Do kids grow up to fast?

angry children - Angry children
@fwidman (11514)
United States
January 19, 2009 11:52pm CST
I know that, as parents, we look back at our grown up children and wonder why the time seems to have passed so quickly, but that's not what I wonder right now. In the past couple of hours I have heard several disturbing calls on the police scanner, both involving children. The first was a young girl that took off from home after an argument with her parents. She is all of TENyears old. What the heck? A ten year old runs away after an argument with parents? Okay Now they are on their way to a different house where a TWELVE year old has gotten out of hand. The sad part? He has a past history of violence against the parent. In my day, police would not have been called as it was generally the parents who were violent in reprimanding their children (ask anyone that has ever been spanked by a leather belt). Now it's the other way around? Kids want to beat up the parents?? Where have we gone wrong here?
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• United States
20 Jan 09
Noone whoops their children anymore. Blame it on whoever you want but most people do not whoop their children at all. Alot of parents now days do not even punish their children in any way. I asked someone from DHS(Department of Human Services)(welfare department) in Mississippi about this because I wanted to know the law. And I was told that there is no law in the state of Mississippi that says that you cannot whoop your children but the law does say that you cannot leave marks. I think that that is fair enough. Nowdays kids are different though and yes they grow up way to fast. They think that they can run the show. As parents we need to put our foot down.
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• United States
20 Jan 09
I am with you on that one I do not feel that any child should be whooped bad enough for them to be in physical danger but I do not feel as if you should let your children run you either. That is a big issue today. Instead of the parents running the children the chidren are running the parents. Back in the 30's if children would have done the things that children do now days they would not have been able to sit down. I have also seen alot of children in public that should have been grabbed up and bent over and had a good spanking. I bet if their parents did it a couple of times they would quit. I always tell mine that even though we are in public we can still go to the bathroom and get a spanking. It is embarassing when you are on your way to the bathroom with them and they are screaming "But I don't want a whooping Momma." Once they reach a certain age though I think that parents have a fear of spanking them. So they know they will get by with what they want. I got my butt whooped a lot and I believe that I am perfectly fine. I lived to tell about it. And now I understand why I got them. I told my Daddy one day when my kids were acting up that there was no way I acted as bad as my children and he said that I was 2x's worse that they were great!! LOL I honestly think that when you become a parent it makes you respaect your parents more because you see what they went through and actually realize the love that they had for you. There is no way to understand how much they truly love you until you have kids. To me the love I have for my children is so much deeper than I think I ever thought. Anyways I will quite rambling.
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Now you know why so many of our parents said strange things like "Your turn will come" I was a lot worse than any of my kids were and I always knew it. Good thing they didn't or they'd have acted up more
@fwidman (11514)
• United States
20 Jan 09
I would not condone whupping to the point where the child is truly in physical danger, but a good spanking now and then comes in very handy It didn't kill any of us parents and it won't kill the kids we raise now God knows I've seen way too many out in public that should be grabbed and turned over and left with the feeling that they do not want to sit down because their butt is too sore
@camomom (7535)
• United States
20 Jan 09
The problem now is all these fanatics that insist that spanking is child abuse. I got the belt when I was a kid and I'm ok. I also spank my kids if neccessary. I don't spank for everything that they do wrong but I do spank. If my child hurts someone else or are in danger, I will spank them. For example, If my kid hits another kid or pushes them down or hurts them in any other physical way. If my child runs out into the road and is indangering themself or has been warned to not touch a hot pan on the stove and I see them reach for it. I have spanked my stepson twice and my oldest daughter onky a handful of times. Th problem is that people are afraid to discipline their own kids because they might end uo getting a fine or put in jail or worse yet, they may get their kids taken away. I see nothing wrong with spanking in the right situation as long as it's with a bare hand in their clothed butt. Or maybe even a small swat on the hand.
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
20 Jan 09
When I had stepsons I set the rules down early for misbehaving. Their father was a hit first kind of guy. I told them I will ask them why they did what they did. If it makes some sort of sense and they learned why they did something wrong then that's that. If I didn't like the explanation then they were going to get smacked. It worked really, really well Isn't the whole idea of punishment supposed to be so that they learn from their mistakes?
@camomom (7535)
• United States
20 Jan 09
I agree, the reason for punishment is to learn from the mistake. It's not meant to be mean or for them to fear you.
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@Grandmaof2 (7579)
• Canada
20 Jan 09
Yes you made an excellent post here. Where have we gone wrong? Well I still think a lot of it is we just have too much in today's society. In some cases the parents are a lot to blame but this doesn't stand true in all cases.
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
20 Jan 09
I cannot see where the blame is totally on the parents although I do think parents share the burden of most of it. We do allow kids too much, too soon I am thankful that my daughter is not a violent type of kid. I would truly hate to whup her butt just to show her who is in charge. Fortunately a stern word or two usually does the trick. She sulks instead of arguing
• Canada
20 Jan 09
Yes my daughter was very much the same way. We never had a lot in terms of material things therefore she had to learn responsibility and that you need to work for what you have and in our case that helped a lot.
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@ShellyB (5241)
• United States
20 Jan 09
I think they are just more mouthy and more imature than before. And I believe it is a combination of a lot of things, how they view the world and that they think they are entitled to anything they think they should have and of course what the law says as far as punishment goes has an impact on the home.. I think a lot of kids would be more mature if they knew what a foster home is, what juvenile hall is and what a homeless shelter is like, they will think twice before taking off from home, before being violent. I actually believe their generation will be more strict than their parents because they will not want to make the same mistakes as their parents. I hope I am making sense.
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
20 Jan 09
Yes, you are making perfect sense. I agree with what you say, they would be better if they knew what these awful things were. And, I'm sure they will be stricter with their kids as well. My only hope is that they do not show their children the violent nature they are currently showing their parents.
@ShellyB (5241)
• United States
20 Jan 09
I hope not, I do not have respect for people who lay hands on their parents no matter what their age is, I however hope that the future is better than today and that they learn that violence does not produce anything good. And for u
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@scorpio19 (1363)
5 Feb 09
Hi fwidman, I very often ask myself that question "where am I going wrong?" but I don't think it can be all put back onto the parent/s a lot of other factors come into play. We don't live in the era "Children should be seen and not heard" children are encouraged now to express themselves, explore their own points of views and opinions with in schools. Years ago children were more protected from everyday troubles not so nowadays, they are taught to tackle bullying etc I mean years ago it was shameful to even tell your own mother that you were now having a period which is just unheard of today and would be really frowned upon if a daughter could not discuss this openly with her own mother. So changing attitudes have a lot to do with it I feel. Also we has parents are constantly been told how to parent by our government, so therefore our children are aware of this and it's used against a parent and yet when a child is of an age when they could cause a nuisance in society for example, by hanging around the streets, the parent is blamed and yet we have our rights to parent by our own discretion taken away, so were in a catch 22 very often.
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
6 Feb 09
True enough, we are told too much about how to parent our children. It really is a shame, I have often felt like giving the kids to the government and say "Here, you raise them, or at least fork over the money so I can raise them"
• United States
5 Feb 09
OMG, i cant believe that. Thats terrible. I would could never even think of saying something bad to my mom or dad. And I especially I would never hurt my childern or make them run away. Kids now are so influnced by tv and movies, and not just that. Kids are influnceing other kids in a bad way now. It wasn't like that when i was in school. and i was in school not even 6 years ago. So I dont know what will happen with this generation of kids. I only hope and pray that my childern trun out to be good people. I will do my best to teach them rigth from wrong, and kindness twords others.
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
6 Feb 09
I hope that most of today's kids get better at Life when they finally grow up
@izathewzia (5134)
• Philippines
21 Jan 09
That is one of my fears- for my children to grow fast! LOL But they are actually. And I can't help but enjoy each moment with them. They are still babies to me. I still hud and kiss them. And I like it when they do the same to me.
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
21 Jan 09
There are days when you think they are growing up too fast and then there are days when you wish they were already grown up and moved out of the house Enjoy the good days, let the bad days disappear into the wind
• United States
20 Jan 09
Because children have no respect for their parents and parents want to be best friends with their kids because they can't stand their spouses. Its a sad thing when my kids have to deal with such idiocy. We've become of nation of coddlers and enablers, these are the kids that therapists love because they know they will never fix the kid and will have life long patients.
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
20 Jan 09
I have no doubt that therapists are some of the happiest people around, look at the job security they have I am thankful that my daughter does still have a little bit of sense, she knows when she has gone too far and knows that something she will not like is coming her way
20 Jan 09
Hi fwidman, It's the law that has got it all wrong as parents cannot spank kids anymore as its class as child abuse and kids got all the rights now and they know it. Whe I was a kid I was even scared of m mother when she used to look at me sternley, we respected our parents and do as they tell us to do, no back chat. Ma\ybe the parents are too young these days and dont know how to handle their kids and they kids just take advantage of them. When I was ten I was still playing with my dolls, now days they are thinking of boyfriends and girlfriends. I don't know what to say anymore. Tamara
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
20 Jan 09
I'm afraid I would risk the arrest, if I thought the kid needed a spanking they would get it. I'll take my chances with the judge Many parents these days just seem to be too afraid of the system or their kids or both Kids today do seem to be thinking that they are already grown up when they are not even close.
@Chevee (5905)
• United States
20 Jan 09
I have wondered about this too from time to time. I live in the south and my grand parents would go out in the yard and get some switches (you know what those are?) They are little small limbs that come off a tree or bush. And all they did was show it to us and we knew what the deal was then. Today children tell the parents what to do and will threaten to call 911 on the parents. And for running away from home no that was a NO NO if you did run you would get your butt beat all the way back home. Children have no fear of grown ups these days. I see children now misbehaving in public or walking down the streets of my neighborhood and I say nothing to them because I know if I did I would have to deal with the parents later.
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
20 Jan 09
I hear you! The only thing I ever say to kids in my neighborhood is hello as I pass them. I do not want to deal with their parents either, as they may take their frustration with the kid out on me.
@hildas (3031)
21 Jan 09
The whole worlds upside down. There is no strict laws and I think the whole system needs looking at. I shouted at my daughter the other day and she said she was phoning social services. I was shocked and really give her a piece of my mind. She said sorry when I told her I was going to speak to her teacher, to ask her was she learning this nonsence at School. I want a scanner! I am buying one on Ebay when I get extra cash. It is sad though that Children have become this way. Stricter disapline never hurt me. Infact it done me good sometimes.
@fwidman (11514)
• United States
21 Jan 09
I think discipline did us all more good than harm
@murugezh (273)
• India
21 Jan 09
Hi fwidman first of all I would like to congratulate because you have choosen the nice topic to discuss. This is the fight everyday I am doing with my wife for slapping my son even for small mistakes. Sometime my son get anger hit her again for an revenge. I told her many time "Control him with lovable words or some way different pleasant movements but don't hurt him in this small age he'll record a bad impression on you". She now stopped bugging him. But still he was very close with her, I am admit to say as a parent don't hurt and mis conduct in way to cultivate your child with mental illness, carefully love them and bring them up with your love that will bring them a good mind and peacefull life for ever, it my kind request.
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
21 Jan 09
I am all for love and kindness, but there are limits and there reaches a point when smacking them is the final option. I, like my mother, used that option. It did not damage me mentally nor has it damaged any of the children I have raised
@CRIVAS (1815)
• Canada
20 Jan 09
I do not think that all of the blame lies with the children but there is certainly a small part. If a parent does not properly discipline their child, it teaches the child that they can do whatever they want. Another problem can occur when a child does something harmful to a parent and they get away without punishment. If my child ever showed a violent temper towards me, they would be under house arrest, or I would send them away for a short period of time so that they were made aware that this type of behavior would not be tolerated. I think it all boils down to the child and the people that they are around. Believe it or not, a child's friends can have a big impact on how they behave. If they are around people that are rude and incosiderate of their parents, your child might begin to behave in the same manner. I think that there are a lot of diffent reasons for children to behave this way and unfortunately there is not always a lot that the parents can do short of involving the police.
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
21 Jan 09
I only had to call in the police once for any of my kids and that was when he was grown up and I wanted his butt out of the house and he refused to leave and did threaten his mother and I. The cops came and gave him five minutes to get his stuff and get out or they'd take him to jail. He left willingly then He later apologized for being such an idiot
• India
21 Jan 09
new generation teens are very hard to understand and live in thier own world where they do'nt want any single person to interrupt.may that be their parents or gardians.this is a difficlt situation but i think i can be sorted out.just a talk will do i guess.i dont think theres a need of spanking of you can workout with your child.try to give them child and i dont think and kid will need to leave the house for a single argument.i didnt like the idea of kids beating up parents.i havent encountered this thing,but it surely id a last thing to do.so kids doing these things would be in such situation that they cant sort out anything other than being such a demon.now there should be parents protection programmes too along with child abuse protection????????
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
21 Jan 09
I guess you may be right, there needs to be a parent abuse hotline like there is for kids. Personally, I would just teach them that violence begets violence and defend myself
@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
20 Jan 09
yeah we get to blame the justice department, because they are the ones who said we can't spank our kids no more. but there is a loop hole in it, if they give us a reason we can in fact spank them without leaving marks. but my thing is, if my kids was still young and want to jump in my face or my wife's, raise thier hands to us oh yeah they knew it was on, and they wouldn't have to call the cops i would take them there myself and sign them over. today the law and whoever think we need to talk to our kids, give them time out. yeah right dont work with all kids.
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@fwidman (11514)
• United States
20 Jan 09
Time out is a waste of time for most kids and parents too. A quick turn over a parents knee is so much better and if you smack them well there will be no marks