Iraqi journalist looking at two years for throwing shoes at Bush

United States
December 17, 2008 12:43pm CST
The Iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at Bush is looking at a possible two year sentence for "insulting a foreign leader". Needless to say this has sparked off a huge problem in their parliment. Anti-American members want his immidate release and the other side wants him to be charged and go to court for his crime. The parliment speaker is threatening to resign over this mess. What do you think? What should happen to this man for throwing his shoes at a president?
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@Guardian208 (1095)
• United States
17 Dec 08
He should be prosecuted as their law allows. Regardless of the politics behind the incident, if he broke the law he should be punished. I really shouldn't be that complicated.
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• United States
17 Dec 08
I know it should not be complicated. But they sure are making it complicated and political.
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• United States
27 Dec 08
Thanks for the BR!
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
17 Dec 08
I think a month or two in jail is more than enough. Or even a fine equal to a months wages would be fair. The reporter did it to be rude. A shoe is not a deadly item. It wasn't intended to harm him physically. It never endangered the president. Worse case scenario if he got hit would be a few stitches.
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• United States
17 Dec 08
They actually have a law in Iraq against "affending foreign leaders". he broke that law and he will face the punishment for it. Imagine what would have happened if someone would have thrown their shoes at the president of Iran when he was at that college speaking here in the US last year. they would have been in major trouble too. Assault, causing an international incident, etc....
@4ftfingers (1310)
17 Dec 08
I don't think much of Bush, I laughed when I saw the report but that said I agree with this punishment. It doesn't matter who it's aimed at, violent protests should not be tollerated. Non-violent protests are fine and should be encouraged in all democracies, but throwing things that could cause injury is stepping over the line.
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• United States
17 Dec 08
I agree. This guy stepped over the line and should face the punishment for it.
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
17 Dec 08
It's not like he shot at Bush (even though, at this point, that'd be understandable in many a person's eyes)...he just chucked his shoes at 'em. I realize this is a grave insult in Iraq, but in that respect, it's like prosecuting someone for saying something particularly foul to someone visiting from another country. I GET that rules are in place for a reason, horrible things could happen because of stuff like that in the Middle East I'm sure...but nothing bad's gonna happen because someone chucked shoes at our President...so in my mind, it's overkill. I know as Americans, we encourage free speech. Throwing shoes is both an insult and a form of protest...so naturally I think any of us would think prosecuting him for this is overkill.
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• United States
17 Dec 08
*laughs* But I've been wrong before. I agree with the Iraqi's -- simple this is not.
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• United States
17 Dec 08
I know this is not simple to them. I wonder. Do you know if anyone has tried any like this with a past president? Maybe not a shoe but thrown something at a president here in the US. If so I would be interested to know how much trouble they got into. I know this happened in Iraq so they get to deal with it, but I do not think this should be just a slap on the wrist thing. It sets a bad example for the rest, people will think it is ok to throw things at the president or any foreign leader. So I imagine they will not go lightly on him.
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• Italy
18 Dec 08
If i got a chance to do soo i will do it again nd again even you could give me a 10 yrs lockup. Mr. Bush really deserves this. I just want to ask a simple question "Where are the weapons of mass destruction" and if such thing does not exist you have to apologize from Iraqi Nation and get out immediately from Iraq. Even after 8 yrs he is unable to catch the Usama Bin Laden or MUllah Umer from Afganihtan. They have the worlds latest technology and weapons and manpower. WHY WHY WHY? can you answer this? Only because he staged all this drama for his own interests. I feel soo sorry for all Americans that they have a devil on their head.
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• United States
18 Dec 08
Well Bin Ludan is in Pakistan and Pakistan will not let us go in to get him. Nor will they go after him. So there is the problem with catching Bin luden. As for why we have not left Iraq.....well the Iraqi government has asked us to stay this long. With Iran sending people and weapoins over the border and the civil war over control going on the government of Iraq requested we stay. Now I am sure the people of Iraq want us gone. But Bush said we would leave when Iraq was able to take care of themselves and when htey asked us to leave. The Iraq government is just now asking us to look at withdrawing in the next couple of years. But they also said they would like to be able to chance that date if things start getting bad again. Bush said he got bad intelligence about WMD. He admitted it. Personally I think we should have left them with Suddam. The do not see to appreciate their liberation and also do not know what to do with it. I do not believe Bush staged this whole thing. But I do think he made a mistake by going into Iraq.
• Ecuador
18 Dec 08
1) You mean, the leaders the US put in place in Iraq are asking the US to stay so long... imagine that. ;) 2)Oh no. Is that the latest story - that Usama is in Pakistan. My question is, what does Pakistan have that the US wants to take? ;) Thank goodness for Obama - he'll keep a steady head and hand in the future. Maybe the US can live at peace with the rest of the world now. All hail the new improved US President!! :) Btw, there was a poll taken in Canada during the US elections and over 90% of Canadians supported Obama over McCain. Most of us spent the last 8 years hiding under our beds at night, for fear GB would see something in Canada worth invading for. Of course, since our leaders gave him everything he ever wanted, as well as half our big companies are now owned by American's - it wouldn't really be worth the effort. Btw, if America was ever thinking of making Canada the 53 State, Obama has the best chance in history to do so. (Like a 2% chance instead of none.) ;)
• Philippines
18 Dec 08
The act should not be considered a criminal one, but rather a political and symbolic one. As a political expression, the act is protected even by the American Constitution. The shoe-throwing incident can be construed as a basic freedom (of speech and of expression) protected by the Bill of Rights.
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• United States
18 Dec 08
Well Iraq does not have the Bill of Rights. And Bush was in Iraq when he got the shoes thrown at him. And the bill of rights does not allow you to throw things at the president. If someone here did it htey would in big trouble and going to jail also. YOu do not have the right to try to phyically harm anyone, especially the president of the country.
• Ecuador
18 Dec 08
LOL, bantilesroger. I did catch the irony in your statement. ;)
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
19 Dec 08
I've heard he could be imprisoned for between 2 and 7 years. I guess since it WAS only a shoe and didn't contain any explosives 7 years is a bit extreme. It should be according to their law and decided by an Iraqi jury, if that's what they have there. I also heard he's asked the Iraqi Prime Minister for a pardon and begged for forgiveness and said he did a terrible thing. If he were an American he'd now be a famous celebrity and would probably be a millionaire soon. Annie
• United States
19 Dec 08
Yep here he would go on all talk shows, get a book deal and do a tour making millions. Of course after getting out of jail. If someone here threw a shoe at Bush they would get into major trouble. But it looks like in Iraq he is fast becoming a celebrity too. But that does not mean he will get off easy. That being said I do not think he should do 7 years. It was only two shoes and no physical harm was done. I hear he is only being charged with "offending a foreign leader". I am glad we do not have a law like that one here in America. HEck you can offend a foriegn leader by saying something to them they do not like or having demonstrations while they are visiting, much less throwing your shoes at him. I did not realize Iraq had that law until this happened.
• United States
18 Dec 08
They shouldn't give this guy jail time, they should thank him for doing what the majority of the country has wanted to do for five years. I think that they should give him a trail, with a jury of his peers, and see what happens. This could be a great opportunity to show the middle east how a democracy works.
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• United States
21 Dec 08
I think that Bush is doing the right thing, I just hope that the Iraqis handle this like we would here. This could be a great example to the area of how a real democracy works, and could help with the spread of democracy. We all know that they want to throw the book at this guy, this case may determine the future of Iraq.
• United States
18 Dec 08
Well sense it happened in Iraq and the man is an Iraqi citizen the Iraq courts are handling this not the US. So it is all up to Iraq on how they want to handle it. Bush said he is staying out of it.
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• United States
19 Dec 08
I have to admit that I laughed - and I think Bush is right to make light of the whole incident. As much as I appreciate the man's position and his attempt at "political speech", I also think that it's up to the Iraqui laws what happens to the guy. I can't help wondering, though - we've often had demonstrators protesting when there are foreign leaders making official visits, but... what would be the penalty if a U.S. citizen threw a shoe at a visiting head of state from another country here in the US? What do you get for assaulting a head of state on foreign soil?
• United States
19 Dec 08
well for causing a international incident and public embarressment I imagine they would get into more trouble than just "simple assault".
• Bahrain
19 Dec 08
Whether it was wrong or not, he had all the right to. Bush is the main reason why Iraq is in all that mess, along with other countries, it's about time someone gave him a spank
• United States
19 Dec 08
He broke the law when he did it. It is not a matter of right or wrong. It is a matter of legal vs illegal. Now if he would have just been yelling at him I would have said the guy had a right to say what he wanted. But you can not just throw things at someone because you are mad at them and not exspect to get into trouble for it.
• United States
19 Dec 08
Here we have had a few families of victims attack criminals in court. You know what happens.....they get into legal trouble and go to jail. They broke the law. They attacked someone. The same with this guy. He did the crime so he will do the time. You ever heard of the saying two wrongs do not make a right.
• Bahrain
19 Dec 08
I doubt he didn't know he'll get in legal punishment for it. And let me ask you just one thing, if the murderer of your family, friends, relatives, or even the closest it could be; your own children and your wife/etc, and even the destroyer of ur whole country was sitting right in front of you, without being punished for anything he've done, would you even think twice about trying to hurt him? Would you compose yourself saying 'this is illegal and I won't do it'?? If I were him, I would've brought him hell on earth, getting a mere globalized insult is a really petty punishment for a serial killer like that ******
@murderistic (2278)
• United States
18 Dec 08
I thought that the journalist was Egyptian?
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• United States
19 Dec 08
I agree. I do not blame him for being upset, but I do blame him for reacting the way he did. It is not ok to throw things at anyone.
• United States
18 Dec 08
Okay nevermind, he was Iraqi, but with an Egyptian news network. Anyway. I think that he deserves some jail time for this. He threw a solid object at someone, who just happened to be a foreign leader. I think that if I were to throw a shoe at... I don't know, the PM of England, I would expect some jailtime. That was a physically threatening gesture. He could have gotten equally as much attention if the would have done something that was non-violent, but he chose the wrong way to express his anger. I don't tolerate acts of violence, whether it be a shoe, a bomb, or a missile.
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@ankur_sen (193)
• India
18 Dec 08
Look my friend I am not an anti-American.But i am anti Bush.So i think he did a great job.Its the voice of all Iraqi against Bush to destroy their country for no cause.He should be free as soon as possible.
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• United States
18 Dec 08
But he committed a crime. he is not above the law. he should pay for his crime. Wether we like the president or not.
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• Ecuador
18 Dec 08
I have to agree in essence will lil here, although the devil on my shoulder was laughing with glee. I'd say "couldn't have happened to a better person" but that would be wrong. ;) I can secretly think it though. You know - what you think is AWESOME, and what you know is absolutely wrong, can sometimes be the same thing. :)
• Ecuador
18 Dec 08
I would say they should look at what the penalty would be if Person A threw a shoe at (but didn't hit) Person B. He should receive that penalty. That would remove the politics from the situation. As much as I hate Bush, I don't think people should throw shoes at each other. However, I don't think the journalist should be unduly punished because the target was Bush. I mean, I can see why Iraqi's may have some unresolved hostility towards the man who invaded their country for questionable reasons. They should give the journalist the regular punishment and nothing more or less.
• United States
19 Dec 08
I agree. He threw two shoes at someone. Here in this country it is considered assualt. The problem is in Iraq there is a law against "offending foreign leaders". And he broke that one. So he will have to pay the price for his actions.