If you disagree with the war in Iraq are you disrespecting our troops?

@dawnald (85135)
Shingle Springs, California
January 25, 2009 2:04pm CST
There was a video going around a few months ago. It was a soldier who basically took the position that if you expressed disagreement with the war, that you were being disrespectful of all the soldiers who had gone over there and served. Well I'm sorry but I think that this is a bunch of nonsense. I have the utmost respect for the people who love their country enough to be willing to give their life for it. I have no respect whatsoever for a commander-in-chief who sent those troops over there under false pretenses. The same guy who joined the national guard so that he could avoid combat. The fellow who loved his country so much that he took over 900 days of vacation while he was in office. The very same fellow who was photographed grinning and having a great time on the day after the worst incident in Iraq involving American troops. I have tremendous respect for the troops and none for the guy who sent them over there. What say you?
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
25 Jan 09
I do not believe in war, but I do not blame the soldiers and I do respect them for the job they do. We have none at this time that have chosen taht life but we have had and they were loved and respected as any other family member with a dangerous job.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
I don't believe in it either, except for self defense. That is my problem with this war. But I have a lot more respect for the guys who are willing to lay their lives down over there than for the rich guy who sent them there.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
26 Jan 09
Me too
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@mscott (1923)
• United States
25 Jan 09
I don't think it is disrespectful to disagree with the war. However, since they are there one shouldn't bad mouth them, withhold helping them if possible, or even blame them for doing the job they have to do. They are plenty of ways to respectfully disagree. Some people though carry it to far and actually holf the troops personally responsible when they are simply following the orders they are given.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
Agreed. It was a real shame, for example, the way the troops coming home from Vietnam were treated.
@sunnypub (2128)
• United States
25 Jan 09
I say, I agree with you 100%. I LOVE our troops, I RESPECT our troops, and I THANK our troops for doing what they have to do to help support and protect our Country. I don not, however agree with the war. I don't think we should have ever gone there. I know there are probably some soldiers who wonder what we are doing there too. I absolutely do not think disagreeing with a war shows any disrespect for soldiers. I have donated money, send cards, sent gifts etc. for the soldiers because I really do value them, but I still do not agree with the war. I am sorry to all soldiers who think that by disagreeing with the war, I show disrespect to them. I think our soldiers and the war are two different things. Soldiers are GREAT, the war is Awful.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
Perhaps if our commander in chief (former) had the same respect for the troops, they would have been sent over there with adequate armor, etc. But don't get me started...
@Humbug25 (12540)
27 Jan 09
Hey dawny I don't think I could ever have put it better myself!! Who could possibly agree with the war in Iraq or any war for that fact? Who would ever disrespect people that put their lives on the line for their country provided they are not killing innocent civilians? It wasn't America's or Britain's war in the first place and it's not right that they are out there but someone sent them out there and it wasn't me!! So don't tell me (not you dawny!) that I can't disagree with a war and that I disrespect the troops out there!! Na, I'm not having it!!!!!!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
27 Jan 09
Well obviously somebody thinks that or that video would never have been made. But twasn't me...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
27 Jan 09
Could be although I suspect that this person was recruited to do the video as part of somebody's political campaign.
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@Humbug25 (12540)
27 Jan 09
It definitely wasn't me either!!! I guess at the end of the day it is the opinion of one person but it is sad that they should think that way and I guess they have time to think out there. It can be a lonely old place out there in a middle of a war!
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
27 Jan 09
Hi dawn I am just stopping by to say hello. I don't think that I have the right to criticise the government of another nation as I am not a citizen of your country. Blessings
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
27 Jan 09
Hi and that's OK, I won't criticize your government either!
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Jan 09
I'm getting a hint...
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
27 Jan 09
No, you don't have to criticise my government , I do it well down here! LOL However I can say that I was so against Tony Blair sending in troops from the U.K. to this dreadful destructive war that has cost the lives of so many people. Perhas you get the gist of what my respnse would have been?
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@wheel416 (1019)
• Canada
2 Feb 09
Well, you have kids so you can probably relate to my first thought which when something along the lines of, " you can love the person, and hate the behavior! That is the absolute truth of the matter we may always love the people in our lives but we definitely do not always like the behavior that they exhibit. The exact same thing is true when it comes to supporting our troops. I can hate a war, or gov't in charge perpetuating that war and still love the troops that are fighting in the war. Its that same thing. It's absolutely ridiculous to suggest athat because you disagree with a method that you are disrespecting an individual. (yikes! I just snapped my headset in two, I guess now instead of the headset, I have a portable microphone! ) That's just my 2ยข worth.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 09
Well dang, you just disrespected every headset manufacturer all over the world!
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 09
Nope it sure shouldn't!
@wheel416 (1019)
• Canada
2 Feb 09
LMAO! Well, I guess they'll have to live with it, but to be honest it scared the crap outa me when it snapped... sitting at the computer shouldn't be this hazardous to my health.
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• United States
26 Jan 09
i agree completely! im against the war, but in no way blame or disrespect the troops! it wasnt THEIR choice..they are doing the job assigned to them by the commander-in-chief. The troops are doing a good job, i just want them HERE instead of course! like someone above has said..soldiers dont start wars...politicians/governments DO! Thank You to every member of our Armed Forces, in every place around the world, in every position...We LOVE you, We MISS you..and we want you HOME!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
and our hearts bleed for every single one of you who doesn't make it home and your families...
@wheel416 (1019)
• Canada
2 Feb 09
I'm going to add my voice here as well, even though I am from Canada and we're not in Iraq we are in Afghanistan. However that being said I don't care which war, you're fighting in, or even which country you are fighting for, as long as you are fighting for freedom and justice for all. And in that spirit I wish all of the best for every country and every troop that is working to make our world a better place, and to help those who do not have voices, or are unable to speak for themselves.
• United States
26 Jan 09
Not everybody in the military had good common sense. I am a Army wife of a Soldier that has been in for 19 yrs. My husband believes we have the right to disagree on war. I totally do not agree and my husband has no problem with war. Am I disrespectful to him I am not. Because I do support my husband. I do not have to support a senseless war. I do not really care what people think. MAybe that person should go tell all they children who lost their other parent due to war that if they disagree with war they are disrespectful. They earned the right to disagree. Just as I have earned the right to disagree on war. I have sacrificed my husband, my children have sacrificed their father. Nobody better not ever tell me I am disrespectful because I do not agree.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
I'm glad you missed that video then, because that's exactly what he was saying.
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
26 Jan 09
I thank God that we have ppl that are willing to put their lives on the line to protect us and keep us safe. I don't agree with war in general but I understand that sometimes it's necessary. As for the Commander in Chief that sent them over there, that was his decision as President. Since I've never been President it would be very hard for me to know what he was thinking, feeling or how he made the decisions he did. It's very easy for some to criticize when they've never been in the situation...no offense. What's that old saying...don't judge till you walk a mile in their shoes...very sane advice. [b]~~AT PEACE WITHIN~~ **STAND STRONG AND TRUST IN GOD**[/b]
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
If Mr. Bush had made an error in judgment, I'd agree with you, but I believe he flat out lied to us.
• United States
26 Jan 09
I'm sorry I think that is untrue. My husband is Active Duty Military and I support him in everything he does. But I do not agree with the war. Never have, never will. He knows that and still loves me. I support our troops because they fight for us and are protect millions of strangers and possibly will never come home to their loved ones. But I do not think that this war is right. I think that terrorism is wrong, but so far I do not feel the accomplishments are worth our men and women lives. And I respect those who disagree, but this is MY opinion.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
Terrorism is absolutely wrong, but imho the President never made a convincing case that Iraq was associated with the terrorists that we were after. Is your husband on duty over there? My thoughts and prayers are with you if he is...
• United States
26 Jan 09
Luckily he is home, but I agree there was never a solid argument as to whether or not Iraq had anything to do with it. Really good post.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
Hopefully he'll stay home...
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Jan 09
The great thing about a military within a democracy is that they go where they are sent. They do not make that choice themselves. I am very anti-the war in Iraq, but I am 100% behind the efforts of the military that are there. It is the politicians that need disrespecting, not the Army. That soldier needs a lesson in democracy.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
Maybe so!
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
27 Jan 09
I agree with you wholeheartedly. The men and women serving in Iraq and other places should be highly respected for what they do. Where would we be without them? It is the decision makers that ought to take responsibility.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
27 Jan 09
Yep, I don't think that's going to happen though.
• United States
26 Jan 09
I'm a vet (Air Force). My son served in Iraq as a Marine. I'm of the opinion that we should have deposed Saddam the first time we went in under Bush 41 when Saddam invaded Kuwait. If we had we would have prevented a lot of the mass murder he waged against his own people. I have no problem that we went in this time and deposed him and brought him to the justice of his people. I have no problem with 99.9% of the soldiers serving there (Abu Ghraib was a disgrace that I still cringe at) I do have a problem with the leadership decisions that have kept us there so long and believe it is time to get out. That being said, I never have a problem with anyone that disagrees with war whatever their reasons. War is a terrible thing. In an ideal world there could never be a war. Disagreeing with war is not the same as disrespecting the troops. I think that it's not only the right but the duty of people to speak out their disagreements whatever they are when it comes to war because war should always be our last resort and when we do go to war we should end it as quickly as we reasonably can for everyone's sake.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
It probably would have made things a whole lot easier if we had deposed him while we had a legitimate reason to be there the first time around.
• United States
26 Jan 09
Because we are a democratic society, it is us, American citizens that are responsible for allowing war to happen. It is us that chooses who we want to command our troops. In a simple world, we don't want war. In a complex world, we want war. If we lived in a simple world, we would all be cavemen leading a simple life. Yet, we do complex things to do something more simple. Why do we have cars? Because we don't feel like traveling for days or weeks to get to a location easily accessible by car in a matter of hours. So what do we do? We go to Iraq for oil. If we don't want war, we should use bicycles as our primary mode of transportation. However, we don't think like that. We want simplicity so we go through all the trouble for it. Why did we invent the remote control? Why did we invent the television? We had to work hard for many decades or centuries with innovative methods to create all these capabilities. So, for the soldier who thinks that anyone in disagreement with the war is being disrespectful to all soldiers who had gone over there and served is a total hypocrite. Why? I think you know the answer. Technological advancements and other advancements are hypocritical. Some say we are going to have robots to do our dishes and drive us to the mall but why go through all the troubles to do just that. Everyone that I've come across wants a peaceful, clean, nonviolent world. Yet the decisions that we make as a whole does not reflect that. I still struggle to understand the logic behind nuclear weapons. We want peace but we're going to create many WMD to achieve peace. I'm a little jumpy with my explanation and everything because I drank a triple strength rockstar. I don't disrespect the soldiers but I don't disrespect any humans that live on earth. I'm a citizen of earth so soldiers who think that killing other humans are something that must be done, you are missing the important thing. Most oppose war because of its high cost of human life and money. I don't like that. Every nation on earth have been created to ensure protection from another nation. In essence, protection from other humans. Hmm. Well, in the end we are all hypocrites. The best way to understand my view is to know what it would feel like if we were in the shoes of others. If everyone sees this view, it would not be a dog-eat-dog world out there. Thanks for reading. In a dogeatdog world, my views would be the same as dawnald!
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
I think that we were lied to and we fell for it... But as far as automobiles and oil, we could still have our cars, we just need to spend the money to develop alternate energy sources. The oil isn't going to last forever!
• Indonesia
25 Jan 09
I didn't like war, especially people make it happen
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
No, me either. Self defense is one thing but this wasn't self defense.
@anklesmash (1412)
25 Jan 09
i beleive you can support the troops without supporting the government
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
@dinos1 (204)
• Greece
25 Jan 09
The troops are just following orders, it is the politicians who make the wars. And of course, not wanting wars doesn't show at all disrespect to the troops.. This is just things that warmongers say to make you feel bad and agree with them.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Jan 09
Right and meanwhile they're sending our guys over there with insufficient armor, cutting their pay and their benefits, and not providing them with enough support when they get home!