Entrapment, can you force a person to do something they would not rather do?

United States
February 1, 2009 1:47pm CST
As you know people have lied to cause me harm. One event was on the record, a document was signed that would enable the police to remove me forcibly from my house. So the set up is that they are going to meet with my father who I thought had loved me and would not be a party to the ridiculous affront that my wife and mother would conjure up. Particularly my mother who always seemed to have a vindictive streak for some reason she would attack me. She used the tactics of a relationship of convenience a relationship with a false foundation, it was truly conditional love. My mother then taught my wife how to be controlling and manipulative and she learned her lessons well as my wife had a good foundation for such abuse as her father dispensed emotional abuse threatening physical violence on a regular basis. So now the police arrive at my front door and they have a meeting with my father and they work out a plan that he would stand in the living room and call me down stairs, I was sleeping as I had just fallen asleep from being up like 36 hours straight with little sleep in 72 hours. So I was really tired. There then was a knock at the front door and my father called upstairs that I needed to come down and answer the front door. As I get to the bottom of the stairs I notice that the front door is already open just a bit, about one inch. I identified the people on the other side of the door were police officers and I looked at my father standing there in the living room where I could see him as the officers asked me if I was me, they called me by my name and started to push the door open to come in. I knew the police had no right to enter my house with out my permission. I screamed "NO!" but to no avail, as I put my foot to the door to try and block them from entering into my house, it was too late the four officers were pushing hard against me knocking me backwards against the stairs. Am I a liar or was I trapped? Did the officers execute the documentation properly? Is my house my safe haven? Did I have a right to feel safe in my own house? Suppose the church leaders were involved in having this happen?
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4 responses
1 Feb 09
Hi TheGreatWhiteBuffalo, What I don't understand is, it is your house right? so what is your father doing there if you so much hate you and sides with your wife and what kind of a mother have you got to treat you like that? are they all against you for som sort of reason? and no the police cannot march into your home without a warrant unless your father let them in and he did, then you have to put in a complaint against them. Tamara
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• United States
2 Feb 09
First things first, my father and I at that time we did get along just fine, in fact I often told my wife that she should not come between us, (my father and I) I don't know why I had that fear, a kind of intuition... But it seems that my worst fears all of them are coming true. Now my worst fear is that something good could happen... (Knocks on wood) So as for my father being in my house, I thought of all people he would understand and be my ally instead he switched sides and became a helper in having me hurt, he set me up for the police to barge in. The police may have carried a warrant or in this case the form to have me transported for psychiatric evaluation commonly known as a 302 report, the thing is that they never showed me this document they barged in landing on top of me I was pushed backwards with three officers piling on top of me like I was carrying the ball in a football game. More like the old game of 'kill' - the guy with the football is the target for a mass pile on... I'm really thankful that none of the service revolvers went off... I'm really mad that they couldn't talk to me and give me a chance to talk to my father. With the pastors in my house, when they were there, I charged my father with keeping the front door closed and locked... Just a little more intuition... So I went up to bed the pastors left and I was called downstairs to the police on the other side of a barely opened door. Then when all was said and done my senior pastor came walking by on the sidewalk while there I sat in the police car all handcuffed and ready for transport. The whole thing was a set up... And why? It was all for a bunch of lies... As for the police, you know even if you file a complaint that doesn't guarantee you action. The police are being sued, the whole state is being sued for what happened to me. Every wrong step that I complained about got dismissed as though these people have complete immunity. Let's ask the Federal Judge if they should have immunity.
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@messageme (2821)
• United States
3 Feb 09
I hate to say it, but your whole situation is just really confusing to me. I don't know if it is because of the way you word it, which seems to be clear. or it's the fact that alot of details are really left out. You have never really explained what you have done to be put away or in this discussion what you did or supposably did to be arrested. There are a lot of holes and it is hard to fully understand anything. I feel bad for it, but I need more details to understand your situation to fully give my opinion. What started this all? What did your wife say or do to have you put away and for what reasons? Where are your children during this whole thing? I know you say your daughter is graduating this year, when does she turn 18? Will she come to you then or do you think she is also brainwashed by all this and what are they saying that everyone thinks you are such a horrible person, even your own flesh and blood family? If your wife, someone who is supose to love you till the end, is so against you, what started it? If it's too personal to explain I understand, but it is really hard for me to get a grasp on what is going on or how any one can help you or give you advice.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
4 Feb 09
WHitebuffalo, This does help some to understand some of what you went thru. and for Church members to be in on it is just terrrible grrrrrrrrrrr. all of this just from one accident of you having the right of way!.
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• United States
5 Feb 09
All because someone was interfering with my progress through an intersection and I became a witness to an accident that happened behind my truck, I became the bad guy to a lying detective and I was falsely accused of the speech of another individual who had cursed profanities at me on another occasion. Yep my family made me out to be the bad guy... My father may or might not have felt any guilt for his actions, I don't know, when I found my mother to be a liar and then she threatened to hit me and then suggested that better yet she would hit herself and tell the police that I hit her that is when I stopped talking to both my father and my mother. I stopped talking to my mother for obvious reasons if she can be so irrational there is not point in trying to talk sense into such a monster. When I went to visit my father about what my mother had done and was doing he didn't want to listen and he threatened to punch me, so I stopped talking to him. He came down with cancer in his mouth and instead of getting treated he decided it was time to end his life. My step mother tells everyone that my father had a terminal form of cancer, I talked to the doctors who told me that thought the cancer was not only treatable but also curable! That, and my step mother had lied about a lot of things so who do I believe, my step mother or the doctors?
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@messageme (2821)
• United States
4 Feb 09
Yes, it does, very much so. Thank you for taking the time to write all that. I am assuming your father felt guilty for betraying his son. That is too bad something like that had to happen. So this all started over an accident that happen? Is that correct? You just so happen to be in the wrong spot at the wrong time. I sure hope everything works out for the best for you.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
2 Feb 09
There is always nosey PArkers in all churches. adn your fatehr knowing how his wife is should have never told the police you were there. BUt then you tell this part about getting arreted for but not what they arrested you for.!
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• United States
4 Feb 09
Hi Lakota, I was not arrested, I was involuntarily committed and the issue started with a lying police officer who ranked to be a detective. This second incident as a result of that first incident is where I was treated by my local police as though I was a criminal and not a person being falsely accused by others including my wife and my mother. My mother has an interesting history with my father... They were divorced when I was around the age of 10 and my father then married the other monster in my life my step-mother. I'm going to reply to message me below a few more details...
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
4 Feb 09
thats plum awful . am hoing all works out for the best. I will read the other post .
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
26 Aug 09
Sorry to say but it really sounds like you can't trust either of your parents. I don't know the exact laws on serving an official document but I believe that unless your father actually lived in the house, he had no right to let them in. I'd say if you get the chance you need to bring it up to a judge or lawyer. BTW, you had every right to feel safe in your own home. [b]~~AT PEACE WITHIN~~ **STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS**[/b]
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• United States
29 Aug 09
Thanks Twoey68, I agree with you on the right to feel safe, and they did not have to make the woman who was my wife at the time feel unsafe to be with me... They that put the thoughts in her head have a lot to be accountable for. She had been given everything that she wanted, now it may have all only been temporary as the truth might remove some of that which has been her gain. Certainly I'm speaking of how Karma works in future events, even if nothing happens through the courts, there is a judge above all that will render a verdict for eternity.