Those of you that want the Detainees at Gitmo Released...

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
January 23, 2009 5:20pm CST
Are you willing to have them come live in your home? Your nieghborhood? If not, why not?
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@murderistic (2278)
• United States
24 Jan 09
Live in my home? Um, no. But in a high security prison in the area that I live in? Sure, why not. These guys are PEOPLE, not super heros. They don't have some kind of super human power. They are as capable of escaping as any other prisoner - which is very unlikely, especially in a high security prison. But you act as if these men are verified terrorists. They are not. Many of them haven't even been charged with anything, let along proven guilty!
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
But if or when these people are released, they have to live somewhere. For most of them, their nation of origin has already stated they won't let them go back. Jack "America's Only Ex Marine" Murtha have said that they would welcome them in his district, and I'm sure there are more statements to that effect to come. So, I'm not talking about them being moved to a prison near you, I'm talking about them moving next door.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
None of the other people have sworn to kill you, your family, your friends and your way of life.
• United States
24 Jan 09
We already have child molesters and plenty of other terrible people that have been released from prison living in all communities across America. There is nothing you can really do about it. I don't believe it's right to imprison someone based on discrimination and heresay. The fact is that the US put itself in the s***hole by using torture and water-boarding, because those techniques have compromised the cases of these people in Gitmo. There's no way of knowing if what they said was true or not, and no one wants the torture revealed in court, so yeah. Prime example why the US cannot use torture or cruel interrogation methods under any circumstance! If they did not torture and use cruel interrogation methods we wouldn't have the problem of men not being able to be tried or charged.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
24 Jan 09
I'm not that far from Leavenworth Federal Prison and Lansing Prison. There are also a number of half-way houses in this area. I suppose you could say we already have a good number already here in one aspect or the other.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
I'm not talking about having them in a local prison, or any other supervised or monitored circumstance. Jack "America's only Ex Marine" Murtha has stated that if released, he would welcome them living in his district. Would you welcome them living next door?
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
24 Jan 09
I suspect we do have a number of released prisoners in this area. Not that I've personally met any.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
So you don't consider terrorists any different than a criminal?
@lilaclady (28206)
• Australia
23 Jan 09
I can't believe they just going to release these people, I don't believe they are there for no reason, as far as I am concerned association with terrorists is enough, terrorism is a war, a very different war than any others, what are they going to do wait for another twin towers to happen before they start clamping down on anyone that has association with these people...I don't believe those people are completely innocent, there must be a reason they have been put there in the first place...no they wouldn't be welcome in my house...my house is a place of peace...
@us2owls (1681)
• United States
26 Jan 09
Well I think for the fact that we are even having this discussion we can all say, "Thank you Mr. President."
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
24 Jan 09
I want the detainees to stay at Gitmo, and be convicted of their treasonous acts, and if they did kill anyone, to be executed. I do not want them anywhere near where I live, I do not want them to be released, sent back to Iraq, Iran, Arabia, the Middle East, and then have them get on a plane, and land in the Montreal Airport because they have relatives here in Canada, and then move to Winnipeg and form a terrorist cell, blow up the railways, etc. Since Canada is more for multiculturalism then the States, we would be in greater danger.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
Many have already been released and gone back to their terrorist ways.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
It doesnt' have to be ala Chuck Norris, there have been terrorist attacks carried out by detainees that were released.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
24 Jan 09
That is what I read on Alains Newsletter and the other conservative web sites. Obama is going to be terribly surprised when the terrorists he had released decide to attack America ala Invasion USA. and there will not be a Chuck Norris to save the day. And I suppose he will blame that on the Bush administration that arrested them previously.
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
29 Jan 09
Sure. They're probbly in an awful mental state right now, and that'd be really exciting. Heck, us crazy people gotta stick together, no? *grin* No seriously, they gotta go somewhere. Australia and Germany I think offered to take them in, so this argument's sortof moot...I'D think, anyway. Besides, if they somehow get here and commit a crime -- that's what our prisons are for, right? I'm sure it'd all be terribly complicated, but that wouldn't change a whole lot. Or, it shouldn't, anyway... *sighs and pokes people* There's ALWAYS risk in doing the right thing. Sheesh. Why do people act like we've ben safe for decades when there's no such thing as EVER really being safe in life? It's an illusion, people. Of course, I'll admit, different actins increase and decrease the likelihood of things happening, but since we don't all have brains with the type of power of crunching this particular math...I think we gotta go with compassion and ethics on this one, and deal with the consequences later.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Jan 09
So you would welcome them moving into your neighborhood?
• United States
29 Jan 09
As long as either people like me or better than me were keeping an eye on them and were working to rehabilitate them, sure. But it has been argued that there's insanity in my family...and that I probably don't have the sense to be scared as much as I should. *shrugs* My "neighborhood" is TECHNICALLY out in the middle of nowhere (extremely rural) too, it should be noted.
24 Jan 09
Yes. Why not? These guys haven't been convicted of anything. Gitmo was possibly Bush's greatest mistake. Internment without trial is always a bad idea when fighting terrorism. If the US government had serious reason to believe these people were guilty, they should have been dealt with within the criminal law - gather evidence and let the Twelve Angry Men decide their guilt or innocence. That's how you fight terrorism.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
No, his mistake was not just classifying them as POWs, then it would be illegal to try them for anything, and none of them would have to be released until after the war. So basically, if he had of classified them as POWs, most of what the lefties are demanding would be war crimes.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 Feb 09
There has never been a requirement to try prisoners taken during wartime. They have always been put in POW camps. In other words, the left is simply setting a standard that is impossible for the US to uphold for their own pathetic little political agenda.
@missybal (4489)
• United States
24 Jan 09
Well it is very likely that that will happen. And as soon as they are released wheather it is in this country or any other I'm sure we will see our next attack on American soil... But don't worry... Obama will make sure that it's seen as all Bush's fault. Each day is a nightmare so far with Obama in office. I pray god gives him the wisdom necessary to lead, before it's too late.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
True, I'm sure Joe Biden will be proven to be right and there will be another major attack... I'm not sure if Obama will blame Bush, but I know the Obamabots will.
• United States
24 Jan 09
Missy ou have to want wisdom, all O'bama wants is idolation, and dictatorship and it looks like he is getting it so far, I am waiting for the wonder years to end, and the other shoe to drop. Blessings Marilyn
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
24 Jan 09
Has anyone said they're going to simply be set free? If so, I haven't heard it. Annie
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
Actually, Prs. Obama, for all his talk through the campaign, has no idea what to do with them. He knows he wants to make good on his promise to close Gitmo and release them, but now that he's forced to do so, he has passed the buck to the military to figure out what to do with them. I thought he had it all planned out? I guess not.
• United States
29 Jan 09
-Australia and Germany have offered to take them in-
@us2owls (1681)
• United States
26 Jan 09
I think maybe I should copy a discussion I put on MyLot called. "When in Rome...." and mail it to our President. Do you think he would pay any attention? After his action with regard to those at Gitmo I seriously doubt it."
• United States
24 Jan 09
I don' want them released as you know already, LOL, but I do have a suggestion. I think President O'Bama should set them up with suites at he White House and have dinner parties for them with all the Democrats in the House and Senate invited, but attendance is mandatory. Then the terrorist should pick out what kind of puppy his daughters should get. I think it would be a wonderful day at the O'Bama's new residence, and would also show just how much he believes in his own terrorist policies. Hey sounds like the perfect solution to me. Blessings Marilyn
@sid556 (30953)
• United States
24 Jan 09
He is not freeing them. He is shutting down the prison. It is undecided yet just what will be done with them. They have been tortured and abused. They are "suspects" and therefore it is not certain that they are terrorists at all. They deserve a fair trial....nothing short of what we would want for our own people if they were being held. I'd be more concerned about Bin Laden's freedom. Just seems a bit odd that we do know that he was a part of 9/11 and he is still roaming about free....still relaying threats via the media and amazingly no one has been able to capture this old man.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
Only a handful of them have been waterboarded. There would be no need to waterboard 99.9% of them. Also, do you know that their living conditions are 100 times better than the living conditions of Iraqi POWs in Desert Storm? Yeah, the ones we were praised as the very picture of humanity for our treatment of them. Did you also know that most of what you lefties are demanding is actually against the Geneva Convention? So if he's not freeing them, what is the point of closing Gitmo?
@newtondak (3946)
• United States
24 Jan 09
Just what would their status be if they were released into the United States? Just what kind of Visa are they going to be issued that allows them to stay in the United States?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
Prs. Obama, for all his talk during the campaign, has no idea.
@newtondak (3946)
• United States
24 Jan 09
I'm so sure that we want them imprisoned here in the States - how wonderful it would be for their terrorist friends to attack us to free them!
@deejean06 (1952)
• United States
25 Feb 09
I don't want Gitmo closed and the detainees released. They are bad people and need to be kept behind bars away from everyone else. Those people who want them released have no idea what evil truly is and how it can affect them. You do have a good idea though I'm sure the response would be nimby....