Marital arguments, please help

@mrdos910 (455)
United States
March 1, 2009 8:52pm CST
My wife and I have been married for 10 years and every day there is a fight, arguing over everything it seems like, over everything from kids to money and everything in between. Every day I try so hard to keep peace in the family, but my wife feels like she is "the boss" and know one tells her what to do. Even if we discuss something such as the kids tv watching and video game limits and agree, the moment I enforce those limits and the kids start behaviors, she tells me to back off. She always tells me that I get "satisfied" by arguing, which is false. There are many nights I do not sleep afterwards. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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18 responses
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
2 Mar 09
When you're stuck in a situation that you've tried to resolved and find that you're getting nowhere there are only two options. Either leave and let the facts of life slap your wife in the face or go to counseling. If she refuses to go, go by yourself so that you can learn some techniques of dealing with her in a more productive way. Remember, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result. Also, if your wife is in her 40's, her attitude and moods may be hormonal. She should be checked out by her doctor. Good luck.
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• United States
2 Mar 09
Why is it that people are crazy enough to believe that just because a woman is 40 she's in menopause or hormonal? (Thinks a Cosby episode is in need here).
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
2 Mar 09
Because I'm 54 and have friends who went through some pretty severe personality changes which turned out to be physical in nature. I suggested many things as you saw. This woman is angry and aggressive. There's a reason why...either emotional or physical...so there's no harm in considering both.
@rsa101 (37932)
• Philippines
2 Mar 09
Well that's really hard... I think what you should do about this things is to let your tempers down first before you are to impose something. I feel that both of you do not want to be over each other. Well you can be but you have to talk which is you territory and which is hers. Agree on something like when its the kids she is the one to handle things and anything you want to happen/do with the kids it should pass through her and when it comes to money matter you are the one to decide on it and not hers. I think by separating and defining what your role is to the family would lessen the who's the boss kind of thinking. You should talk this over a calm and peaceful manner.
@tonniek02 (457)
• United States
2 Mar 09
I have a husband that is the same way. He is alway trying to pick a fight. I don't even argue with him, I just walk away. I don't like to fighting. As long as I know whats right, that is all that matters to me. We no longer have children at home they are all on there own now. So that is something we don't argue about. He never even gives me a chance to say what I mean. He takes everything I say the wrong way. So I just don't say anything. Sometime, the only way to get through is to write a letter. But read it back to yourself befor you leave it for her. Make sure it is saying just what you want it to say. And make sure it can't be taken differently. If they want to know why you left them a letter? Then tell them that is the only way you can express your feeling with out fighting over triveal things. Life is to short to fight over triveal matters. Let her know a marriage is a team, it work when two work together. And love has is mutual respect
@mrdos910 (455)
• United States
3 Mar 09
Your idea i have done many times over and over again. Many times I feel like this is the only way I can communicate with her. I have told her repeatedly that i want to work things out. I think for one she is not content in what she has, seems like she always wants more kids, bigger house, new cars. I have learned to thank God for what He has given to me.
@sandymay48 (2030)
• Canada
2 Mar 09
Hello mrdos910...Usually when a marriage comes to the point where there is constant arguments, it has come to a point where one or the other is taking the other for granted and forgetting why you are together in the first place. Life has become a chore and battleground, rather than something to be enjoyed with someone we love. It also certainly doesnt do the children any good. We all know that in parenting, we must be consistant and stand together in decisions, parenting methods etc. To disagree in front of the kids, gives them the opportunity to play one parent against the other. The goal is to stop the fighting and not create an army of who is on whose side at what time. I feel both of you need some serious alone talk time together to see where each of you stand. Discuss what brought you together in the first place, where you stand now with your feelings, and where you want to be in the future. There should be no boss when it comes to parenting or relationships. Children need to respect both parents equally as do the partners involved need to respect one another as well. If she just wont listen, or you feel you are at a stalemate and you want to work it out, I would strongly suggest a marriage mediator. A good friend may be helpful but often if its your friend, they may tend to be biased. Good luck and hope everything works out or you can at least come to an adult mutual agreement
@mrdos910 (455)
• United States
3 Mar 09
I can honestly agree with your comments, this is so close to my day to day reations at home.
• Canada
3 Mar 09
Yes , this happens a lot..its very common..hope everything works out for you..all the best to you
• United States
2 Mar 09
It is not easy when you are raising kids. Some day the kids will be grown no matter what goes on now and then you will just be looking at each other if you can make it through. Do you guys ever get out together without the kids. I like it that my husband will just randomly take me out for lunch when possible. There is an interesting Christian ministry on marriage that has helped me and others in my family. That is Jimmy & Karen Evans. We have really learned some coping skills. He has some interesting pointers on relationships. I think one of his books is "Love on the Rock." You can find him on the web at www.marriagetoday.org You can listen to his program for free from this site. I have seen him in person a couple of times and learned a lot. Also, I really got a lot out of the movie "Fireproof" that just came out. Maybe a behavior psychologist would help, I think that is what it is called. Be careful when picking out a counselor, some of the best can be some of the worst. I've had 30 years at that. Things turned around when I finally realized that my husband really did love me. That kind of goes back to Fireproof and Jimmy & Karen Evans. I try to take some time every day just saying my list of what I love about my husband, that really works when I am frustrated. Dwell on what you love, not on what bugs you about your mate. Remember that as we get older it is not just women who have hormone changes. A man can get depressed, etc. also from hormone changes. All of these are random ideas, only you know what works or seems right to you. There is no one answer as one size does not fit all.
@mrdos910 (455)
• United States
3 Mar 09
I honestly feel like all this with her has affected me in I believe I suffer from depression, some of which is hereditary I am sure, some from the constant hostile environment. I will check on that person you mentioned.
• United States
3 Mar 09
Do not lose heart, almost every marriage goes through this. What you are experiencing is not unusual. My husband felt like you do when we had problems. Neither of us knew how to fix it. You may be very encouraged by Jimmy Evans. He is very honest. He and his wife went through much of what you describe. You may not believe this but your wife probably feels as bad as you do. Many times the walls go up and the anger hides the hurt. If there was a way into this, there most certainly is a way out to restoration of your relationship and happiness more than you had in the beginning.
@dismalgrin (2604)
• United States
2 Mar 09
What would happen if you let her 'be the boss'? Because if you think this is how she feels, to me, it signifies that in some way this is how you feel about yourself as well. You can't both be 'the boss' and you really should find a way to put your marriage first before you deal with the kids. Kids stuff is about picking your battles wisely and you probably are the one wanting to enforce those limits, am I right? But from a mom's point of view that could be the only way she feels she can get anything done around the house! So, if the arguing is really getting to you put a plug in it. It has to stop somewhere and you have obviously regonized it as a problem because you posted about it here. So, my suggestion is that you be the one to make the effort not to fight. You go out of your way to let her know that you love her, even if you aren't feeling it so much right now... you can make yourself love her by showing her how much you do. Take her out, even if it's just to the local park to feed the ducks or something. Geeze, put the romance out there and don't worry about the stuff at home for now. That stuff tends to work itself out on it's own when two people really care about eachother and are trying to show eachother how much they love eachother. When your and her eyes start to glaze over in hearts then you know you are on the right track. LoL! Good luck!
@mrdos910 (455)
• United States
3 Mar 09
I have tried your ideas and if things get really heated I retire myself to my relaxation room and let her deal with the kids. But the problem is when we agree on plans of action for dealing with the kids, or even our own problems, I think she "reconsiders" when resistance is present. I do not usually try to initiate a fight, but often I reply to a statement, not in a demeaning manner, she thinks I am trying to start a fight. I honestly think she is looking for a spouse who will do whatever she says, good or bad.
@mrdos910 (455)
• United States
3 Mar 09
I think one of the problems is we both work with the mentally retarded population in a group home setting, same home, she is the home manager and I am direct care staff, I have been trying to transfer to a different home, but nothing is available right now.
• United States
3 Mar 09
Sometimes we act a certain way in relationships because that is the example we were brought up to believe is normal. Or it's a about face from what we were raised in because we think it is so wrong. So, if her mother is kind of 'the boss' in the relationship she might think that is normal. But, if her father is so bossy he is to the point of tyrantical she may be trying to get far away from it. If she is walking all over you in ALL decisions, that is not right. And if she is turning down suggestions to go to marital counsiling that means that she knows she has a problem, but doesn't want to deal with it, or doesn't want to be told she has a problem. From a woman's perspective I can say that sometimes it feels like we should be the only one making the at home decisions when the man is gone all day. For him to come home and suddenly take interest in what he has not been around to be apart of during the day. (I don't know if your wife is a stay at home wife... so if she isn't then this is probably not the issue.)and want to have a say so in it can feel threatoning. But, I'm sorry, I still stand by my earlier post... it's not an overnight thing that you just walk away from an argument or just say 'Okay, honey, let's try it the way you say this time' that it's going to blow her away and all will be bliss. I've watched my parents go through a 25 year marriage where my father was the bossy one and would NEVER let my mom have a say. She finally decided it wasn't worth it and left. I hate to see that happen. I wish my dad could have let her be right sometimes. But, it never really did happen. So, I don't know. I still wish you lots of luck!
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
3 Mar 09
I am yet to find an argument free marriage. I think argument is part of the contents in a healthy marriage if it is done within limits. A couple may argue even to the most trivial matters which should not erupt to a heated argument but if both are not willing to compromise it can become a big issue which may hurt both parties concerned and it will be days of silence and sulky faces which if not treated early might eventually shake the foundation of a marriage. The only solution to this ever bickering affairs in the home front is both must not erupt at the same time. Let one do the most talking and the other just become a spectator. If you do that the person who talk most will soon find that her bullet did not hit the bullseye as no one is retaliating to her argument. She find herself arguing to the four walls of the house without being counter attacked. She'll soon realize that she is the troublemaker after listening to her own voice. The point to make here is let her talk until her mouth foam and you keep your silence as it takes two to make an argument.
@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
3 Mar 09
dang sound like me and my wife. sorry but you do but i think you guys need some major help. you both got to meet half way somewhere on things. and both should learn not just listen but learn when to talk. and learn no matter what feelings are never wrong. i know with my wife and i we were raised so different but two different kind of family. where we used to get our butts whip and her parents talked like the brandy bunch. when it came to our kids, i was the bad guy because i did all the displine and punshiments to the kids. i was and still am a true beliver in tough love. but here one thing you guys can try to do. get two notebooks. go in two different rooms, and write what you like or love about each other, and what you don't like about each other. but i think you guys should really seek counsleing if you want to stay together. because this has a big effic on the kids as well. best of luck. and one thing i learn never go to bed mad at each other or leave one another mad. and without saying i love you
@srganesh (6340)
• India
2 Mar 09
I think you both shall come into a conclusion to separate your area of dominance and leave the rest to the other.It should be a deal to not to interfere in other's conclusions.And the month end shall be a day to sit around and express your views on the decisions.I think this will lessen your tensions.Cheers!
@mrdos910 (455)
• United States
3 Mar 09
I do not like the idea of dominace, rather sharing in the decisions, I think that she was raised that her mom basically treated her husband bad alot, degrading in talk. Her own sister has told me this. I feel like if we both agree on a plan of action in life, either with kids, work, etc., we should follow through, both partners on the same page. But I feel like, for instance, if the kids are acting up and we agreed no games for that behavior, I feel like I could tell the kids "no games" or her. But I notice that she often gives in at the slightest resistance.
• United States
2 Mar 09
This is a tough one. It's difficult when a set pattern has been set up or engrained for a long period of time. People are not likely to change, or will have difficulty with change. I'd suggest perhaps finding a good marital counselor or if you are in church, perhaps speaking with your spiritual leader about it. They may be able to provide a mediation to allow both of you to present your point of view and work through these issues. Namaste-Anora
@mrdos910 (455)
• United States
2 Mar 09
I had mentioned counseling, but she has not really showed any interest
• China
3 Mar 09
MARITAL ARGUMENTS IS SURVIED IN MANY FAMILIES,AND FROM THE SURVEYs.most of the families is taken charged by the women,women pay much hearts for the whole family,for example ,the eat ,the clothes,the children,everything she will considerate it,so she palyes the role as "boss",from the side ,we should thanks women,another side is that we may go wrong way for the busy things the woemn needs to do,at the time ,we should forgive and lead the women to find the right way to do it,let's all work together,and pay more atten to the families,
• India
3 Mar 09
Hey ,dont worry ,its life and believe me ur wife loves u a lot.Iam married for 13 years and me and my husband too fight very often but the only thing that reduced our fights or arguments is to be calm ,my hubby is shorttempered ,and when i too lose my temper the fight begins so dear be calm and see the fight will resolve automatically.THE MAIN THING :NEVER TRY TO CHANGE ANYONE ,LOVE THEM AS THEY ARE AND IF U LOVE HER EXPRESS IT.MAKE HER FEEL THAT HOW MUCH U LOVE HER AND TRUST ME MY FRND IT WILL HELP U A LOT
@gdesjardin (1918)
• United States
3 Mar 09
Yes, this is a difficult one. I have been married for 12 years, and this is both my husband's and I second marriage. Communication is the key. I can't stress enough to communicate. I am a very honest and open person, however, my husband holds things in. I will say that our biggest arguments are over the kids. We discuss limitation on the kids, and we write it down on paper. This has been the only thing that works for us. Sometimes when someone sees something on paper, it is harder to back down later on. I will tell you that even when my kids are acting up and need to be punished...I am still their mother, and I do have tendancy to back down and let them win. Good luck!
@lucas16 (98)
• Philippines
3 Mar 09
you should guys talked it over .... ihave same case but i make sure that we talks things out first.
• United States
2 Mar 09
I don't know how to lived like that over in 10 yrs there is fighting and arguing everyday. I was raised with a family and didn't saw my parents having arguing everyday or fighting but there was a certain time that they have argue co`z that was a normal to the married life i guess. I never heard also that my mother so much complaining about money reason to my father since my father is really responsible husband and father to us. So, I was really hoping and praying that wish I can find someone like my father and i be like my mother even she has a lots of dreams she will be contented what we have in family. The prayer was answered and i found a man not like be my father but he is responsible husband to me and father ( to his kids ) , in almost 2 years we been married we haven't much argue about money and being bossy to each other co`z we both agree together we are both equal together. I try to be contented what life we have even yes I have a lots of dreams for us just wait the right time when will be come. As of now stay happy and contented. I guess you both agree together no one will bossy at home and try to contented to life you have there. And for kids matter supposed you both agree together so no more argue or fighting its better to live a home with harmony and love.
@dhaumya (106)
• India
2 Mar 09
My suggestion is that you take a break from your work and discuss the situation frankly with your wife first before going to any marriage councilor. Try to analyze yourself and your wife and try to find out the reasons for her changed behavior. If you are able to do it, please please discuss with her and I am sure you will get a solution by the grace of God!
• South Africa
2 Mar 09
take her out on a vacation ,where you can talk about this fighting with no kids around
• India
2 Mar 09
hai friend, i m not of ur age but i have seen such type of incidents for long times so I WANNA TELL U THAT U MUST KEEP QUIET WHENEVER SHE IS IN ANGER WHEN SHE COOL DOWN KINDLY TELL HER FAULT,U HAVE SEEN THERE IS NO SOLUTION IN COUNTER ARGUMENT AND ANGER,I FELT ALWAYS THAT ONLY WEAPON WHICH CAN CONTROL A WOMAN IS "LOVE"AND"CARE".SO I SUGGEST U THAT TO SAVE UR FAMILY AND A BETTER LIFE KINDLY LEAVE UR COMMON HUMAN QUALITIES AND STAY CALM AND GIVE HER MAXIMUM AFFECTION FOR HER ANY TYPE OF BEHAVIOUR. I WILL PRAY FOR U THAT HE WILL MAKE U MORE PATIENT SO THAT U CAN BEAR HER ANGER . GOD BLESS U AND UR FAMILY.