents usually wait for themselves to cool down and then explain to the child what he did wrong and why he deserves to be punished. and i think they only have a limit for the number of hits on the behind. the child then understands his mistake and somewhat, it is the humiliation and the memory of getting punished that makes him behave--not the pain inflicted on him, because the hits are no longer painful because it is not done with the force of anger. i really like that story. and of course, i follow what the bible says, "spare the rod, spoil the child." i don't want a spoiled kid. i would want to raise a discipline God-fearing child. i think we can all learn from this. take care all and God bless you! :)
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@doulaworks (1079)
• United States
10 Dec 08
There are so many alternitives to disciplining children beside hitting / spanking them. I agree kids need boundies and discipline is key, But in our family, we prefer loving a gentle discpline approach, much as the teachings of Jesus followed. The word discipline comes from the latian word "disciplinare" word and means to teach.... I love teacing my kids and grandkids, self control, limits, boundries, (both by setting them for them and how to set them for themselves) Kids don't spoil who are well loved and have clear and consistant parenting. "spoiled" come from poor parenting, lack of guidence, not having rule or consequenses etc. The nice thing I learned a long time ago is that there is no single correct way for any of us to raise kids. I am glad you found what was right for you family. There is are many people who follow the teachings of The Bible and " Jesus" who pratice gentle loving gentle discipline that is doalbe and workable as you say. Many Blessings,
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
10 Dec 08
We primarily use timeout as discipline with a reminder afterwards as to what was done wrong and what they should have done not to get punished. The occasional little smack on the hand or butt can happen, depending on the situation. Sometimes we just need to quickly draw them to attention. I'm nice enough to count to ten for them to do something (although I'm fast, lol) or get punished. Time-outs give both sides time to calm down and think about the situation. If the offense is serious enough we also discuss after the time-out what should be done, if the misbehavior happens again. Then they get a longer time-out and lose a precious toy for a couple of days to a couple of weeks. I do not condemn spankings as long as it is done rarely and not so hard that the child sports bruises or worse. What I absolutely detest is parents who take 'spoil the child' too serious and bribe the child into behaving. That would be parents who promise a child a new toy or something so it will stop misbehavior or behave in the first place. It's been my observation that such children intentionally misbehave and misbehave more often in order to get a reward. I don't think children should be raised that way.
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@Ithink (9980)
• United States
10 Dec 08
I do agree with you, although before this I will try time out and talking to the child. I do beleive that spankings should be in the last in line for discipline. I do wonder at times if kids nowdays would be better if we stuck more to the old days of doing things. I see kids looking at their parents and telling them No and to F off. Kids running the streets at all times of the nights and early mornings. The way some act you would think the parents are the children as they let the kids do whatever they want. Anyways, like I said I think all types of discipline should be used if needed, however start with talking talking and work the way up.
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
10 Dec 08
One of the biggest problems in our world today is Violence. Hitting a child in the name of discipline is very wrong, because it is Violent, and you cannot teach Love with Violence! New-age parents use Psychology instead of Violence. The idea here is that Children are young Adults, and as such, deserve the same Respect and Honor, that is normally afforded to an Adult. Children are more intelligent than their parents suppose, they are not slow to learn, and its sad when they are not given a chance. My wife and I raised 4 God-Loving boys,(they were taught to love God, not to Fear Him) and we never had a moments regret. Anger, Humiliation, Punishment, Violence, and Fear, which are all negatives, were not a part of their upbringing. The positive approach we utilized consisted of Dialogue, (we shared our daily lives with the children.) They were rewarded for good behavior, We showed them respect, which included love and honor. We taught by example realizing that children learn from their parents. Children cannot be expected to have different standards than do their Parents.They learn very quickly by example. Our 4 boys were and are God-loving people, and we are very proud of them, and of our Grandchildren.
@cbreeze (1205)
• United States
9 Dec 08
corporal punishment used for disciplining children can be a very hot button topic. I personally agree with your description of how it should be administered. I think the parent should definitely meter it out based on the seriousness of the offense. I also think that spankings should not be used when anger is present. But I have used it and still use it on my children during a specified age range. There is a point when they are too young and there is a point when they are too old for it to be effective.
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@iwrite (5034)
• Singapore
10 Dec 08
Hello spoiled311, I have the same sentiments with you "spare the rod, spoil the child". Therefore I would exercise using the rod only in extreme cases. Which god forbid. Now about the parents you mention, they are able to exercise restrain, the people with that is some or most are not able to. Leave the rob at the top of the cupboard does not help. they could easily reach for it. That is the problem and soon become abuse. For what I believe is the child is a reflection of the people around them, and parents plays a major in their growing up stage. From a young age I believe that your should reason with the child and you would be surprise that a child as young as 6 months would understand what you are trying to tell them. It helps if you partner share the same view. To quote an example, I told my daughter when she was about slightly over 6 month that certain cupboard was dangerous for her to hold and walk as it has wheel behind and would move. (of course you have to use simple words that she hears everyday, like replace dangerous with pain or something your child would understand) Till today when she is 1 1/2 years old she can turn to me to tell me it is dangerous. Sometime we think a child is too young to understand, however during this formative years they are really learning very fast. It would be a good time to start on former education, rather then when they form a habit, it would be harder.
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• India
10 Dec 08
children is god gift your reposiblity is a careing and god to stories you child give to and mother & father disnipline learn take care all and god bless you
• United States
10 Dec 08
Shooting Star - I thought this immage would go well with this discussion.
My daughter is almost 3 and she's very well behaved. We do the "1-2-3 BUSTED!" discepline thing. Friends tell me that they've never seen a child move so quickly on "1" before!My trick was, as soon as she was old enough to understand what I wanted her to do, we started the "1-2-3 BUSTED!" where after 3, I would tell her what she did wrong and what the proper course of action was while spanking her on the diaper to punctuate each syllable. I only had to do it twice and she hasn't been spanked in about a year now. Quality over Quantity Happy MyLotting!