Barack Obama to continue to allow anti-terror rendition

@bobmnu (8157)
United States
February 3, 2009 1:05am CST
It seems that the US will not torture but will allow others countries to do if for us. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4425135/Barack-Obama-to-allow-anti-terror-rendition-to-continue.html Remember what a terrible man President Bush was for doing this. I believe that a group in Germany even filed criminal charges against then Defense Sect Rumsfeld over this issue. It seem that it is now OK because President Obama is doing it. Where is the press outrage over this as they did with President Bush. Or is the Obama propaganda ministry covering for him again.
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@murderistic (2278)
• United States
3 Feb 09
Extraordinary rendition is absolutely unacceptable and US citizens need to make it clear that this is NOT a practice that we are going to tolerate. Holding someone without charge in a foreign prison that has absolutely nothing to do with the crime that the detainee has not even yet been charged for is an immense insult to human rights.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
3 Feb 09
If we are not allowed to go beyond the Army Field Manual, Name, Rank, and Serial Number, what do we do with these people? The Police are allowed to question suspects for hours, yell at them and use some of the harsh interrogation techniques that are banned to the CIA and trained Military integrators. The US has bent over backwards to protect prisoners and other detainees. We have provide medical treatment beyond what is required and provide a diet that is culturally correct, not the same or similar to our troops, as required by the Geneva Convention. You probably missed the article several years ago where US Service men were barred by the US Government from suing to get paid for work done in the Japanese War Industry during WWII, again as required by the Geneva Convention. The US government gives more protection and rights to the foreign prisoners than its own citizens. Have we demanded war crimes be filed against North Viet Nam for the treatment of our service men who were POW's, no , yet we file criminal charges against US Service men and women who have offended prisoners. Tell me what are we to do with these people - give them milk and cookies and say "Please tell us where you have hidden the Nuclear bomb that will kill millions of innocent civilians"?
• United States
6 Feb 09
They should be treated like human being, not like children as you have insinuated. Human beings should be entitled to freedom against arbitrary arrest and a fair trail. Torture is not a tactic that works, when being tortured, those who are terrorists typically don't say anything because they are so devoted to their cause, and those who aren't terrorists lie and damn their own fate by telling interrogators what they want to hear to make the torture stop. That is not a system of justice. That is a system of barbary.
• United States
7 Feb 09
Have you read any of the accounts of the men who were taken under rendition? I suggest you do so before trying to claim that no prisoners of the US were actually physically tortured, as you are saying. I would also really like to know your opinion on Abu Ghraib and how after that the military still did not take steps to stop outsourcing their interrogators who did not adhere to the military code of conduct.
@sid556 (30953)
• United States
3 Feb 09
He has only been in office a couple of weeks. I don't see how anyone could expect him to wipe out every mistake made by prior presidents over years of time. I am not sure where he stands here but I do understand why he would hesitate to undo completely all that is already in place to protect us against terrorism. I agree that this is wrong and something needs to change....they have to come up with another plan. He still has to figure out what to do with those detained in guatimala. He has a lot on his plate right now and just started. These descisions are not his alone....he is acting on advice from others. As for press outrage....no one jumped all over Bush like this his first couple of weeks in office.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
3 Feb 09
President Bush had the same thing dealing with Executive Orders of President Clinton to deal with. IF you remember it was the New York Times (NYT) that exposed the policy because the Public Had a Right to Know. Don't we have the same right to know now or have our rights CHANGED now that President Obama is President?
@sid556 (30953)
• United States
3 Feb 09
yes...we do or at least we should. I am not saying that this is right at all. I'm just saying that maybe we should just give him time to hopefully come up with a plan to make the changes in a way that is safe for all. our country is in such a mess right now....the changes we want and that should take place are not going to happen overnight. I am not saying you are wrong in your thoughts...just in all fairness that we should give him a chance before we jump his case. Obama was not my original voting choice either. I just happened to favor him over McCain. If McCain had won, I'd be the same.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
3 Feb 09
0bama Propaganda Ministry... I like that. It has a nice ring to it, and is entirely accurate... and it has that Totalitarian Regime flavor to it that we may all be introduced to real quick if we are not very careful. As to the content of this article, like many other things that the 0bamunist railed against Bush and his policies on during the campaign... the 0bamunist is now deciding that Bush was right after all. The 0bamunist has already stated on several occasions that the things he said during the campaign was just "campaign rhetoric"... in other words he lied through his teeth and rode the tide of anti-Bush sentiment all the way to the White House only to continue the very policies that he ran against. The only change that the 0bamunist represented is the marked increase in the royal screwing that the American taxpayer is about to receive.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
3 Feb 09
Well isn't that something. See, allowing these other countries to torture people for him gives Obama plausible deniability. Surely he couldn't have known that those people were tortured when transferred to other countries. I wouldn't expect Obama's minions to respond to this thread. They are great at burying their heads in the sand and ignoring any thread that casts their messiah in a negative light.