A look at revelations

January 4, 2009 7:42pm CST
I was thinking about doing some discussions on revelations, There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about this one book. I am a bit hesitant to discuss this because last time I tried to discuss the bible my star went from an 8 to a 1. But I will make a few comments and see if any would like to discuss this book further. Revelations is a book of prophecy, it deals with past things, present (at the time of Johns writings) and future times, which might be sooner than some believe. The name revelations means to reveal, to bring to life, not a book that is hidden and shrouded in mystery. So why do people so miss understand this book? Because the real symbolism has been hidden from you by the church, The symbols tell you the times, seasons durations and more, lets just take one thing now to see if any really want to know more. The woman in Revelation 12:1-2 1: And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars 2: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. We have been told this is merely a metaphor of Israel, but is there more to this wonder in heaven? There are three heavens, the first is our sky, the second is our universe, space and the cosmos. The third is the thrown of heaven. So which heaven is being mentioned here? It is the second heaven. Observe the answer to the woman. The woman is the constellation virgo, she is clothed in the sun. When virgo is "clothed in the sun she is unseen because the stars of the constellation can not be seen, The moon is also present, which can only mean it is the new moon, because the only time the sun and moon can be together is the time of the new moon. A new moon always marks the beginning of a new month on the Jewish calendar. Because the sun is in Virgo, the month must be Tishri/ Marcheshvan, which is our September/October. When the full moon is at the head of Virgo, without the sun, it is Nisan and Passover. Therefore, John is being very specific with his descriptions of the signs. The Lord has given us a sign that indicates that Israel's trouble (pain of labor) is about to begin somewhere around the month of some future September/October when the sun and moon are in the constellation Virgo. The precise location of the solar eclipse is at Virgo's feet in the ecliptic path of the sun and moon in the "Tail of the Dragon." So, does any one want to know more? Please Don't neg me, just tell me no.
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5 Jan 09
Now I understand the tail of the Dragon thing... Hmmm? Can I see where this is going? In one discussion that Dr. James Dobson aired on his radio broadcast the show Focus on the Family he had a guest who went all through the metaphors and symbols in the book of Revelations. According to that mans interpretation the woman was the Church... She will give birth to the child and then she will have to hide in the woods. I better brush up because I'm going off of memory... I know one of the other teachings is that the Church will be lifted up to heaven, but in essence if the Church is removed from Earth we have the same effect. The details will come up later I'm sure...
5 Jan 09
Yes, and some believe this event is a past event. Remember what I said about the constellations? The sun is ever moving through them, and changing, the woman changes also. But the twelve stars shows us two things, The twelve signs of the zodiac and the twelve tribes of Israel. Remember the dream of Joseph. He dreamed of 12 stars the moon and the sun, Okay, The church in revelations is personified by the "bride", Then their is the other woman.... The dragon here is Draco, It is so large it's tail loops though seven other sings of the zodiac, these are the seven heads, the seven crowns meaning the ruling constellations of the zodiac. They also represent something here on earth. You see most people when I explain this think I am saying it is all about astrology, it isn't, but knowing where the symbolism comes from helps us know "What age or season" we are in. Now this can be something that already happened of course, where John is told to write of things that were, are and will be. This could be the birth of Christ, Virgo playing a duel role of the "Virgin" and Israel, I said before they play multiple roles. The woman having to hide is the nation of Israel being catered to the four corners of the earth until the time of the end, So mow we must decipher Who or what is the Red dragon. Shall we continue down the rabbits hole?
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5 Jan 09
I would love to continue, of course you know I find the fact that Love is the whole key to what will happen. And the gift is also Love as Love is also the gift, given of freewill and so on...
• United States
5 Jan 09
First I have to get some rest, we will continue tomorrow evening... Thanks, this has been great tonight...