Do you believe that children do not lie?

@Jenaisle (14078)
Philippines
January 13, 2009 11:31pm CST
We have a common belief that children do not tell lies. I do believe in this adage. I rarely hear a child lie, during those rare times, the child lied innocently for some reasons, like he forgot, etc. The upbringing of the child is also a consideration. If the upbringing is not proper, then the child will believe that it is not bad to lie. What about you? what are your experiences about lying in children.
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• Malaysia
14 Jan 09
NO! I don't believe that. Maybe yes for the children in the 1990s or 80s but not the children now. They are just too smart! My friend's younger sister is one of them. We tried to fool around with her when she was only 4 years old. We told her that her soft toy has disappeared and was kidnapped by an alien, and she told us "Don't lie to me. You're hiding the soft toy behind you" I was like oh my gosh, she's not funny at all! And few minutes later, the same little girl came to my friends and I and told us that her brother (our friend) was looking for us outside. We went out and my friend was clueless what happened. She lied.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
14 Jan 09
And these are 4-yr olds. That's sad. Thanks for your vital comment. Cheers.
@avidwhit (1492)
• Mexico
14 Jan 09
Personally I dont think its human nature to lie. I think its an ugly acustum we learn as we grow up. I heard the Aztecs never lied and didnt teach to lie. I also heard in the LOas language they have no word for anger, implying they dont learn this feeling and have no word to describe it. Great post makes a person think.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
14 Jan 09
That's an enlightening information regarding the discussion. Thanks a lot for sharing this. Aztecs are good people. do we still have them now? Happy mylotting.
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@avidwhit (1492)
• Mexico
25 Jan 09
We have only their history. The aztec empire fell 100s of years ago. I do think that maybe the chatholic church has some interesting records of then after all they where mainlyy to blaim for there extinction. Oh well dont want to dwell on the past. There is the aztec sun callender in a museum in Mexico city. happy lotting your lot and have a great weekend!
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
25 Jan 09
Thanks for the info. I've seen a picture book about aztecs and their tattoos are unique. happy mylotting.
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@nilzerous1 (2434)
• India
14 Jan 09
I hope my response won't be marked '-ve' but it is quite common for any children to tell a lie. It does not relate much to upbringing as most parents do not teach their kids how to deliver false statements confidently. But this is something they acquire by birth as their natural self defense mechanism.
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• India
15 Jan 09
I think I never meant to say that this is genetically acquired! If it means so, I'm sorry. As such I can neither put blame on upbringing! Children, these days, are very stressed. They find a route to escape. This compels them to manufacture fact. I understand, it may be related to upbringing. But this has become a standard these days. We cannot change the social structure overnight. So children will continue to manufacture these realities and the society will continue to burden them. The situation is very critical, and innocent kids have no alternative but to use their creativity as a self-defense mechanism.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
You've got a point, In their creativity, they maybe unaware that they're lying already. Where should the line be drawn? It is indeed a fast-paced world and children are stressed out and yes, toxic, so in order to cope they, lie. Where would one draw the line between a lie that saves and a lie that is detrimental, They're both lies if we think honestly about them. What do you think Nilz. Thanks for your active participation. God bless.
@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
I don't give negative ratings . The effort to respond is worth the positive rating. Do I understand that you're telling me, this i inherent , that lying is acquired thru genes? This I have to disagree Nilz, because lying is a behavior and behavior is something acquired in a span of time. Thanks for the vital comment. Cheers.
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
14 Jan 09
As long as they are kids and do not start understanding the difference between truth and lies, kids speak innocently, whatever comes in their minds. It is we parents, who spoil the minds of kids by telling them how to tell a lie. If we tell the that truth always prevails (exceptions are always there) then they will behave accordingly. It largerly depends upon the upbrininging of the child. My experiences says if I tell a lie to other in front of my kid and he comes to know that I was speaking a plain lie, he will do the same some day. I need to discipline myself, before I expect my child to speak truth and only truth. Good Post!
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@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
14 Jan 09
Thanks for your kind words about my response. Yes, we should teach our children through setting an example. Nice to know that you feel that I speak with wisdom. Yes, I have two children, your guess is right.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
14 Jan 09
wow, very well said dpk, I absolutely agree with you. Teach by example is a very good practice. Thanks for an enlightening comment. Experience is the best teacher. I guess you have children as you speak with wisdom. Cheers and happy mylotting.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
14 Jan 09
Wow, so I at least gave a correct guess. Cheers.
@klaudine (3650)
• Indonesia
14 Jan 09
I don't believe that. Or.. exactly, I don't know whether they were lying or not. I couldn't say that exactly because I think it was all about parenting. My parents never lied to me before and they told me not to lie. That's why I never lied as a kid. But in some other family where the children taught with the lies, they learned from the nature that they should lie to get to what they wanted. So it might would bring me to the conclusion that... yes, some children are lying about something. They were taught by the environment, or the wrong parenting style about how to react in certain situation. I have never seen a kid lying to me about something big, actually. Maybe they're just too exagerrating something so it sounded like a lie, but.. yeah, maybe it was not.
@klaudine (3650)
• Indonesia
15 Jan 09
you're welcome, jenaisle. I know you cared so much about parenting so I just tried to help a little even though I am not yet a parent. Have a nice day and happy myLotting.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
You've got lots of wisdom in you Klaud., Kudos to you. You'll be a good parent. Happy mylotting.
@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
I can see the logic in your analogy Klaud. They see it around them and imitate. Thanks and cheers.
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@zorlone (411)
• Philippines
31 Jan 09
I think that lying is not natural for kids... but sometimes they do. Unlike the extreme lies adults do, maybe these lies are in the form of white lies or make belief... I'm sure you have a lot of experience when a child says, I went to the park with grandpa when in fact the kid lives in a condo and the grandpa is in the province. This i would think is make belief... adventurous thinking which is healthy. Another one is when they don't exactly tell the truth... "it was yaya who ate the chocolates" but their nails still have the smudges of chocolates and the wrappers are inside their pockets. So lying, YES.
@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
31 Jan 09
Lol, those were very specific answers, thanks for the valuable contribution zorlone. Cheers and happy mylotting.
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
15 Jan 09
I disagree with you. Children do lie and they start at a very young age if they think they have done something wrong and will get into trouble. They will often blame things that they have done on someone else. They have to be taught to tell the truth.
@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
Okay, so you think it is natural? I'm curious about that. Thanks for that vital comment. Cheers.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
26 Jan 09
You've never had a child tell you they didn't get in the cookie jar with their shirt covered in crumbs? Or hear, "NO" when you ask them if they need to go "potty" while they're doing the "PP Dance"? I'll give you, most lies told by little kids aren't that big a deal. They are usually when they know they are in trouble. Of course, I've also heard huge lies from kids when I rode ambulance. From the small "no that doesn't hurt" when the rest of their body is telling you it does to the protective "no, daddy didn't hit me" or the horrifying, "daddy hit me" when all the physical evidence says otherwise.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
26 Jan 09
That must be quite an experience, they lie to protect themselves , that's a good angle, it is complicated to explain when you say that their deed is tolerable ... it must have been difficult to witness all these. Thanks for that enlightening comment. Cheers.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
15 Jan 09
I know for a fact that younger ones don't - like under 3 or 4 - they haven't learned how to do that yet! My GD's tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth - therefore we all watch what we say around them cause they will repeat it and at the very inconvenint place! I think after that, they learn how - whether from parents or friends... they learn what they are taught!
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
This is a very logical comment. I agree. Thanks and happy mylotting.
• United States
15 Jan 09
i know better cause my kids lie all the time and it is something i am trying to break them from, but with kids it is hard to break that.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
yes, especially if they observe his everywhere.
• China
15 Jan 09
i have the same believe with you ,in the old days i always trust the children .but recently happened one things to me,but i still believe the children now. i feel the chikdren is so cute ,now i am a student come from china .nice to meet you .what are you doing now.i am like the children so much ,but i have a nephew,and i like he so much . i wish you have a happy day.recently i fell so worry . i fell i have a lot of thing to do can you ,can you give me some good advice .thank you for you .i wish you everything is ok.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
I wish you too the same and welcome to mylot.cheers.
@jakill (835)
26 Jan 09
Very young children don't know how to lie, but I think they soon learn. Their motives are usually either self-protective or just plain mischievous. Initially, they will not be very good at it. The mischievous lies will be accompanied by a broad grin that indicates they are playing games with you. When telling lies to try to stay out of trouble, they will often look shifty and refuse to meet your eyes, and you can usually tell they are lying. How you deal with it can influence the extent to which they lie in the future. Sadly, if they continue, they will learn just how to fool you.
@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
26 Jan 09
I totally agree with you Jean. your points are well taken. I hope my grandkids won't learn how easy it is to lie..lol...and their conscience might not be there to warn them. lol,,,
• China
15 Jan 09
Hi,i have no child yet.But i am agree with what you have said.Also,The instructing in words and by deeds of parents compares for child it is important.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
Yes, parents serve as role model. Thanks and cheers.
@zdsyx88 (14)
• China
15 Jan 09
Make the child know that he'll be punished if he lies, and if he doesn't, he may be excused.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
Thanks for the input. cheers.
@rsa101 (37933)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
I think it really depends on their age. I think from age 1 to maybe about 5 or 6 this are the ages were they really have no idea what lying is but as they grow up and realizes that there is this option to lie then they start to use that option. Although with constant reminder that lying is bad I guess it could be prevented later in life but I do not think that they will be honest all their lives as there are times that we are tempted to lie about something.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
I see your point and I have to agree, age has something to do with conscious lying. I will have to consider this, Thanks for that significant input and cheers.
@legend4u (1019)
• India
15 Jan 09
i think some times kids too lie but their ies are easily understandable and if we are little cunning then it can be found out. i am a horrible lire, when ever i lies without even looking at me my mother would find it. she knows me bit too much lol!
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
lol, yes, mothers usually know their children best. thanks for that funny input. cheers.
• United States
14 Jan 09
It all depends on the age and development of the child. Some children are more precocious than others. They can say something that isn't even close to the truth but it doesn't mean that it's a lie. It just means that they're wrong. For it to be a lie there has to be an intent for whatever reason to deceive. That's a skill that they learn just like any other. I'd be very careful about accusing a young child of lying when they say something that obviously isn't true. Find out why they're saying it and you'll find out if they've lied or are mistaken, or just being immaginative etc.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
I find one unique contribution of your comment , about not accusing immediately that the child is lying. Come to think of it, you're right, it maybe a part of their imagination process. Thanks for that vital comment and Cheers.
• France
14 Jan 09
I suppose it depends somewhat on the age of the child. My boys are pretty bright so they figured out that sometimes parents lie to get what they want, as in "You better be good or Santa Claus won't bring you a present" for 9 years and then "OK, we lied. There is no Santa Claus." And we also tell our kids to lie sometimes, as in, "When you're at a dinner party, always compliment the cook even if you didn't like the food. It's good manners." So sometimes lying is good manners. It's confusing. My 11 y.o. boy doesn't lie except to be polite, and even then he can still sometimes be a bit embarassingly honest, but my 9 year old does lie sometimes. Fortunately we know it. He's observed that when some other kids lie they often get what they want.. and what he wants. Or they avoid blame for something. I want my boys to understand that life is full of these types of people and gray areas. They need to understand how to deal with them without sacrificing their own values. Teaching a child when to fib a little to be polite or to protect someone's privacy and when a fib becomes a lie is not simple. We had a long talk about lying just the other day so I think he's got the idea lying as a way of socializing or to manipulate behavior or an outcome can have seriously negative consequences (the boy who cried wolf effect). It's not always as black-and-white a lesson as it may at first seem. Thanks for the topic!
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
Wow, that was a very thorough comment. Indeed you're right, these gray areas should be made clear to the child. "Being polite sometimes involves lies," this is sad don;t you think so? you can't tell your host directly that his party sucks. There is also one thing that is different in your comment, your mentioning the "boy who cried wolf". this story should be narrated over and over to kids, so they'll learn that outright lying is disastrous. If we do this, the term congenital liar may be deleted..lol...Thanks for that very significant contribution. cheers.
• United States
14 Jan 09
Children lie all the time, and learn the consequences so hopefully they will not do it in the future. I think it takes quite a while for a child to full understand how lies hurt people... I think children at first think they are telling a story or playing a game. Its how the parents react and how they discipline the child that will make a difference.
@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
I think you have some point there, it's through us that they learn,. thanks for that good input. cheers.
• United States
14 Jan 09
i dont believe that one. my little brother lies so much you cannever believe a word he says. its like the only thing that comes out of his mouth is lies. so icant go with that.
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@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
I see, I'm wondering how old he is? thanks for the comment.