Remember little Adolph Hitler and the birthday cake fiasco?

@jerzgirl (8168)
Gloucester City, New Jersey
January 14, 2009 9:34am CST
Well, he and his sisters, all named after Nazis or White Supremacist groups, have been removed from the home by the NJ Division of Youth and Family Services. The local police chief knew of the removal (DYFS apparently has to notify them), but said his office had never had any complaints about the family or care for the children, so he has no idea what reasons were used for their removal. Their scheduled hearing for yesterday at an undisclosed location was postponed and not yet rescheduled. http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Adolf-Hitler-Sisters-Taken-from-Parents-Home.html As much as I hate what these parents are doing to their kids and how much damage this will eventually cause because of societal reactions, I can only think how hard it is on those kids to be taken away. A part of me hopes the state has good reason for the removal because I do believe the kids would be better off elsewhere. But, another part of me things that if this removal is related to the names of the children and the beliefs they are being taught, then the state might be walking on thin ice. As much as I despise bigotry and all it stands for and the fact that these so-called supremacists raise their children to hate, I don't know that it constitutes legal child abuse and neglect. We can't regulate thought. So, what do you think? Since we don't know what's behind the children's removal, dare we speculate on why? Should they be removed because of their names? Or are you, like me, hoping there are other legally legitimate reasons they used to get those kids out of that environment?
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• United States
15 Jan 09
this sounds like grounds for a mighty big lawsuit. as much as i think they perhaps might have had a better choice of names,if there's no proof of abuse,they really haven't the right to remove the children. if a bad choice of names constitutes abuse,then i'm surprised they didn't have more celebs like frank zappa up for that. this kid's never gonna hear the end of that name now that the media's involved.
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@Opal26 (17689)
• United States
15 Jan 09
Hey jerz! I read the article and as much as I don't like what the parents are doing to these children there would have to be more of a reason for them to be taken out of the home at least for it to be legal. They couldn't just be taken out because of the names or that would have happened alot sooner. Something else must be going on here. Family Services can't just go in a take 3 children without good cause and legal justification or the parents can sue the state. So whatever the reason is it would have to be something legitimate other than the names and the teachings because none of that can be proven.
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@rsa101 (22655)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
Yeah I think they are indeed threading a thin line because as far as I know you can chose what to believe in your life for as long as they won't harm the society per se. I am just sad that they chose an infamous person to name themselves. And the choice they made in life is so much that they have to live their lives to be like that. What is more alarming is they are rearing children to be like them and soon it may create some kind of a start of another trend in it that is why maybe the state has decided to intervene to stop and at least change the way the child's thinking or belief system the parents might have put in their minds.
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@albert2412 (1782)
• United States
15 Jan 09
I think that the people from the Division of Youth and Family Services should go to jail for kidnapping. While i may not agree with the children of the parnets, it is the prviledge of the parents to choose the names of their children. The government has no right to tell us what to name our children or what to believe.
@Ronina (185)
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
i feel bad for the little kiddo, because of the name givin' to them they are being discriminated. What's the big deal if the kid's name is Adolph Hitler? The kid didn't harm anyone. I feel sorry for the kid.
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@ulalume (714)
• United States
15 Jan 09
Unless those parents are doing something illegal (note: the freedom of speech protects this family under law to be white supremicists, if thats what they are. Groups like the Ku Klux Klan are still allowed to gather, so long as they maintain a peaceful stance while doing so). Whether we agree with it or not, children should not be taken away from families that think like this (no more than a child in a Christian household should be taken away because of things like the Crusades). If the government siezed these children just because of their names, shame on the government. That is absolute bull. The name Adolf Hitler is not offensive. It only becomes offensive when people begin associating this child with the Nazi leader. Shame on the parents for being stupid and naming their child that, but stupidity is not a reason under law to take children away from what appears to be an otherwise peaceful home.
@irisheyes (4372)
• United States
14 Jan 09
I certainly hope there is another reason. If there is not, every civil liberties outfit in the country is going to go ofter that NJ division. I really can't imagine a New jersey agency being dumb enough to act without cause on something like this.
• United States
14 Jan 09
lol? Removed because of there names? That is stupid and all but some people don't like taking risks.
@Debs_place (10524)
• United States
14 Jan 09
I would think that naming children those names could constitute mental abuse --- if not current then future. I guess only time and the news will let us in the reason.
@tammytwo (4302)
• United States
14 Jan 09
The parents are ridiculous for naming them such names. But if there is no other reason than that to remove them from the home they should not be removed. I'm sure the state has evidence for more reason than just their names to take them from their parents. If not the kids will surely be placed back in their home at some point. But it is sad what effects it may have on them later in life.
• United States
14 Jan 09
It's hard to say, but Nazi believers generally preach violence and hatred, which is not the type of thing one should be teaching their children. I think there is enough violence in the country for children to be tought to hate and hurt other children by their parents. I consider myself to be a very liberal person, but I would consider that abuse and think there is justification for removing the children. The parents may not be hurting their kids in a physical sense, but they may be mentally harming them.
@iriscot (1290)
• United States
14 Jan 09
There may be reasons that haven't been revealed as yet to why they were taken away. Maybe the parents will have to undergo syco examinations before they are allowed to return to their homes. It sounds like the parents are "sycos" and need evaluation. There are a bunch of crazys out there, maybe this will nip something in the bud. We don't know what other conditions these kids were living in.
@cynthiann (18613)
• Jamaica
14 Jan 09
Oh, my goodness - this one had passed me. I diodn't know of it and I do try to keep up with major USA news. I feel revulsion and wonder what damage this would be doing to the children. Yet, another part of me thinks that children are better off with their parents if their parents do not abuse them in any way. The problem is whether this bigotry or indoctrination cionstitues abuse? I do not know your laws on this. A very difficult decision to be made and you are so right - we cannot regulate thought. I'm going to read the whole story now. Blessings and hoping that you are doing o.k.
@4mymak (1795)
• Malaysia
14 Jan 09
being a parent, i feel sorry for the parents for having their children taken away from them... i dont think they should be removed just because of their names.. that could have easily been taken care if the parents were willing to change their names to something 'more acceptable / more appropriate' by the society.. i just hope if the children are taken away 'for a valid reason' - they will not be brainwashed to not care about their parents, or to think badly of them.. no matter what, the children must be reminded that their parents love them (in whatever wierd way of theirs).. and that they (the children) need to love their parents as well...
@jessi0887 (2794)
• United States
14 Jan 09
Its hard to say how i feel. I just hope they have more reason to remove them. Not just for the names because thats not legit enough. I hope they go to a descent family and that the new family considers name changing. I am not all for name changing but in this case i think they deserve better.