God created man or man created God?
By Khayam
@Khayam (346)
Romania
January 3, 2009 10:20pm CST
Although this is a very old question, I think it still has the potential to offer alot of comprehensive insights on religion.
All Abrahamic religions (Islam, Judaism, Christianty) but also all polytheist, animist, pantheist, etc beliefs consider that an eternal being (or beings) created the universe and all there is (including man).
The Divinity is characterized by holiness (separate from sin and incorruptible), justice (fair, right, and true in all his judgments), sovereignty (unthwartable in his will), omnipotence (all-powerful), omniscience (all-knowing), omni-benevolence (all-loving), omnipresence (present everywhere at the same time), immortality (eternal and everlasting) and transcendentality (outside space and outside time, and therefore eternal and unable to be changed by earthly forces or anything else within his creation).
Atheists, on another hand, will mention that, during early days of human civilization, man felt very insecure and helpless in front of natural calamities and gradually understood its own limitation. This is when man conceived the existence of supernatural power, which he thought are behind all those forces. He also started believing that such supernatural forces strike when they are not happy, so man tried to keep them happy. Rituals were developed and each group of people tried to conceive the supernatural powers according to their own experience.
So what is your oppinion: God created man or man created God?
1 response
@Frederick42 (2024)
• Canada
4 Jan 09
God as portryaed by religion was created by man. But the true God is not created by man.
All reliigons are false. beyond this entire universe, is the true God. But this God is also present everywhere. God can be found through meditation. Once we relaize the truth about God, then we come to know that we ourselves are nothing but God.
@santuccie (3384)
• United States
4 Jan 09
I agreed wholeheartedly with every word you said here until I got to the last sentence. The "superior reasoning power" (as Einstein describes it) that engineered biology and DNA information had a firm grasp of what they were doing. Knowledge comes with experience; personally, I don't remember how I built this body. Do you?
@Frederick42 (2024)
• Canada
5 Jan 09
Thousansds of things become possible through meditation.
Yes, knowledge comes thourgh experience and I have experienced several things through meditation.
I remember very well how my body came into being. But problem is, it cannot be explained in words. If you wish to experience it, you will have to meditate. The deeper and deeper you go into meditation, you will realise more and more truths and one day, the ultimate truth: that you are God.
Everything in this universe is nothing but God.
@santuccie (3384)
• United States
7 Jan 09
"I remember very well how my body came into being. But problem is, it cannot be explained in words."
I suggest you make an attempt to explain it in words; otherwise this is a poor argument, and hardly qualifies even as circumstantial evidence. I am stating a personal opinion when I say I think you are lying for the sake of your argument. And if you are lying, best you believe I will catch you as soon as you slip up. Don't try it on me; I read your posts a lot more thoroughly than you seem to be doing with mine, as I have indicated in another comment below.
"If you wish to experience it, you will have to meditate. The deeper and deeper you go into meditation, you will realise more and more truths and one day, the ultimate truth: that you are God."
I have spent plenty of my time meditating, which is how I have converted from atheism to religion, and then back out of religion to plain monotheism. In your vast knowledge obtained through meditation, perhaps you can explain to me how I seem to be able to control a friend and four complete strangers who are 3,000 miles away, without ever knowing it?
"Everything in this universe is nothing but God."
I think this statement of yours is only partially correct. Unless you and I are constantly thinking the same thing at the same time, then we are two separate spirits. And I know we aren't thinking the same thing at the same time, because your views differ from mine. Certainly everything in this universe comes from God, including all spirits. But all spirits seem to be independent of each other, as we are free to make our own decisions, while unable to sit and communicate telepathically. If you and I could read each other's minds, then I would be more inclined to buy the notion that our spirits are both extended from the same singularity. As it were, I think the Creator gave us spirits of our own.
