At a stop light, do you keep edging forward even when the light is red?

@mommyboo (13174)
United States
February 28, 2009 2:24pm CST
One of my friends laughed at me and said that I always do this. Part of the reason I do (unless it's a red light camera light) is to make sure I hit the sensors under the pavement that prompt a light to turn green. Also if you edge up behind someone, they are likely to move forward too to get you out of their personal space lol. Do you do this? Why or why not? I am often in a hurry, so I have an actual reason behind it, which is to waste as little time as possible sitting still.
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18 responses
• United States
2 Mar 09
I used to inch forward until a police officer friend of mine told me that it doesnt do any good because they are on timers and not sensors
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Apr 09
Some of them ARE on sensors, definitely not all of them but some of them. I'm specifically talking about dedicated left turn lanes which have the green arrow, not the ones where you have to yield to oncoming traffic for a left turn. With those, it doesn't matter, there is no sensor, and anybody not turning generally stays in the other lane because they don't want to be sitting behind the person waiting to turn left if they are going straight. However, I have noticed that if you're out driving in the middle of the night where there's little to NO traffic, I think the systems switch to sensor mode and not timed, otherwise how do you explain that the lights ahead of you will turn green in enough time to allow you to just keep driving if there are no cars coming to the intersections from other directions?
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
1 Mar 09
lol the sensors under the pavement. There are no sensors buried under the pavement. If a sensor went bad, they would have to dig up the road to fix it, or replace it. Traffic lights are on timers. Inching foward will not make them turn any faster.
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• United States
1 Mar 09
there are some on sensors. They just aren't under the road
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
1 Mar 09
There are sensors sometimes, they are not all on timers. I know that the sensors are under the pavement because I have seen the marks on there where they have been buried. If there were not, then how do you explain why a turn lane will turn green only when there are cars in that lane waiting to turn? I get really irritated when I am waiting in a turn lane and it doesn't turn green for me even though I've been there long enough to register I am sitting there.
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• United States
1 Mar 09
i really dont' think they are under the road but one way to find out is to ask the mayor or road department in your town
@sbeauty (5865)
• United States
1 Mar 09
I don't do this, but my husband does, and it absolutely drives me crazy. It probably wouldn't so much except that in doing it he's continually grinding the brakes. I never can figure out why we can't just sit there quietly until it's our turn. Of course, by the time it is our turn, his attention is usually elsewhere, and he doesn't move when he should anyway.
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• United States
1 Mar 09
That is a good point about wear and tear on the brake system... Better yet if we could pace the light and not have to stop at all...
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Apr 09
Sometimes you CAN pace the lights and not have to stop at all, there are times when I have managed to get all the way through town without having to stop at all. Of course this only happens on days when it doesn't MATTER when I arrive at my destination, or on days when I didn't even really HAVE a destination. It never occurs when I need to be somewhere in 20 minutes and I left in enough time to make it there in well... 20 minutes. In fact, those are the days when an accident happens 3 miles from my house 2 minutes before I left my house and it doesn't become apparent until I find out they detoured traffic one block from the accident and all 6152 people that live in town are in their cars being rerouted... ahead of me.
@kezabelle (2974)
1 Mar 09
My partner does it same as you to make sure he hits the sensors we were at some lights a few weeks back and some idiot was so far back they didnt hit the sensors after sitting there for a while we shouted at him to move forward and he STILL sat there we all drove round him in the end idiot!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Apr 09
SO SO horribly frustrating! i guess I have little patience for people who just want to block the way. I don't like people who sit there and impede traffic, drive UNDER the speed limit in the fast lane, stand in the way in the aisle at Target and don't even move politely to the side when they see your cart isn't going to fit past them.... people who lounge right in front of the display of produce you want to stop at for 2 seconds so you can grab a few tomatoes or whatever. I don't think I should have to honk, roll my window down and yell, ASK someone if they could scoot over 2 inches so I can squeeze past, etc. Are people really that dense? I know that I feel horrid if I accidentally blocked somebody and didn't notice.
• United States
1 Mar 09
I DO NOT do this because it causes accidents i have actually been hit several times by people that edge up when there is a red light i don't move i stay a car length from the person in front of me in case i do get hit besides i have a child now and don't want anything to happen to him. I hate those people that get to close to my car it makes me take my time to really go at the green light and actually as long as your bumper is at the cross walk line then your front tires will be on the sensors. At least in California thats how it works and lately they have been taking out sensors and have them timed lights. So it really doesn't make the lights change any faster just so you know. I have tried it out on several lights in my town and it doesn't make the red light turn faster by inching up. But i do enjoy the ones that are timed. And if you are in a hurry why don't you leave a few minutes early. I just don't want to hear a post soon from now saying you rear ended some one because you were in a rush.
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• United States
1 Mar 09
Worse than a four cylinder is a large shall we say a very large vehicle...
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
1 Mar 09
I have never rearended somebody... but I have been rearended 3 times lol. I think people are misunderstanding my original statement in my post, which is that I inch forward at lights to trip the sensors. That does not mean I ride up 2 inches from someone's bumper. I often leave space inbetween because I have to be kind about four bangers. I drive a V6 so I have little to no trouble getting started from 0 from a stop but cars with less power sometimes take FOREVER to start moving. LOL!
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• United States
8 Mar 09
No i understood what you meant in your original post. But you also stated that you would move closer to people to get THEM to move up to trip the sensor and thats what i was mainly replying to. =)
• United States
26 Apr 09
i dont really drive but i know my mom does. just the other day i saw her do it like 5 times. i think its because ppl want to go so muchthey really think the light will turn green soon.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
27 Apr 09
Well, I'm one of those people who when faced with not being able to do anything or being able to do SOMETHING, even if it's not really productive.... will do something over nothing. Inaction bugs me lol.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
28 Feb 09
I stay put. I don't think you get there any faster than me!
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• United States
1 Mar 09
No, don't do this, tailgating and crowding intersections causes accidents and slows traffic down, when I'm bringing my big ole truck through that intersection and you are now in my way and I have to stop and you have to back up and your time your trying to save just got rear-ended and now we need your information. My GOD... You don't understand, I get charged with your violation or the violation of another person who comes upon the scene because I'm the big bad truck driver that has to stop and now your ignorance turns into my loss of my church membership and marriage, and nearly costs me my job... Can't happen? Look at my story, Please, please if you have to stop please stop behind that dumb line that is marked already way to close to the intersection and might still cause me problems to keep the flow of traffic moving and not holding you or others up. Most importantly, if you want to save time, slow down before getting to the traffic light so you don't have to stop, the other suggestion is keeping more distance between you and the vehicle in front of you so you do not have to wait when the light does turn green. Think of the slinky the reaction times and if you could start moving with the first vehicle when you are the fifth vehicle as you all increase your speed together because there is enough distance you will all travel to your destinations faster. Closer and more crowded is part of our traffic problems. Don't be riding each others butts... For that we pay higher insurance premiums and consume more fuel along with spending more time waiting... It is also not good that the traffic lights change by surprise, brake tests are not good for large vehicles as we are often caught having to stop on a dime, got change? Our society really needs to be more vehicle friendly and it begins with the attitudes of all drivers and the governmental instruments and agencies, that create traffic patterns and flows.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Apr 09
Well, I definitely am careful with big rigs. My uncle used to drive long haul and I have friends who do currently. Those trucks cannot 'stop on a dime', in fact I have seen truck drivers get ticketed for barreling half into an intersection with a red light camera, knowing it can be unfair because they couldn't stop! Now people will say they CAN stop and that they know better but the heavier and bigger the truck, usually the longer it takes to start going and stop. I guess I need to explain that I only go just up to the stop line with any red light camera intersection, I am NOT interested in getting ticketed by a stupid automatic automated device because I happened to have my tire one centimeter past where they want me to be. The only places I feel the need to inch up for the sensors is at non-red light camera monitored intersections with a left turn lane sporting a green arrow that DOESNT turn green if your car doesn't trip a sensor, telling the system that you're sitting there.
@Myrrdin (3599)
• Canada
24 Apr 09
NOrmally I only edge forward when the other light turns yellow, however I have been known to edge forward to make sure I am on the sensor as well.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Apr 09
I really should have explained originally that the sensor thing was only related to certain things, ie left turn dedicated intersections or late at night when the lights swap from timed to sensor operated.... I have an intersection near me that I no longer drive through and instead avoid by driving through a section of the mall parking lot because sometimes despite being right on the stop line and solidly ON the sensors, this frigging light still sometimes does NOT turn green and I have to sit through 2 or more cycles of it. The intersection is not busy, I do not understand it. I considered calling the city transpo dept about it and asking whether they could check it for malfunction but I decided I'd rather just avoid it instead of getting steamed that it didn't operate right.
@derek_a (10874)
1 Mar 09
I used to do this, but I realized that in reality, I am not saving any time and probably using up more fuel than I need, so when I am driving, I quit being in a hurry and drive more moderately. And my car is returning a much better mileage per gallon now. . Derek
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• United States
1 Mar 09
Hi Derek, After a conversation with me, I could give you a few more pointers as how to save fuel if you want to consider starting and stopping with the advantage of pacing but also giving clear room for larger vehicles. So much to consider... A good driver knows how to get the most out of his machine. Using all of our senses especially looking deeply for all that we can see.
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@Amberina (1541)
• United States
1 Mar 09
My car does it actually I will have my foot on the breaks and pretty soon my car will inch forward a little and I have to let off the break an push it down again and then it will stop doing that. I think my master cylinder needs checked but I do have breaks when I have to slam them on when someone is turning in front of me and not using their turn signal.
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@bombshell (11256)
• Germany
1 Mar 09
when i do that my little girl was upset because i did not follow the rules because in kindergarten they have to learn it and mommy is doing opposite to it.its ashamed that my daughter is telling me things like that.
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@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
28 Feb 09
I'm not a hurry person. That is why I take everything slowly. Maybe it has to do something about my previous accident. Then I learned how to have patience and do my pace in a slow manner. Taken from the saying slowly but surely.
• Philippines
25 Apr 09
ahmm.. not :)... because of the fact that this is not applicable in the Philippines with all the "sensors" thing.. hehe.. and i think it is always good to follow traffic rule for order and discipline. =)
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
26 Apr 09
Maybe we only have this issue in the US, possibly Canada, maybe Europe. I don't know. It seems to be a problem only dealing with dedicated left turn lanes with the green arrows. Maybe someday our transpo dept will come up with a better way of rigging up these things so people don't have to be concerned about sensors.
• United States
27 Apr 09
No, I just sit there and wait. But, stopping for street lights after midnight is a precious waste of time.
@UK_Shree (3603)
27 Apr 09
Um not sure really. Might do it by accident every now and again but otherwise I tend to just wait. The traffic lights in the UK do not have the sensors that you speak of but they do sound quite clever!
@Myrrdin (3599)
• Canada
27 Apr 09
Actually induction loop sensors are common in the UK as well. From what I understand they aren't quite as common as in North America, but they are around.
• United States
28 Feb 09
I've been in the car when my granpa does it, and i never knew why until maybe a week ago! lol But me, no.
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• United States
1 Mar 09
hahahahahaha when im bored i do it for the same exact reason as you. i also hit he brakes hard when im bored and my friend jasons in the car, because hr use to do that whrn we were in school together, we called it the columbian stop, cause hes columbian.