Removing Children From Their Family Because of Their Names!!!!!!

United States
January 23, 2009 10:45pm CST
A couple just had their three kids removed from their care because of the names the kids had been given. The oldest boy was named Adolf Hitler, another was named Heinrich Himmler, and the third was Aryan Nation. How do you feel about this situation?
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@spalladino (17921)
• United States
24 Jan 09
I saw the news report on this and, while CPS said that they didn't remove the children from the home simply because of their names, I'm not necessarily buying it. I do feel very sorry for those kids. Although their parents said that they were not teaching them to hate others, the huge swastika hanging on the wall behind the father said otherwise. This is truly a sad case.
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• United States
24 Jan 09
I agree with the thought that it is sad, but I am a bit concerned that the government has the say in what we can name our children.
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@spalladino (17921)
• United States
24 Jan 09
They don't which is why CPS had to come up with another reason for removing the children from the home. I don't trust that agency but the family made an intentional stink about the birthday cake for Adolf Hitler so now they're getting the attention they wanted. I don't think these parents used good judgement on several levels but that doesn't give the government the right to take the kids...unless there is more to this family that we don't know yet.
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@Jellen (1852)
• United States
24 Jan 09
I agree. Parents hold so much power over the social adjustment of their children, and even the work potential for a child, based on the given name. This is an unfortunate situation for the family, but mostly for the children, who had no part in the selection of their names, and who couldn't change their names legally, until they no longer were minors.
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@anniepa (27451)
• United States
26 Jan 09
This is a really tough call for me. When I first heard the story of the birthday cake my first instinct was that these parents were guilty of child abuse just for the names they'd given their children but others here set me straight and made me realize we can't go down the slippery slope of allowing the government to tell us what we can or can not name our own kids. However, I still had misgivings and I must say I would guess that anyone who is bigoted and ignorant enough to name their kids the names this couple named theirs probably aren't fit parents. I understand the agency has said there were other reasons other than the names. Whatever the case, I'm sure they weren't being raised in a very health environment. Annie
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• United States
26 Jan 09
If the names cause a knee-jerk reaction in thinking adults, imagine the treatment they would get on the playgrounds and the schoolyard. It was cruel to give those names. And I am, like you sure there were other, more tangible reasons for removing the children.
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@anniepa (27451)
• United States
26 Jan 09
When the story first broke about the birthday cake some people had brought up other people who had given their children odd names, such as some of the names celebrities have given their babies like "Apple". Sure, some of these movie stars come up with unusual names which might draw some comments but while they may be strange and unique they're not offensive. To me that's a big difference. Annie
@laglen (19778)
• United States
31 Jan 09
I believe that there is more to the story. It wasn't just their names. There has been a lot of domestic violence calls to the house. Not to mention a lot of other issues. If it was just for their names, I would not agree with it.
• United States
31 Jan 09
I think that is the way most of us feel about the matter.
@rocketj1 (6960)
• United States
31 Jan 09
While I believe these are absolutely horrible names to burden a child with, I don't think the government needs to be taking children from their parents unless they are in danger of abuse. Maybe that was the case in this situation.
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• United States
31 Jan 09
There was a lot of dialog about there being other complaints, but we have not heard if there was any danger beyond the names.
@livewyre (2455)
25 Jan 09
These are the same people (presumably) who hit the headlines a few weeks ago when a store refused to make a personalised birthday cake with the name Adolf Hitler on it. When you consider the joy that a new-born child should bring into a household, I would consider it a potential form of abuse to name the child in suchan offensive way. If the parents cannot understand the offensive nature of the names they have given their children, then you have to question whether they can be fit parents at all if they struggle with such simple logic. Note that the children presumably were not removed because of their names as they had had them since birth...but for some other reason which is no doubt linked to the strange psychological disposition of either one or both parents. The same disposition which makes it acceptable in their minds to give their children the names of some of the most despised people in history. I have no problem with people having sincere views about a political stance, but once these manifest as a form of (mental) abuse, then you have to ask some serious questions about how these kids are being raised. I am guessing someone has been asking questions and found some pretty unsavory answers. I feel sure that these children may well have been brought up to hate non-Aryans and this is a more tangible form of mental abuse, although we should be careful about how we treat cases where parents have what we consider to be extreme views. How do I feel about the situation? I hope those involved have been able to build a good case and have some solid evidence, because just having an extreme view is not good grounds for taking children away. However I feel very sorry that these children have most likely been brought up to hate. There is no hope for the parents though - if you are prepared to do this to your kids, you are too far gone.
• United States
25 Jan 09
I doubt I could have expressed my thoughts about the situation as succinctly as you have here. I am frightened what will happen to those kids if their names are not changed. But I am also concerned what might happen to liberty if there is not more to the removal than the names.
@livewyre (2455)
25 Jan 09
It certainly is a tricky case in which you would have to be careful what precedents were set (ie. so as not to violate human rights and free-thinking). You can't simply outlaw the name Adolf for example, that would be crazy. I'm glad you understood what I was trying to say, thanks for the Best Answer...